I will respectfully reply to this even though i was leaving this thread alone but this is my last word.
The thing you have all missed is you are seeing only the person and not the issue. The girl is nothing to do with the issue.
I stated in my first posts what i thought but as it has continued it has become almost a war here. I have pointed out certian actions and post which i considered to be over the top. I believed and still believe the government minister deliberately made a statement that was illegal and was likely to cause racistsm within our society. I believed he did it to misdirect the country away from his party.
From there we seem to have two posts, One of basically abuse and now cartoons etc. and another that involves me. Well the one involving me is terminated after this post, But for now i will Just answer a few points, This post in paticular raises some points, As the auther is fully aware in his own country. People are flocking to apply for passports so that they can travel freely in Europe. The reason is that in law if you have a grand parent born in ireland then you are entitled to a Irish passport. This is their legal right.
So suddenly we have a case where i for instance can get a passport even though i was born in England and hold a British passport. This is my LEGAL RIGHT.
Now i will post a copy of the legal rights of the child in this case.........
Since the 1980’s, children only need one parent to be British to obtain “British by descent”, so your child probably already holds that - but it’s irrelevant, because a child born in the UK to a parent who has either UK citizenship or “Indefinite Leave to Remain” gets “British by birth”, which is slightly superior. You should register the birth with both parents in order to secure this, but either parent should suffice.
The difference between the two is that “British by descent” can only be obtained by having a parent who is “British by birth”, as a fallback for children born outside the UK. Otherwise, there is no difference.
This means that since your child is “British by birth”, their children in turn will be - at least - “British by descent”.
Otherwise, the rights and responsibilities of the citizenship are equal and permanent - you cannot renounce British citizenship.
I know the cannot renounce part is incorrect but i let it there to show i have only copied this. But the point is that the legal rights of the child and therefore the mother mean they are entitled to be not only let back into the UK but brought back into the UK.
In Windrush people left this country to go on holiday and never were allowed back in. is this again OK? people born here and parents that had lived here for thirty years or so.
I am white, I am British born and bred. Does that mean I have different rights to anyone else? Does it mean I would be treated differently. The issue is that a UK citizen has possibly committed a crime in another country and is willing to come home to face the consequence of those accusations.
Does she have a legal right to do that? If anyone here were left stranded would you think you are entitled to your rights as a UK citizen. Do you not think your child has a right to be protected by Very laws you would demand if it was your family. Like i said at the beginning it is easy to forget the issue when we have been blinded by the images and statements surrounding this case. The issue isn't should this girl be allowed back in this country, it is do we extend the very laws and rights we want to enjoy ourselves to everyone or are we going to pick and choose. See as unpalatable as it might be you have to ignore the person and look at the issue.
My belief is that she should. If we fail to uphold the rights of any British person because we do not like what they might have done then we are no better than the very people we are so outraged about.
Now i ask you all to respectfully not to reply or pass judgment on this. These are my thoughts and as such keep opinions to the thread and not directly to me.
I thank you all in anticipation of respecting my request
