what i think about the ss and rh codes

[richard64]

I totally agree with dommac. There are other forums that have stopped offering the codes purely due to the server load on Sunday's by non-contributers. As you can read this thread without having to be logged in, then placing the codes back here would simply add extra server load from those wanting to grab codes and not give anything.

Sure, I agree

In my opinion:
- if people don't want to crontribute to DW now, having the codes in public will not change their opinion on this.
- any forcing donation for codes is bad. Its about giving back not some form of PPV.

At present people who contribute to the site are allowed in to the code-room, this is mainly by participating in the forums and so showing you are an active member of the community. The donating-for-access option is there because not everyone has the time/inclination to participate in the forum (or are impatient to get in) and so donating money contributes to the real-world server costs of the site.

well, in my case I wonder if contributing code acts as a contribution? I have put a lot of time into the pocketpc version of the keygen, and gave dommac some pointers as to how he could improve his code. Now I havent got access to the private forum, so I will not be able to contribute any more to it.

richard

 

[hamba]

Sure, I agree



well, in my case I wonder if contributing code acts as a contribution? I have put a lot of time into the pocketpc version of the keygen, and gave dommac some pointers as to how he could improve his code. Now I havent got access to the private forum, so I will not be able to contribute any more to it.

richard

The problem for the mods is in seeing who is a contributer.

I know you have contributed in the closed room but, because you haven't ventured forth into the rest of the site, you don't show up much - also you only show as having ten posts.

I'm sure if you pm Rat, Reddevil or Napster, and tell them your situation, they will see you deserve to have access.

Or maybe you can't PM because of your post count?

Anyway if the mods are looking here: I can vouch that Richard has contributed.

 

[darcy]

My Two Cents...

Hi all,

It would seam there are definate pros and cons to the closed room system... on the plus side we have a room with only trustworthy people having access and to my knowlage no one has tried to take advantage of dommacs generosity since the room was first started. the server doesn't get overloaded and codes are easy to find....i imagine the alternative would have been dommac changing url every second week for his original keygen if the closed room had not been opened.

on the minus side....rat and reddivil must be over run with people asking for access every day, it must be difficult for them to decide who to let in. (big thanks to both of them for all of there work:Clap: )
We have also seen a general lowering of the standards in open forum since the room was opened... with people postclocking non sense posts and asking the constant question " how do i get acces","what are todays codes" etc. (although noticably this has got better within the past month)

to sum up... i think the system works pretty well but i would like to see things like the manual decode by hand examples brought back into the open forum this i think, would generate new interest in decoding and give new members somthing to talk about other than the closed room....lets face it if you have a dvb-t card you dont need the codes...but when was the last time you heard this in open forum.

Hmm think i'm starting to rant now ......sorry guys too much to drink tonight...

Darcy

 

[notanotherone]

why start a thred like this when you know what the reaction of the members will be ?1 post, ive been on some forums where you wouldnt even get an answer to this they would just ban you most ppl on here have contributed one way or another god it took me ages to get codes and i respected the reason why i waited and asked the right ppl at the right time so to answer your question .............no i dont think anything should change is that a good enough answer

 

[Reddevil]

well its 5 days on and still only 1 post this says it all i think..

 

[Rat]

My Two Cents...
i think the system works pretty well but i would like to see things like the manual decode by hand examples brought back into the open forum this i think, would generate new interest in decoding and give new members somthing to talk about other than the closed room

Darcy

there are exaples still in the open forum 2 stickys
http://www.world-of-digital.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41294
http://www.world-of-digital.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42394

 

[tlogic]

Wat a cheek m8 with your first post.

The reason why its behind closed doors is because of some people who just come in here takes the code and then just fecks off, without any contribution wat so ever, I don't mean in a donation sence because I understand when someone can't afford something but in a sence of posting and helping. when you become a regular active member in this forums you will have access to the closed rooms, but it takes time.

We dn't like catting (leechers)!

I think thats wat you are!

 

[cov]

codes are elsewhere in any case in open forum and it aint worth the bitchin to get in "a special forum" and certainley not paying for a code for a pay per view site, gosh that would be against the rule as its illegal, however i digress there are better and easier applications around which will not have the next knock at your door sending you hiding behind your chavvy ikea....lol

 

[Speedy2206]

@susanmcclean...

Why not just pay £16 towards the site and get the codes anyway?! Thats the equivilant of a few nights viewing of SS/RH.... and is definately money well spent. Alternatively, if you feel you can contribute to the site in another way, why not do that?! If mods/admin can see you deserve to be in the closed room, you'll be granted access

Remember, by using any form of keygen or "code cracking", whether it be freeview cable or satellite, you are breaking the law and committing an offence (its what they call "Theft of Service", and you might wanna look up the Copyright Designs and Patents Act 1988 too). So getting these codes are a BONUS to you; not a right!

The original reason for having a "closed room" is stated above - leachers and people just trying to make a quick buck out of other peoples work. Because you have only 1 post and you are complaining, then it is only human to assume that you fit this category. It would not be fair to judge you like that, but thats the general impression.

I do agree with posting the manual method of working out the codes on the open forums - this would let people do a bit of work for themselves and show the technical side of it. If people then want to make their own keygens etc and sell those on eBay then so be it - its their own work, but I wouldnt buy it myself

I am more of a person that would want to see how its done and do a bit of work rather than just take it directly from the forums.

 

[nix9]

I do agree with posting the manual method of working out the codes on the open forums - this would let people do a bit of work for themselves and show the technical side of it. If people then want to make their own keygens etc and sell those on eBay then so be it - its their own work, but I wouldnt buy it myself

I am more of a person that would want to see how its done and do a bit of work rather than just take it directly from the forums.

The manual method is easy - its a simple paper exercise, and has been posted. However these still require codes being published. The suggestion of allowing the manual method in the open still requires putting up the MHEG codes in the public.

Creating a keygen is a trivial task (sorry, I don't mean to demean any of the excellent keygens available, but I'm sure the programmers would admit the pin code generation part is small its all the stuff they add on (like auto-update etc) that make them special).
Any keygen anyone makes still requires getting the codes each day, and so I don't like to see these on ebay IF they are relying on others posting codes in a forum (they are selling their initial work but relying on other peoples effort for continued supply of codes). Of course if the person selling the keygens also put up their own code site for them and kept them updated, then thats being paid for ongoing effort.

Its the whole selfish making money off of other peoples effort that will never see a true keygen (or the code behind it) being released in the public domain. The codes for RH/SS use pseudo-random elements (i.e. computer generated from a seed) and its feasible for this to be replicated and so a keygen produced that doesn't rely on daily updates from a forum. Such an offering would be letting the genie out of the bottle - appearing on ebay etc as its self contained.

To be honest, the other reason why it wouldn't appear is because TUTV would eventually find out and simply change the system to irregularly refresh the psudo-random element, and so we'd be back to periodic updates (though I suppose at irregular intervals not daily).

Getting back on track...

So getting these codes are a BONUS to you; not a right!

The original reason for having a "closed room" is stated above - leachers and people just trying to make a quick buck out of other peoples work. Because you have only 1 post and you are complaining, then it is only human to assume that you fit this category. It would not be fair to judge you like that, but thats the general impression.

Quite right they are a bonus. I'm actually suprised that this thread is still alive. The OP hasn't been back, and concensus is that the closed room method is best.