Car pool Lane between J25 and 27 on the M62?

[dinky doo]

"King Queen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 15:15:08 +0100, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> >[email protected] says...
> >> On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 11:30:08 +0100, Dave Fawthrop
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >You are ignoring the fact that Parliament voted for the war.
> >>
> >> Only because:
> >> 1) the majority in Parliament are as corrupt as he is
> >> 2) he lied to us about extra evidence that we couldn't see as it was
> >> classified.
> >>
> >
> >Of course it was classified, they knew full well what weapons Iraq had,
> >on account of the fact we sold him them!!!
>
> Well who sold them the t72 tanks, and S.A.M.S , der? was it the Soviet
Union?
I can't remember anyone metioning Iraqui Challenger or Abraham Tanks, F14,
15 or Tornado jets.
Or Iraqui ground forces using SLR's or SL80's.

Get real for fukts sake
Their whole armed forces were based on the Soviet model.
Anyone with exprience of B.O.A.R. will tell you the same.


tommy

 

[fred]

On Saturday, in article <[email protected]>
[email protected] "dinky doo" wrote:

> "King Queen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 15:15:08 +0100, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >In article <[email protected]>,
> > >[email protected] says...
> > >> On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 11:30:08 +0100, Dave Fawthrop
> > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >You are ignoring the fact that Parliament voted for the war.
> > >>
> > >> Only because:
> > >> 1) the majority in Parliament are as corrupt as he is
> > >> 2) he lied to us about extra evidence that we couldn't see as it was
> > >> classified.
> > >>
> > >
> > >Of course it was classified, they knew full well what weapons Iraq had,
> > >on account of the fact we sold him them!!!
> >
> > Well who sold them the t72 tanks, and S.A.M.S , der? was it the Soviet
> Union?
> I can't remember anyone metioning Iraqui Challenger or Abraham Tanks, F14,
> 15 or Tornado jets.
> Or Iraqui ground forces using SLR's or SL80's.
>
> Get real for fukts sake
> Their whole armed forces were based on the Soviet model.
> Anyone with exprience of B.O.A.R. will tell you the same.

They got a lot of weapons from the Soviet Union, 47% in 1989. They also
got a lot from France, 27% including Mirage and Super Etendard planes
and Exorcet missiles.

The British and Americans mainly supplied them with the weapons of mass
destruction.

http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/02.20.03/iraq-0308.html

--
ô
õçîd

 

[dinky doo]

"fred" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Saturday, in article <[email protected]>
> [email protected] "dinky doo" wrote:
>
> > "King Queen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 15:15:08 +0100, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >In article <[email protected]>,
> > > >[email protected] says...
> > > >> On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 11:30:08 +0100, Dave Fawthrop
> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >You are ignoring the fact that Parliament voted for the war.
> > > >>
> > > >> Only because:
> > > >> 1) the majority in Parliament are as corrupt as he is
> > > >> 2) he lied to us about extra evidence that we couldn't see as it
was
> > > >> classified.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >Of course it was classified, they knew full well what weapons Iraq
had,
> > > >on account of the fact we sold him them!!!
> > >
> > > Well who sold them the t72 tanks, and S.A.M.S , der? was it the
Soviet
> > Union?
> > I can't remember anyone metioning Iraqui Challenger or Abraham Tanks,
F14,
> > 15 or Tornado jets.
> > Or Iraqui ground forces using SLR's or SL80's.
> >
> > Get real for fukts sake
> > Their whole armed forces were based on the Soviet model.
> > Anyone with exprience of B.O.A.R. will tell you the same.
>
> They got a lot of weapons from the Soviet Union, 47% in 1989. They also
> got a lot from France, 27% including Mirage and Super Etendard planes
> and Exorcet missiles.
>
> The British and Americans mainly supplied them with the weapons of mass
> destruction.

BOLLOCKS!!!!


As the people who are out there now not the fuckin Guardian.

YOU ALL MAKE ME PUKE





Tommy

 

[Mike Roebuck]

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:15:06 +0100, [email protected] (fred)
wrote:



>
>The British and Americans mainly supplied them with the weapons of mass
>destruction.
>
>http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/02.20.03/iraq-0308.html

Interesting . I know an English guy who works for one of the U.S firms
on that list.

I've seen some of the photos he took in Iraq not long after the
"official" war stopped. I hasten to add that his work is in no way
related with weapons production, but I find it interesting all the
same.


