I'll have a quick try on a 5402, BRB.....
Edit: Scan didn't find the HD channels.
Edit: Scan didn't find the HD channels.
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Hi trevortron et al,
It all depends whether the cndf file (channel list) in question was created by someone else on another receiver... in which case you wouldn't really know how it had been compiled... the file could have been generated completely normally via standard scans/downloads to the receiver... or it could have been a mixture of both standard scans/downloads to the receiver plus some manually configured/added channels... you can usually find out by doing the following...
Open the cndf file in NDFEdit 1.69
Expand the transponder list on any satellite position
Example
Intelsat 907 at 27.5°W (relevant to this thread)
Expand transponder 11.495 (V) 44100 (BBC/UK TV Package)
Click on each individual channel in the list and then look on the right-hand side of the editor to see which of the following three 'Attributes' are ticked/checked...
Don't update service ID
Don't update name
Don't update video/audio PIDs
If some of the channels have been configured/added manually then all three of the 'Attributes' above will be ticked... whereas if the channels have been generated completely normally via standard scans/downloads from the transponder/frequency... then the only 'Attribute' ticked/checked will be Don't update name
However... when the cndf file (channel list) had been downloaded to your receiver... and you then re-scanned the transponder/frequency... the 'Attributes' Don't update service ID / Don't update video/audio PIDs (usually an indication of manually configured/added channels) would both have reverted back to being unchecked/unticked... thus allowing the channels to update Service ID and Video/Audio PIDs...
I hope this helps...
Best Wishes,
Zorch
It all depends whether the cndf file (channel list) in question was created by someone else on another receiver... in which case you wouldn't really know how it had been compiled... the file could have been generated completely normally via standard scans/downloads to the receiver... or it could have been a mixture of both standard scans/downloads to the receiver plus some manually configured/added channels... you can usually find out by doing the following...
Open the cndf file in NDFEdit 1.69
Expand the transponder list on any satellite position
Example
Intelsat 907 at 27.5°W (relevant to this thread)
Expand transponder 11.495 (V) 44100 (BBC/UK TV Package)
Click on each individual channel in the list and then look on the right-hand side of the editor to see which of the following three 'Attributes' are ticked/checked...
Don't update service ID
Don't update name
Don't update video/audio PIDs
If some of the channels have been configured/added manually then all three of the 'Attributes' above will be ticked... whereas if the channels have been generated completely normally via standard scans/downloads from the transponder/frequency... then the only 'Attribute' ticked/checked will be Don't update name
However... when the cndf file (channel list) had been downloaded to your receiver... and you then re-scanned the transponder/frequency... the 'Attributes' Don't update service ID / Don't update video/audio PIDs (usually an indication of manually configured/added channels) would both have reverted back to being unchecked/unticked... thus allowing the channels to update Service ID and Video/Audio PIDs...
I hope this helps...
Best Wishes,
Zorch
inthemix1010
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this is a great thread as I live in spain and I guess with another dish ( pointed to 27.5 w) I could pick up bbc when I switches over to spot beem.
mdt
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yes you can although they are encrypted... if you are looking into it a TM5402HD or similar would be a good choice over a E2 linux stb,regards mdt
What part of Spain mate? Some parts in t'north are still picking up 2F on reasonably sized dishes, so might be an idea to hold off throwing €€€ at it until you are sure you are out of fooprint.
inthemix1010
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hi near Malaga very south
Looks like this may well be of interest then. I gather you, like us here can't get a sniff of 2F, all the signs are 2E will be much the same.
dantis
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Morning all,
I set up my TM5402 HD M2 yesterday and eventually got all the main channels working okay, the SD channels can be edited using the menu to enter the VPIDs and APIDs etc but the HD channels have to be manually added to change the video type to H264 and audio type to MPEG4.
I have also added the radio stations, you just need to add the APIDs.
I have tried a few recordings on HD (including two channels at once) with a 320GB Toshiba external USB powered drive and all seems okay.
However, I have a few questions:
a) Is it possible to get rid of the infernal PIN request every time you go into the menu? So, so annoying!
b) How do I change the video type to H264 and audio type to MPEG4 using the Clarke or NDF editors?
c) I used the Clarke channel editor to update my channel list, when I uploaded it to the box I had to go into every channel and select the BI$$ key again for each one as it was showing as 'off'. Is there a way of avoiding this?
Anyway, apart from that all seems working fine.
I set up my TM5402 HD M2 yesterday and eventually got all the main channels working okay, the SD channels can be edited using the menu to enter the VPIDs and APIDs etc but the HD channels have to be manually added to change the video type to H264 and audio type to MPEG4.
I have also added the radio stations, you just need to add the APIDs.
I have tried a few recordings on HD (including two channels at once) with a 320GB Toshiba external USB powered drive and all seems okay.
