that is your opinion
You can't take it out of context mate - this isn't my outlook on life. You can either burry your head in the sand and distract yourself with all the instant short lived highs in life like, beer, films, games yadda yadda, which you can spend a whole life time doing. Or, you can wake up and open your eyes and ask yourself what is it worth? What is really important? Asking yourself qestions like that will probably lead to even more questions, but asking questions like this will force you to face up to a lot of things, and dare say effect almost every aspect of your life - takes guts, people don't like change and you will be taking yourself out of the norm, people will judge you just like the science posse are judging the other half in this thread! You have to have thick skin and be a strong enough person to take it.
Now, I'm obviously no enlightened being, but I think enlightenment is the ultimate anyone can acheive in life and I personally strive to get closer to it every day.
One thing I have learned (and try to remember) is that you can't tell people about the things I have sort my self and learned and expect people to take it under their wing. For you, or anyone else to understand it you have to want to understand it and activly seek it out for yourself or the senitiments carry absolutly no value.
You can't expect me to explain 10 years of a way of life to, no offence, really, your average working class hero with stuborn, deep rooted opinions which won't move for anyone.. on a web forum - it isn't going to happen, you're not going to understand. The best thing you can do is accept that and let it go instead of trying to box it off and put a label on it. Like Rich and probably others, are totally confussed about where I'm coming from. But that isn't my problem, that's their problem for holding onto the stereotypes and ignorance on the subject they do. Don't burden it on me.
I get the impression that the science part of this argument thinks they have the upper hand, that says more about the scientific side of the argument than anything else. The spiritual side of the argument would say go ahead, if you feel like you need to tally this as a win, then knock yourself out - it's just another short lived small high. Days later the same people will be looking for another debate they can claim a victory to to make them feel whole again.
If David wants to close the thread then he has every right because it has now gone into religion, and debates like this have gone very wrong in the past, and were even banned from being discussed. And again, with the constructive comments like those from BigBadMan and v14 it could have decended long ago, but it's been pretty civil all in all.
If David closes the post then it won't look badly him because there is now nowhere else the argument can go, not becasue he is trying to chasdise the otherside of the argument. But again, if that is how you want to see it becasue it makes you feel like you have provoked a reaction that somehow makes a martar out of your argument... then go ahead, lol.
Anyway, I got invited to an anti war demo today, but sacked it off... desided to go to the pro peace rally instead
No one asked you to join this thread. I've made no assumptions about you but it seems you have about me. How hypocritical are you?? i've just asked you some questions mainly, which you just avoid. Seems like you got a fair way to go on your enlightenment path mate.
Another massive assumption. Do you always see the worst in people?
You can't take it out of context mate - this isn't my outlook on life. You can either burry your head in the sand and distract yourself with all the instant short lived highs in life like, beer, films, games yadda yadda, which you can spend a whole life time doing. Or, you can wake up and open your eyes and ask yourself what is it worth? What is really important? Asking yourself qestions like that will probably lead to even more questions, but asking questions like this will force you to face up to a lot of things, and dare say effect almost every aspect of your life - takes guts, people don't like change and you will be taking yourself out of the norm, people will judge you just like the science posse are judging the other half in this thread! You have to have thick skin and be a strong enough person to take it.
Now, I'm obviously no enlightened being, but I think enlightenment is the ultimate anyone can acheive in life and I personally strive to get closer to it every day.
One thing I have learned (and try to remember) is that you can't tell people about the things I have sort my self and learned and expect people to take it under their wing. For you, or anyone else to understand it you have to want to understand it and activly seek it out for yourself or the senitiments carry absolutly no value.
You can't expect me to explain 10 years of a way of life to, no offence, really, your average working class hero with stuborn, deep rooted opinions which won't move for anyone.. on a web forum - it isn't going to happen, you're not going to understand. The best thing you can do is accept that and let it go instead of trying to box it off and put a label on it. Like Rich and probably others, are totally confussed about where I'm coming from. But that isn't my problem, that's their problem for holding onto the stereotypes and ignorance on the subject they do. Don't burden it on me.
I get the impression that the science part of this argument thinks they have the upper hand, that says more about the scientific side of the argument than anything else. The spiritual side of the argument would say go ahead, if you feel like you need to tally this as a win, then knock yourself out - it's just another short lived small high. Days later the same people will be looking for another debate they can claim a victory to to make them feel whole again.
If David wants to close the thread then he has every right because it has now gone into religion, and debates like this have gone very wrong in the past, and were even banned from being discussed. And again, with the constructive comments like those from BigBadMan and v14 it could have decended long ago, but it's been pretty civil all in all.
If David closes the post then it won't look badly him because there is now nowhere else the argument can go, not becasue he is trying to chasdise the otherside of the argument. But again, if that is how you want to see it becasue it makes you feel like you have provoked a reaction that somehow makes a martar out of your argument... then go ahead, lol.
Anyway, I got invited to an anti war demo today, but sacked it off... desided to go to the pro peace rally instead