--
Regards

Mike

mikedotroebuckatgmxdotnet

 

[fred]

On Sunday, in article
<[email protected]>
[email protected] "Mike Roebuck" wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:15:06 +0100, [email protected] (fred)
> wrote:
>
> >The British and Americans mainly supplied them with the weapons of mass
> >destruction.
> >
> >http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/02.20.03/iraq-0308.html
>
> Interesting . I know an English guy who works for one of the U.S firms
> on that list.
>
> I've seen some of the photos he took in Iraq not long after the
> "official" war stopped. I hasten to add that his work is in no way
> related with weapons production, but I find it interesting all the
> same.

I find it extremely worrying. We live in a society which is becoming
more and more oppressed as more and more laws are made to control
our lives and the state uses modern technology to ensure no one has
any option but to be so sqeaky clean that their farts don't smell.
While the state itself has decided it can do anything it likes, no
matter how illegal or immoral.

The Israeli barrier is an example, the highest court in the world has
declared it illegal yet the self appointed police force of the world
will do nothing about it and will prevent anyone else from doing
anything about it.

A state where the police have set themselves above the judiciary is
called a police state, the world is a police state.

--
ô
õçîd

 

[dinky doo]

"fred" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Saturday, in article <[email protected]>
> [email protected] "dinky doo" wrote:
>
> > "King Queen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 15:15:08 +0100, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >In article <[email protected]>,
> > > >[email protected] says...
> > > >> On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 11:30:08 +0100, Dave Fawthrop
> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >You are ignoring the fact that Parliament voted for the war.
> > > >>
> > > >> Only because:
> > > >> 1) the majority in Parliament are as corrupt as he is
> > > >> 2) he lied to us about extra evidence that we couldn't see as it
was
> > > >> classified.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >Of course it was classified, they knew full well what weapons Iraq
had,
> > > >on account of the fact we sold him them!!!
> > >
> > > Well who sold them the t72 tanks, and S.A.M.S , der? was it the
Soviet
> > Union?
> > I can't remember anyone metioning Iraqui Challenger or Abraham Tanks,
F14,
> > 15 or Tornado jets.
> > Or Iraqui ground forces using SLR's or SL80's.
> >
> > Get real for fukts sake
> > Their whole armed forces were based on the Soviet model.
> > Anyone with exprience of B.O.A.R. will tell you the same.
>
> They got a lot of weapons from the Soviet Union, 47% in 1989. They also
> got a lot from France, 27% including Mirage and Super Etendard planes
> and Exorcet missiles.
>
> The British and Americans mainly supplied them with the weapons of mass
> destruction.

BOLLOCKS!!!!


As the people who are out there now not the fuckin Guardian.

YOU ALL MAKE ME PUKE





Tommy

 

[Mike Roebuck]

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:15:06 +0100, [email protected] (fred)
wrote:



>
>The British and Americans mainly supplied them with the weapons of mass
>destruction.
>
>http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/02.20.03/iraq-0308.html

Interesting . I know an English guy who works for one of the U.S firms
on that list.

I've seen some of the photos he took in Iraq not long after the
"official" war stopped. I hasten to add that his work is in no way
related with weapons production, but I find it interesting all the
same.


--
Regards

Mike

mikedotroebuckatgmxdotnet

 

[fred]

On Sunday, in article
<[email protected]>
[email protected] "Mike Roebuck" wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:15:06 +0100, [email protected] (fred)
> wrote:
>
> >The British and Americans mainly supplied them with the weapons of mass
> >destruction.
> >
> >http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/02.20.03/iraq-0308.html
>
> Interesting . I know an English guy who works for one of the U.S firms
> on that list.
>
> I've seen some of the photos he took in Iraq not long after the
> "official" war stopped. I hasten to add that his work is in no way
> related with weapons production, but I find it interesting all the
> same.

I find it extremely worrying. We live in a society which is becoming
more and more oppressed as more and more laws are made to control
our lives and the state uses modern technology to ensure no one has
any option but to be so sqeaky clean that their farts don't smell.
While the state itself has decided it can do anything it likes, no
matter how illegal or immoral.

The Israeli barrier is an example, the highest court in the world has
declared it illegal yet the self appointed police force of the world
will do nothing about it and will prevent anyone else from doing
anything about it.

A state where the police have set themselves above the judiciary is
called a police state, the world is a police state.

