COVID-19 vaccines have prevented 7.2 million infections and 27,000 deaths

[trevortron]

I think it would be foolish for anyone to travel abroad, just for a holiday while the pandemic is so virulent, as all those holiday places will have people coming from all over the world with who knows which variants and what conditions there are in their countries and whether they really have had their vaccinations or negative tests or are they faking them, as explained this week how to use the NHS app on your phone to "prove" that you are negative even without even taking the test.

Sorry, but I cannot agree with this. The longer we hide ourselves away the longer it will take for this whole shitstorm to pass.
Note that the 7.2 millon /27,000 figures above are based on a computer model, though thankfully not Ferguson's from Imperial College as even the blind can see him for what he is. Nonetheless, they are still not real figures, they are only as accurate as the inputted data. And those data are optimistically based on wildly inaccurate PCR and lateral flow tests plus the bizzare "died within 28 days of testing positive" con so the statistics cannot be believed.
Pure spin to con more people into taking the clot shot.

 

[Rumpelstiltskin.]

Pure spin to con more people into taking the clot shot.

Usual crap expected from you.

 

[digidude]

Here we go again! The same old, same old. Conspiracies and half-baked truths. View attachment 136419


We're all going to be f*cked at this rate. View attachment 136420

Not the same old at all m8, simply pointing out that EVERYTHING we are told, no matter what side you sit on, has been based on educated guesswork, and skewed data, along with vaccines that havent had ANY form of long term study attached to them, simply because of how fast everything has happened.

What information was available to YOU that you based your decision on? As ive pointed out, 3 different doctors told my wife 3 different things, all knowing her medical history, and their advise was based upon 'information available to them'. If they cant agree whos right, then how are us at the bottom of the pile meant to know whos right or wrong?

The last line, i totally agree with. Over a long enough time line, 100% of people who have had one of more vaccine shots, will be dead, along with 100% of those who havent had the shots

 

[Sandra51]

Usual crap expected from you.

I think that most of us are fighting a losing battle here manic, it's a bit like when Galileo Galilei was trying to convince people that the Earth went around the Sun. Even when something seems to be so obvious and the science has proved it, some people will never be convinced.

 

[dar1437]

it's a bit like when Galileo Galilei was trying to convince people that the Earth went around the Sun.

What!!!

 

[trevortron]

I think that most of us are fighting a losing battle here manic, it's a bit like when Galileo Galilei was trying to convince people that the Earth went around the Sun. Even when something seems to be so obvious and the science has proved it, some people will never be convinced.

What science? Proved what?

 

[dar1437]

 

[nara]

What science? Proved what?

You don't believe that the earth moves round the Sun?

 

[trevortron]

I do believe Earth orbits the sun. It was proven by real scientists with no conflicts of interest, and is confirmed by my own observations.
The pseudo-science touted by government shills is not credible to anyone who makes the effort to question it.

 

[silverdale]

To all those who are not prepared to be vaccinated I suggest you give this a read:
BBC News - Coronavirus doctor's diary: 'Not having the vaccine is the biggest mistake of my life’
Coronavirus doctor's diary: 'Not having the vaccine is the biggest mistake of my life’

The problem we all face now is, as restrictions are lifted and millions become in contact with each other the percentage of people needing hospital treatment will sharply rise as highlighted in the artical.

It's nothing more than a numbers game. The more who contract Covid (vaccine or no vaccine) the bigger percentage of people will need treatment and a possible trip to hospital.

Since March 2019 this will be the biggest test. Me?, I personally cannot see anything else bar another lockdown with a flu outbreak imminent and now an outbreak of the norovirus (vomiting virus) we will be under attack from 3 sides

 

[nara]

The pseudo-science touted by government shills is not credible to anyone who makes the effort to question it.

More conspiracy theory bull. We're just going round in circles here.

 

[trevortron]

To all those who are not prepared to be vaccinated I suggest you give this a read:
BBC News - Coronavirus doctor's diary: 'Not having the vaccine is the biggest mistake of my life’
Coronavirus doctor's diary: 'Not having the vaccine is the biggest mistake of my life’

The problem we all face now is, as restrictions are lifted and millions become in contact with each other the percentage of people needing hospital treatment will sharply rise as highlighted in the artical.

It's nothing more than a numbers game. The more who contract Covid (vaccine or no vaccine) the bigger percentage of people will need treatment and a possible trip to hospital.

