Taekwondo and Martial Arts Introduction

[Robbie210]

Hi i'm robbie, i do taekwondo and have been for a few years now, im national champion, london international champion, and the british master class champion, all for 2010, i would like to know if there's anyone who does any type of training or martial arts on here?

 

[oneman]

muay thai kick boxing, jujitsu and ground fighting but I'm not as serious as you.

 

[Tamarc]

Made red belt long time ago under Master TK Loh(now grandmaster) still follow the TKD scene and big supporter of G/Master Loh.


Ps Congrats on your achievments so far,may you continue to progress,best of luck....Tamarc

 

[Robbie210]

muay thai kick boxing, jujitsu and ground fighting but I'm not as serious as you.

Good to hear someone else is also doing martial arts so do you kick bamboo tree's? and jujisu is throwing and ground fighting is'nt it ? what is ground fighting exacley? Ground impound? and all serious martial artist's should consider the tao of Jeet Kune Do, the knowledge from bruce lee's book is very useful to any martial artist in any form.

 

[Robbie210]

Made red belt long time ago under Master TK Loh(now grandmaster) still follow the TKD scene and big supporter of G/Master Loh.


Ps Congrats on your achievments so far,may you continue to progress,best of luck....Tamarc

Thanks mate and congrats to you to achiving your red belt, black-tag is next, and it's not easy But all the best mate and keep training! roud:

 

[oneman]

Good to hear someone else is also doing martial arts so do you kick bamboo tree's? and jujisu is throwing and ground fighting is'nt it ? what is ground fighting exacley? Ground impound? and all serious martial artist's should consider the tao of Jeet Kune Do, the knowledge from bruce lee's book is very useful to any martial artist in any form.

No kicking bamboo trees, lol

jujitsu is self defence art, supposedly developed in japan for samuri warriors. Grapling, throws, trips, holds, locks, chokes, etc. Also involved weapons training. This is the organisation that I train at,
Jikishin Ju Jitsu Association Homepage

TBH like most places, 2/3 of the session we do sparring, ground work, street defense and attack techniques, etc. Stuff that is not on the 'syllbus', pure JJ is about 1/3 of the session.

ground fighting is a combination of brazillian jujitsu and grappling. You spend a lot of time on working position to control and gain a submission holds, so in a street situation for example if a fight goes to the ground (the worst place to IMHO) then you know how to control them and work a submission hold. BTW its probably the most intense workout you can get cardio wise.

In a way bruce was one of the fore runners to MMA, he trained with one of the most renowned wrestlers and strikers of his time. Tooks bits of what worked and what didn't. Somebody who understood that all martial arts (including boxing) have something to offer, no art is perfect in all situations. A fight can go through many stages, striking at range, close quarter fighting, ground fighting. Be adaptable, be ready.

 

[Robbie210]

No kicking bamboo trees, lol

jujitsu is self defence art, supposedly developed in japan for samuri warriors. Grapling, throws, trips, holds, locks, chokes, etc. Also involved weapons training. This is the organisation that I train at,
Jikishin Ju Jitsu Association Homepage

TBH like most places, 2/3 of the session we do sparring, ground work, street defense and attack techniques, etc. Stuff that is not on the 'syllbus', pure JJ is about 1/3 of the session.

ground fighting is a combination of brazillian jujitsu and grappling. You spend a lot of time on working position to control and gain a submission holds, so in a street situation for example if a fight goes to the ground (the worst place to IMHO) then you know how to control them and work a submission hold. BTW its probably the most intense workout you can get cardio wise.

In a way bruce was one of the fore runners to MMA, he trained with one of the most renowned wrestlers and strikers of his time. Tooks bits of what worked and what didn't. Somebody who understood that all martial arts (including boxing) have something to offer, no art is perfect in all situations. A fight can go through many stages, striking at range, close quarter fighting, ground fighting. Be adaptable, be ready.

