Sensible Topic Shamina Begum

[chookey]

The only point I disagree with is when he says she was groomed at 15. Pure conjecture. She is 19 now, an adult who still stands by her decision and the whole ISIS mentality.
Had she shown any remorse I may have felt differently

 

[JonMMM]

The only point I disagree with is when he says she was groomed at 15. Pure conjecture. She is 19 now, an adult who still stands by her decision and the whole ISIS mentality.
Had she shown any remorse I may have felt differently

She is still in Sryia, how long do you think she would live if she did?

 

[chookey]

She is still in Sryia, how long do you think she would live if she did?

She ain't with bloody Daesh mate, she's in a refugee camp.

 

[JonMMM]

And you dont think they have members there?

 

[chookey]

And you dont think they have members there?

No. But then again I haven't read the terrorists sympathiser handbook.

 

[miggy]

Now Abu Hamza’s ‘terrorist’ son begs to be let back into Britain
You let that evil bitch in then the rest will follow. Fook em all off.

 

[silverdale]

What I want to know is, who will pay her legal cost for the appeal ? ISIS ?, please don't say legal aid

 

[JonMMM]

What I want to know is, who will pay her legal cost for the appeal ? ISIS ?, please don't say legal aid

Have you ever heard the expression "Justice is blind"?

So yes if she is entitled to legal aid then thats what she gets.

Really if you dont like the law the way it is dont ignore it or try and get round it, campaign to change it?

I would be happy for much stronger treason laws to be in place, and for easier convictions for such, but it should not be for the home sec to decide a case on his own the accused still needs a fair trial.

And changes of the law need go through parliament.

There have been cases in the past that have been looked at and found to be unjust those provoking a change in the law but it does not change what happens in the original case as that was the law at the time.

Bare in mind that all of this only applies to our own laws not really international ones (although we could campaign to change them too).

Which all means in the end we are going to have to take her back, the stalling just may jive time to improve the treason laws but I doubt it.

I do not support this girl what so ever - what I do support is everyone's rights under the law, to remove hers opens the door for yours or mine to be removed

 

[silverdale]

Have you ever heard the expression "Justice is blind"?



I do not support this girl what so ever - what I do support is everyone's rights under the law, to remove hers opens the door for yours or mine to be removed

JonMMM, I think you, me and millions of others are safe m8, panic over that's unless you sent your message from Syria via racing pigeon. Were on about someone who went and supported ISIS not someone not paying their council tax then shipped off to the middle east via parachute.

And as for Justice is Blind ? its Stevie Wonder and Helen Keller and Ray Charles all rolled into one.
and, am I right in thinking there was a petition online via .gov with 500,000 signatures but was removed because it was inappropriate ?. Thats the law for you, there's one for them one for us

 

[JonMMM]

JonMMM, I think you, me and millions of others are safe m8, panic over that's unless you sent your message from Syria via racing pigeon. Were on about someone who went and supported ISIS not someone not paying their council tax then shipped off to the middle east via parachute.

And as for Justice is Blind ? its Stevie Wonder and Helen Keller and Ray Charles all rolled into one.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

 

[miggy]

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Blimey! are you a terrorist m8?.

 

[JonMMM]

Blimey! are you a terrorist m8?.

Its a very famous poem

 

[avid]

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Persecution , guilt and responsibility.

 

[miggy]

Its a very famous poem

Yeah right and I am a monkey's Uncle.

 

[HibbyDave]

Yeah right and I am a monkey's Uncle.

What time you going down the club tonight cheetah?

 

[miggy]

What time you going down the club tonight cheetah?

 

[JonMMM]

Yeah right and I am a monkey's Uncle.

First they came ... - Wikipedia...

Maybe you should do some research or better still try to learn from history

 

[miggy]

First they came ... - Wikipedia...

Maybe you should do some research or better still try to learn from history

If it's to do with them terrorist coonts I am not interested in the least.

 

[miggy]

Shamima Begum has right to return to UK - Jeremy Corbyn
What a load of shite. Straight out of the JonMMM textbook of bollox.

 

[JonMMM]

If it's to do with them terrorist coonts I am not interested in the least.

Try to read something of substance if you are capable, rather than ignoring it because it might show your what you are