Since March 2019 this will be the biggest test. Me?, I personally cannot see anything else bar another lockdown with a flu outbreak imminent and now an outbreak of the norovirus (vomiting virus) we will be under attack from 3 sides

The BBC? Seriously? If that's your source of info then that explains the blinkered viewpoint. The BBC is about as reliable as an MP's promise.
That article is as fake as they come.

But you are probably correct re. oncoming flu etc. outbreaks though, and the lockdowns, (anti)social distancing and masks are entirely to blame as most of us have missed out on 18 months of 'normal' social interaction which would have kept our immune systems topped up with antibodies. And yes, the idiots in charge will probably impose more lockdowns, but this is just kicking the ball down the road. Long term it will do no good while in the meantime killing off more businesses and causing more misery and despair.

 

[nara]

That article is as fake as they come.

Your mindset is as blinkered as they come.

 

[trevortron]

Your mindset is as blinkered as they come.

You may think so but I do listen to both sides of the argument and believe the side I find most credible.
I am not a fan of the BBC (understatement) as they distort the truth until it becomes unrecognisable.

But they did let this slip by....
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[owen]

We will all have to live with it, just like the flu, get a jab each year.

 

[Sandra51]

A lot of people somehow think that this virus is "just a bit of flu" obviously if someone has ever had flu for real they would realise that you can never have just a bit of flu, they probably just had a cold as flu is terrible, and they say it only affects the old and vulnerable but doesn't affect the young.

Maybe they should tell that to this young lad's family :

Family's heartbreak as Covid-19 claims life of rugby-mad lad, aged just 22

The latest reports are also saying that there are a lot of younger people who have had the virus and recovered from it but have been left with organ damage, lungs, liver and heart, and will never be the same again.

 

[cactikid]

I have just seen a mad video of samples been tested for covid 19 and is not what you expected and ahh grand my test was negative and your were positive spreading the news.

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[silverdale]

The BBC? Seriously? If that's your source of info then that explains the blinkered viewpoint. The BBC is about as reliable as an MP's promise.
That article is as fake as they come.

But you are probably correct re. oncoming flu etc. outbreaks though, and the lockdowns, (anti)social distancing and masks are entirely to blame as most of us have missed out on 18 months of 'normal' social interaction which would have kept our immune systems topped up with antibodies. And yes, the idiots in charge will probably impose more lockdowns, but this is just kicking the ball down the road. Long term it will do no good while in the meantime killing off more businesses and causing more misery and despair.

My source is Fasail Bashir who realised its real not fake news and could have died through not been vaccinated.

Your sounding more and more like Donald from over the pond








Duck

 

[trevortron]

A lot of people somehow think that this virus is "just a bit of flu" obviously if someone has ever had flu for real they would realise that you can never have just a bit of flu, they probably just had a cold as flu is terrible, and they say it only affects the old and vulnerable but doesn't affect the young.

Maybe they should tell that to this young lad's family :

Family's heartbreak as Covid-19 claims life of rugby-mad lad, aged just 22

The latest reports are also saying that there are a lot of younger people who have had the virus and recovered from it but have been left with organ damage, lungs, liver and heart, and will never be the same again.

And what about the poor people who have been seriously damaged or killed by the experimental jab? Don't they matter?

Don't get me wrong, I am NOT antivax, but I am totally against coercing people to take part in a mass experiment. No one knows what the long term effects of these concoctions will be (or perhaps they do but they daren't say).

People are being lied to and are not being told the whole story.
For example: Were you told the jab is still in phase 3 trials which won't be complete until 2023? Didn't think so.
Victims are being jabbed without being asked any questions about their medical history or what other medications they may be taking. When did this suddenly become acceptable? Why is this jab any different? Could it be because government ministers and advisors are benefiting? Or is that just another conspiracy theory?
As I replied to @silverdale earlier, I do look at both sides (unless it involves the BBC lol!). Never before have the 'alternative' news sources consistently made more sense than the MSM narrative.

 

[Spectre]

What I find a bit odd is that some people whom have been vaccinated are being made to take a test, usually by their workplace. If you have been vaccinated, a positive result from an antigen test is a good thing as it shows the vaccination has worked.

Antigen tests are probably most useful before vaccination. A PCR test would be required to look for current Covid virus activity after a vaccination.