Yes jujistu is as you say, a self defence art, like most martial arts are, and ground fight sound's pretty effective in the street, make sure to remind me never to fight you on the floor lol. And bruce was indeed, the best martial artist around under any circumstances at his time. He knew martial arts inside out, and im sure he would still be the best today, although MMA is a rough "sport" or "martial art" what ever you would like to call it, but i quess every martial artist had something to offer, there own opinion or own judgemen. In this bruce was the best man on the case of MMA as im sure he would be undefeaten. "Longest weapon, closest target!" that was how he saw fighting, and from every marital art he did, he said that you should take from it what is useful to you, and discard what is not.

I should think that from the three martial arts that you are doing today that you use what is useful from them and learn/train more and more, researching the martial arts and maybe sometime getting into more martial arts exspanding the knowledge of your fighting. I think that from your intelligence you could go far into learning these different martial arts, I wish you the best of luck, and hope you keep training Robbie.

 

[oneman]

I wish you the best of luck, and hope you keep training Robbie.

Yeah, just got back from 5 hours of training today. We do 90 kickboxing that my mate runs at work. Get home, bite to eat, help put my daughter to bed hhen I assist in teaching 90 minute jujitsu class which my son trains in, then drop him off home and then a 2 hour class that I train in. Got grading on Sunday, cross fingers it should be OK, only my third grading so only 30 moves to learn.

As for ground fighting, always good to know it but I would never recommend taking a street fight to the ground because usually your opponents mate is going to kick you in the head. I would say stay out of range, jump in to strike and get out of range again. That is where kickboxing is useful. If they have a weapon then close the range and nullify the weapon and take them down and that is where jujitsu helps and finally you don't know if they are going to rush you or grab you and take you down so that is where jujitsu and ground fighting help. But there are many many aspects to real fighting. If nothing else then learn how to throw a 1-2 punch combination effectivily, something you can do in a couple of lessons.

 

[foxylady]

Myself i do Wingchun.
Very calm relaxed way of using defence into attack.
Idea is to basically end a fight in less thn 10 seconds with punch combinations which as you train can and will be lightening fast.
You can be any size, height etc it is for anyone.
I do 2 sessions of 1 half hours each a week, plus do a few hours a week at home on wooden dummy and wall bag.
Anyway enough of me lol, nice to see others doing material arts

 

[gsmtech]

Dont really rate most of the commercialised martial arts these days...theyre heavily watered down and set techniques are not effective.

Theres very few true combat arts left that are taught in there true style...probably because theyre highly lethal in nature. The Filipino arts look good Kali, Eskrima,Panantukan other arts like Arnis, Silat , Ninjitsu, Sytema are also good and BJJ for ground work. JKD and Krav Maga also look good...Krav is apparently a rip off of various other arts mixed into one though...

Seen a few intresting demos at the Martial Arts Festival this year at NEC, theres an old school North Indian martial art thats looks very intresting Shastar Vidiya incorporates bladed weapons, and mace, stick etc..also has hands free and grappling, vital point strikes etc..

 

[snapman]

Used to teach Shotokan Karate quite a few years ago.

Like all martial arts/boxing/etc, one of the best things kids can learn from it, apart for a great level of fitness, is discipline.

 

[big-ron]

i do Goju & shotokan karate,been doing it now for 10 years, being teaching for about 6 and got my 2nd dan last year, it was the hardist grading i have eva done, 4 hours of hell, but still go back for more i also cover my instructor if he's away doing his training down south. last night we was out on a sensei's and seniors instructors xmas night in newcastle for a meal and a few drinks, not knowing that their was award give out, instructor of the year for the region, and my instructor stud up and said a few words and my name was called out, was shocked but so proud.

 

[oneman]

i do Goju & shotokan karate,been doing it now for 10 years, being teaching for about 6 and got my 2nd dan last year, it was the hardist grading i have eva done, 4 hours of hell, but still go back for more i also cover my instructor if he's away doing his training down south. last night we was out on a sensei's and seniors instructors xmas night in newcastle for a meal and a few drinks, not knowing that their was award give out, instructor of the year for the region, and my instructor stud up and said a few words and my name was called out, was shocked but so proud.

Congrats big ron,

I help teach instructors and newbies at my club and its great feeling watching as the make progression and foster their enthusium.

 

[Evastar]

well done big-ron :Clap:

 

[oneman]

Don't really rate most of the commercialised martial arts these days...theyre heavily watered down and set techniques are not effective.