However, I have a few questions:
a) Is it possible to get rid of the infernal PIN request every time you go into the menu? So, so annoying!
b) How do I change the video type to H264 and audio type to MPEG4 using the Clarke or NDF editors?
c) I used the Clarke channel editor to update my channel list, when I uploaded it to the box I had to go into every channel and select the BI$$ key again for each one as it was showing as 'off'. Is there a way of avoiding this?
Anyway, apart from that all seems working fine.
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I have answered questions a & b but not sure about c yet...
a) Menu > System Settings > Password Setting > Enter PIN 0-0-0-0 > Set Receiver Lock to 'OFF' > Set Remote/Ch/Install Lock to 'OFF' > Set Channel Lock Confirm to 'OFF' > Set Age Limit to 'FREE' > Press Exit > Settings were changed. Do you want to save? > Select Yes & Press OK
b) What I would have done is... download all the channels as normal from transponder 11.495 V 44100 ...then delete all the HD channels like this...
Menu > Edit Channels > Delete Channels > Highlight & Press OK on every HD channel > X appears on the selected channel numbers > Press Exit > Warning !! Do you want to delete? > Select Yes & Press OK > Saving... Please Wait !!
Then add each individual HD channel back into the channel line up like this...
Select Add Channels > Select Transponder > Enter Channel Name > Enter Video PID > Enter Audio PID > Enter PCR PID > Select Video Type H.264 > Select Audio Type MPEG4 > Press Yellow to Save
NB
PCR PID ~ enter the same value as the Video PID
Then direct each of the newly added HD channels to use the same BI$$ Key
I hope this helps...
Best Wishes,
Zorch
I have answered questions a & b but not sure about c yet...
a) Menu > System Settings > Password Setting > Enter PIN 0-0-0-0 > Set Receiver Lock to 'OFF' > Set Remote/Ch/Install Lock to 'OFF' > Set Channel Lock Confirm to 'OFF' > Set Age Limit to 'FREE' > Press Exit > Settings were changed. Do you want to save? > Select Yes & Press OK
b) What I would have done is... download all the channels as normal from transponder 11.495 V 44100 ...then delete all the HD channels like this...
Menu > Edit Channels > Delete Channels > Highlight & Press OK on every HD channel > X appears on the selected channel numbers > Press Exit > Warning !! Do you want to delete? > Select Yes & Press OK > Saving... Please Wait !!
Then add each individual HD channel back into the channel line up like this...
Select Add Channels > Select Transponder > Enter Channel Name > Enter Video PID > Enter Audio PID > Enter PCR PID > Select Video Type H.264 > Select Audio Type MPEG4 > Press Yellow to Save
NB
PCR PID ~ enter the same value as the Video PID
Then direct each of the newly added HD channels to use the same BI$$ Key
I hope this helps...
Best Wishes,
Zorch
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dantis
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Thanks for that, it was driving me mad!
On b) that is how I did it, adding the channels manually, I just wondered how to add them using the channel editor.
Thanks
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dantis
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Yes was a little unsure at first, but all good now.
The radio station APIDs are from KOS, you leave VPIDs and PPIDs blank.
Future is looking a little rosier (for now at least).
inthemix1010
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If they are encrypted does this box TM5402HD unencrypt them ?? so they can be viewed or do I need to load special software . thanks for any info
dantis
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Out of the box the receiver is FTA, you need to flash the box with the relevant firmware and patches then load the BI55 codes, all the information is on this forum.
frankrose
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Hi
Not sure were how to post, has this my first time on this site.
Has I live part time in Portugal and the situation with regards the loss of BBC ext channels from 28.2, I have been over the last several weeks looking for alternative to receiving the main UK channels , tried the IPTV route though Pi box and XBMC very good on fibre , but not good HD.
So have installed another dish at 27.5 west and borrowed a new Megasat 920Ca box got all the UK main channels a couple of weeks ago now complete loss all sound and vision still receiving strong signal but with $ sign .
1) Is there something I should do to the setting on the Megasat ?
2) Should I return the box and buy a better and recommended box.
3) I would like to be able to have Linux on the box but would for go this to have sat box that is more main stream and supported.
Once again apologies if I have not posted correct, but greatly appreciate some advice to enable me to learn more and progress.
Not sure were how to post, has this my first time on this site.
Has I live part time in Portugal and the situation with regards the loss of BBC ext channels from 28.2, I have been over the last several weeks looking for alternative to receiving the main UK channels , tried the IPTV route though Pi box and XBMC very good on fibre , but not good HD.
So have installed another dish at 27.5 west and borrowed a new Megasat 920Ca box got all the UK main channels a couple of weeks ago now complete loss all sound and vision still receiving strong signal but with $ sign .
1) Is there something I should do to the setting on the Megasat ?
2) Should I return the box and buy a better and recommended box.
3) I would like to be able to have Linux on the box but would for go this to have sat box that is more main stream and supported.
Once again apologies if I have not posted correct, but greatly appreciate some advice to enable me to learn more and progress.
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