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thats rubbish!In the absence of a valid argument just rubbish the opponents view until they give up?
@hamba - Generalising builders lol all true though lmao!
Mick
thats rubbish!In the absence of a valid argument just rubbish the opponents view until they give up?
The cry often goes up that: "you can't say anything without being called racist" and then, it would appear that others think this has actually happened in a reply when it clearly hasn't.
Classic examples of an intellectually dishonest debating tactic known as 'deflection'.
In one of your previous you say you are a leftie meaning that people who start threads like this one are right wing fascists and there for are automatically branded a racist!!!
In the absence of a valid argument just rubbish the opponents view until they give up?
I smile in your general direction Mick.
Some of my best friends are builders.
Similar to an Aunt Sally argument?Classic examples of an intellectually dishonest debating tactic known as 'deflection'.
Very popular with politicians throughout the ages.
Edit: I don't mean consciously dishonest btw. It's a bad habit that we tend to copy from television politics.
Similar to an Aunt Sally argument?
To be honest I don't really feel I have the right to be called a lefty. I'm fairly moderate in my political leanings and too pragmatic to take a single political or idealist standpoint.
I just thought I would accept the term as I am so often accused of it.
Bit of a hippie maybe - I'm not averse to hugging the odd tree.
Why accept being called a lefty?
I can't be arsed with this left/right/centre crap - summat either works or it doesn't. Ideologies went down the pan decades ago - they don't work. You don't need to know about a person/paper/media political leaning.
Just follow the money and all is revealed
Don't tell me my head is in the clouds: I'm not stupid.
gollywogs, paki's, paddy's, poles, gypo's where's it going to end ? every wave of immigrants is going to be the doom of this country.
A disappointing response from one usually so wise ANY country can only support a limited population. To support a growing population requires a commensurate growth in support services such as housing, NHS etc.
Someone has to pay for that.
Therefore, it is not unreasonable to ask the question how?
Sorry but this argument is getting old. The same comment being made with every wave of immigration. Of course every wave has a small minority that don't want to conform but in the main every wave pays their their own way.
Eventually it will beevery wave of immigrants is going to be the doom of this country.
I misunderstood your post - my apologies.
I really don't think the country is anywhere near capacity if managed properly. What is being felt is that a minority of the country seems to be paying more then its fair share. As with any immigration, communities tend to stick together and puts a strain on local resources which I don't argue happens. However what I do object to is the vast majority of immigrants being branded benefit thieves, criminals, etc due to the small minority.
If you check, as a percentage the greatest benefit frauds, housing benefit applicants, criminals, etc are not immigrants.
BTW< The UK has applied to EU to limit benefit and housing claims to new EU immigrates but so far has been unable to provide enough actual proof of impact.
BBC News - Benefit tourism claims: European Commission urges UK to provide evidence
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