My experience has been that very few MA clubs teach a pure style these days aside from karate places I have been to. Virtually all spend a portion of their time teach the application of their style to street defence not just competition work. This includes going off syllabus were required. I would also say that full contact sparring is absolutely vital to training, anyone can learn a bunch of techniques, the real skill is applying them when somebody is punching you in the head. I think at bruce said, punch bags don't hit back, lol.

 

[zad]

Lads been training in Goju-ru for 7 years now... soft as shit though and I so wish he would use it when push comes to shove.

Reminds me too there was a 4th dan in the local other week and apparently got knocked out in one for gobbing off.. so as lads sensei says best defence is not to be there

 

[oneman]

So I was thinking about different styles today as I had my jujitsu grading and there is a TKD opened up near me. Was browsing online and came across this which has some interesting insights into what strengths the different japanese arts have.

Aikido, Judo, Jujitsu and Karate - Comparing Different Martial Arts to Jujitsu


Foxylady, at the grading was one of my mates I see from time to time and he is a big fan of wing chun and JKD, been studying them for around 15 years, also happens to be a 2nd jujitsu black belt and has recently started messing with Akido. He is quite small and you would never thing how dangerous he could be. Anyway he said out of the striking arts, he actually like wing chun because of its simplicity and directness plus he says smaller people who find it a better striking art.

Somebody else mentioned Krav Maga, utilised by Israel army it basically is a street defence art that focuses on drilling a few techniques to maximum effect. For example traditional jujitsu has over 150 techniques for black belt. It would be impossible to apply many of them in a street situation, so what I really do like about krav maga is that it focuses on those techniques (not just from jjj) that work in real life and that can be trained to become instinctive. As my sensi says, in a fight don't worry about what is the best technique, keep striking until something useful enters you head, hopefully by then the opponant will be down, lol.

 

[Robbie210]

Kool good to hear someone is'nt as boring as most people! i agree there, alot of martial arts have been waterd down, turned into sports or not teaching the proper style.

 

[pootas]

2nd Dan in Judo, was British Champion for 3 years and ranked number 3 in Europe as a Junior/Youth

Also boxed for Wales for 4 years but gave it up due to work commitments...Wish I had kept both of them going now tho...Still fight occasionally but nothing major...

 

[Blartiartfast]

Taught Aikido for a few years, trained at aiki jitsu, and went to a Brazillian jiu jitsu seminar in hull with one of the gracie cousins (machodo). He took my breathe away. Class of 20 of us Judo, Aiki, Karate, TKD, etc.. Took us all on one by one from standing.. Beat us all in around 20 - 30 seconds.. Didn't hurt any of us..He kindly gave us plenty of time to tap out. Was an invite only, and minimum grade was 1st Dan.

Out of all of them, I liked Aikido most of all. If the technique wasn't right, it simply wouldn't work, when the timing was right.. Blimey.

Thought I was good, then trained with Naryama Sensei. He seemed to barley move, and the next thing you remember was your breakfall.. Again, never hurt anyone though.

Finally, went to Steven Segals seminar in Paris (it was his fault I started donkies years ago). He picked about a dozen of us (bigger the better it looked like) one by one invited us to hit him in the face as hard as we could. Obviously just avoided (that's what Aiki is about right)? He kept the 6 he believed tried to hit him the best. Then he asked us all run at him at the same time, and do the same (it's an old trick, only 2 are going to get anywhere near him if he moves backwards slightly, and everyone is coming from the same direction). He hit like he'd caught me with his Wife. I felt crap for the rest of the day. Pure showboating, but at least it's something to tell the kids when he's on the telly...


Had to stop the lot sadly, after some "Lady" drove her 406 into the back of me at a roundabout. Used to watch UFC. When it 1st started, it was very good. Different martial arts against each other. Brazillian Jiu Jitsu reigned supreme.. Everyone learned it, and KickBoxing.. That pretty much seems to be what everyone does now.. There's the odd few that break the mould, and who could forget "Tank" Abbott. Reckon he learned martial arts half way through his career. Was as hard as hell, and could punch like a train.