Bad glitching recently

[river4ever]

I was thinking something was up.
My old provider was brilliant for years. Then problems started.
(recently)
I went through every single thing you could imagine to fix it with no luck.
The only thing that fixed was different provider.
All good now.

It was clearly stated at the start of this thread that providers are to blame. I didn't want to believe it.
But it is the case.
Providers problem.

 

[alimac]

always has been always will be simples

 

[jfish]

If you line is multiroom the chances are is on a cashe server,A cashe server is a sub server off a main server and its not using real cards,If your provider is using real cards you should be fine as long as its not over subscribed

how can you tell if the provider is using real cards or cached server

 

[river4ever]

If you line is multiroom the chances are is on a cashe server

I really don't think you can say a supplier that offers multiroom has no card.
What I seen within the last couple weeks proves that is wrong.
My new provider charged a small fee for multiroom.
Maybe "most of multiroom suppliers" have no cards. But certainly not all.

As @jfish says "how do you know"?
I don't think there is a way to tell.

 

[lescantle]

You can tell a couple of different ways,The amount of cards that is used from day to day varies,If you see 20 cards one day and 10 the next day then it means that people are using each others cards and sharing with hence cashe,If i use your card and you use mine and we share with each other and so on,If i pull out then it puts strain on all other cards,Real card server will stay about the same and maybe add a couple of extra as they add more lines

 

[lescantle]

I really don't think you can say a supplier that offers multiroom has no card.
What I seen within the last couple weeks proves that is wrong.
My new provider charged a small fee for multiroom.
Maybe "most of multiroom suppliers" have no cards. But certainly not all.

As @jfish says "how do you know"?
I don't think there is a way to tell.

They can do mutiroom but it will need to be done line by line their end

 

[JonMMM]

They can do mutiroom but it will need to be done line by line their end

What if you have a duel receiver?

 

[chookey]

What if you have a duel receiver?

Now that would be challenging roud:

 

[jfish]

You can tell a couple of different ways,The amount of cards that is used from day to day varies,If you see 20 cards one day and 10 the next day then it means that people are using each others cards and sharing with hence cashe,If i use your card and you use mine and we share with each other and so on,If i pull out then it puts strain on all other cards,Real card server will stay about the same and maybe add a couple of extra as they add more lines

how can you tell how many cards are being used by the provider ?

 

[river4ever]

how can you tell how many cards are being used by the provider ?

go into softcam manager cccam info then server info. It will tell you in there.
But it won't tell me in MGcamd.

 

[jfish]

[SUP][/SUP]

go into softcam manager cccam info then server info. It will tell you in there.
But it won't tell me in MGcamd.

I use oscam so will see if I can get this info

 

[lescantle]

What if you have a duel receiver?

Duel tuner/triple tuner boxes are fine,Each box will have its own ip address

 

[JonMMM]

Duel tuner/triple tuner boxes are fine,Each box will have its own ip address

No that is not the way it works at all, even though internally everything on your home network has its own IP Address (normally 192.168.1.xxx) anything outside on the web will see the 1 IP assigned to you by your ISP it is then the job of your router to send all of the incoming traffic to the correct device that requested it.

There is a way that they can see if its different devices on the same network that are accessing the server but it has nothing to do with the IP address

 

[lescantle]

I can promise you that a server will know when 2 boxes are connected by the ecms is receives from 2 boxes when requesting premium channels,Its not on the ip address but the way is decodes

 

[JonMMM]

No its not.

Its the MAC address which is sent with the external IP address, these are all simple things.

And also is not the issue as I posted earlier that I was getting glitching on a duel tuner system when both tuners were being used at the same time but not when only one was in use

 

[lescantle]

Can you not contact your supplier to ask if your line is ok to use on a twin tuner box then

 

[JonMMM]

After being a really good supplier he just want silent on me. But anyway different supplier problem solved. The thing is what you have said has some holes in it and is not necessarily correct (it could be in some situations I don't know but it is definatly not THE answer).

 

[river4ever]

There is many suppliers that don't allow twin tuners.
You see them say "no twin tuners"
Its only recently happened probably due to the fact that twin tuners are cheap at the moment and many are buying them.
Things have moved on from openboxes and if everyone uses twin tuners it will affect the server.

but my old supplier did allow twin tuners and that gave issues.
(Recently)

New supplier allows twin tuners. (No issues)

so people having issues has nothing to do with sly doing things or twin tuners. (Unless your provider doesn't allow twin tuners)
Its providers problem.

 

[jfish]

No its not.

Its the MAC address which is sent with the external IP address, these are all simple things.

And also is not the issue as I posted earlier that I was getting glitching on a duel tuner system when both tuners were being used at the same time but not when only one was in use

technically the mac address can or rather your own mac address can not be routed thru the internet.

MAC address is unique to a network device and operates at the data link layer.

The data link layer is concerned with local delivery of frames between devices on the same LAN.

Therefore you own MAC address associated with your device will not be routed across the internet.

 

[river4ever]

I use oscam so will see if I can get this info

If you can't get a reading of the cards
(as I didn't on MGcamd)
disable oscam and run it as CCcam as N:

i get 3

update........

just flicked over to £7 a year rubbish I mentioned awhile ago.

It says 48