will give it ago just discontented the lnb cable from the sky dish i get that bit error rate same one as when connected to the other lnb so its gotta be that thanks for all your help will let you no how it turns out :Wave:
morning all the lnb was working all along i used some tape to strap it to the sky dish and its working fine:Angryfire
new lnb on the way for nothing ah well i have now brought a sat meter so now what sat do i try align it to