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WiFi WIFI network for a 1000m

Discussion in 'Wired and Wireless Networking' started by easymo3, May 13, 2017.

  1. easymo3

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    Can anybody please advise on the hardware needed to setup a wifi network over a large aerea?
    I have been asked if I can look into getting WIFI from a Farm house using BT homehub4 to pump WIFI over the farm Area about 1000 meter square roughly.
    Cost will not be the issue here!
    The area is quite flat with the house been a little uphill with the farm area a little downhill from the house, but I need signal to 360 degrees from the house.
    Thanks for any input/ links etc to any good network site.

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    I do not know if this is even possible, so please do not shoot me down if not!!
     
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    Hi, Many thanks for your reply.
    So I will install the yagi on a mast, probably next to the existing aerial on the chimney?
    Will I the install the other router in one of the buildings, which will pick up the signal for the yagi antenna?
    Will that Antenna send out 360degree signal?
     
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    there is a few ways to do this . firstly you need to find a router you can connect this antenna to , the bt hub will not let you do this
    you could add a second router in the loft and connect to the bt hub this way or replace bt hub
    then you can use a second router in the location you need net as an access point
     
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    Thanks, I can add a second router in the loft,Can you please advise?
    That will make it easier to cable from the new router to the antenna on the chimney.
    Will I then run ethernet from bt home hub into the new router in loft?
    Install another router in buildings which i can then run ethernet from said router to other parts of the farm and install wifi access points?
     
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    something like this except you only need one router at second house but will need to have an external antenna as well
    ANT-WIFI-KIT-PTP.jpg

    will be better with a couple of routers that run dd-wrt
     
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    Any advise please on a good dd-wrt router?
    it is a minefield of what is ok and what is not.
     
  8. eon

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    What Turner has recommended will not work for what you want. This is a directional attenna and will not work for the full 360 degrees. It will give a very good signal but in a very narrow beam.

    1000m is quit a large area to fill but should be possible to a certain degree. Not only do you need to think about the base antenna but also the remote antennas and are these powerfull enough not only to receive the signal from the base station but also to send the signal back to the base station.

    If the remote stations are in fixed positions then the antenna recomended would work for them providing they have clear line of site. There should be multi direction antennas on the net that would work for the base station.
     
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    What would your advise be?
    I have been looking at the ubiquiti range, which look good, have you any dealings with ubiquiti equipment?
     
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    A bit more info would be good m8, how many clients? what kind of clients, fixed or mibile? how far away? do they all have line of site?
     
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    I will try and take a photo from google map, to show what I am trying to achieve.
    It might take a few minutes.
     
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    Hopefully I have added a picture of the bungalow.
    There is now a new large building to the left of the existing buildings. I need x2 good ip.cctv cameras in there with pan/tilt etc. From the bungalow I need Wifi as far a possible in a 360 direction.

    - - - Updated - - -

    I can add Poe access points if needs be!
     
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    Still not much info there. How many clients? Furthest client? Client locations? are they fixed stations or are you hoping to use laptop, phone?

    Anyway something like this would work for the base station using 2 to give full 360 degree coverage. Sector panel antenna WiFi 2.4GHz 14 dBi gain 180 degre - Simple WiFi

    If the clients are in fixed positions then something like what Turner suggested would work. If they are mobile ie, laptop or phone then there is not much chance of these working at any resonable distance.

    But line of site is key. if you have any obstical between the base station and client then your sol.
     
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    sorry about the info given. At most there would be about 5 clients using it, furthest client no more than 800m from bungalow.
    It is mostly for phone wifi.
    With the link you provided, do they take a ethernet connection? do they power over ethernet?
     
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    TBH m8 if its phone wifi you are after using there is little to no chance that it would work at any kind of distance especially 800m.

    This is down to the power and antenna of the phones wifi. You may receive a signal from the base station but getting a signal back from a phones wifi will be near impossible.
     
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    you can use a repeater at the second building from the second router so I would connect to the second router's wifi this way the phones are talking to the local router and not from the
    first that's 800 meters away
     
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    I still doubt that this would work due to the phones hardware. You would get 50m max using a phones wifi regardless of the base station used or location of the single repeater. Muliple repeaters spread throughout the area would. What he is after will not be easy to achive. Using fixed routers and directional antennas distance is possible.
     
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    I think we are getting mixed up here , I get he wants to provide internet to another building and use the phones and so on in the other building
    not 800 meter away from building . so the 2 building linked via antenna's and then wifi devices in second building
     
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    ip cams and phones at second building ? is that correct or if not what would be the max distance from a building you would need
     
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    I was a bit confussed myself what he wanted at first but going off these two statements it does appear he wants wifi 800m from the bungalow to be used by phones.

     

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