--
ô
õçîd

 

[dinky doo]

"fred" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Saturday, in article <[email protected]>
> [email protected] "dinky doo" wrote:
>
> > "King Queen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 15:15:08 +0100, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >In article <[email protected]>,
> > > >[email protected] says...
> > > >> On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 11:30:08 +0100, Dave Fawthrop
> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >You are ignoring the fact that Parliament voted for the war.
> > > >>
> > > >> Only because:
> > > >> 1) the majority in Parliament are as corrupt as he is
> > > >> 2) he lied to us about extra evidence that we couldn't see as it
was
> > > >> classified.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >Of course it was classified, they knew full well what weapons Iraq
had,
> > > >on account of the fact we sold him them!!!
> > >
> > > Well who sold them the t72 tanks, and S.A.M.S , der? was it the
Soviet
> > Union?
> > I can't remember anyone metioning Iraqui Challenger or Abraham Tanks,
F14,
> > 15 or Tornado jets.
> > Or Iraqui ground forces using SLR's or SL80's.
> >
> > Get real for fukts sake
> > Their whole armed forces were based on the Soviet model.
> > Anyone with exprience of B.O.A.R. will tell you the same.
>
> They got a lot of weapons from the Soviet Union, 47% in 1989. They also
> got a lot from France, 27% including Mirage and Super Etendard planes
> and Exorcet missiles.
>
> The British and Americans mainly supplied them with the weapons of mass
> destruction.

BOLLOCKS!!!!


As the people who are out there now not the fuckin Guardian.

YOU ALL MAKE ME PUKE





Tommy

 

[Mike Roebuck]

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:15:06 +0100, [email protected] (fred)
wrote:



>
>The British and Americans mainly supplied them with the weapons of mass
>destruction.
>
>http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/02.20.03/iraq-0308.html

Interesting . I know an English guy who works for one of the U.S firms
on that list.

I've seen some of the photos he took in Iraq not long after the
"official" war stopped. I hasten to add that his work is in no way
related with weapons production, but I find it interesting all the
same.


--
Regards

Mike

mikedotroebuckatgmxdotnet

 

[fred]

On Sunday, in article
<[email protected]>
[email protected] "Mike Roebuck" wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:15:06 +0100, [email protected] (fred)
> wrote:
>
> >The British and Americans mainly supplied them with the weapons of mass
> >destruction.
> >
> >http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/02.20.03/iraq-0308.html
>
> Interesting . I know an English guy who works for one of the U.S firms
> on that list.
>
> I've seen some of the photos he took in Iraq not long after the
> "official" war stopped. I hasten to add that his work is in no way
> related with weapons production, but I find it interesting all the
> same.

I find it extremely worrying. We live in a society which is becoming
more and more oppressed as more and more laws are made to control
our lives and the state uses modern technology to ensure no one has
any option but to be so sqeaky clean that their farts don't smell.
While the state itself has decided it can do anything it likes, no
matter how illegal or immoral.

The Israeli barrier is an example, the highest court in the world has
declared it illegal yet the self appointed police force of the world
will do nothing about it and will prevent anyone else from doing
anything about it.

A state where the police have set themselves above the judiciary is
called a police state, the world is a police state.

--
ô
õçîd

 

[dinky doo]

"fred" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Saturday, in article <[email protected]>
> [email protected] "dinky doo" wrote:
>
> > "King Queen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 15:15:08 +0100, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >In article <[email protected]>,
> > > >[email protected] says...
> > > >> On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 11:30:08 +0100, Dave Fawthrop
> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >You are ignoring the fact that Parliament voted for the war.
> > > >>
> > > >> Only because:
> > > >> 1) the majority in Parliament are as corrupt as he is
> > > >> 2) he lied to us about extra evidence that we couldn't see as it
was
> > > >> classified.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >Of course it was classified, they knew full well what weapons Iraq
had,
> > > >on account of the fact we sold him them!!!
> > >
> > > Well who sold them the t72 tanks, and S.A.M.S , der? was it the
Soviet
> > Union?
> > I can't remember anyone metioning Iraqui Challenger or Abraham Tanks,
F14,
> > 15 or Tornado jets.
> > Or Iraqui ground forces using SLR's or SL80's.
> >
> > Get real for fukts sake
> > Their whole armed forces were based on the Soviet model.
> > Anyone with exprience of B.O.A.R. will tell you the same.
>
> They got a lot of weapons from the Soviet Union, 47% in 1989. They also
> got a lot from France, 27% including Mirage and Super Etendard planes
> and Exorcet missiles.
>
> The British and Americans mainly supplied them with the weapons of mass
> destruction.

BOLLOCKS!!!!


As the people who are out there now not the fuckin Guardian.

YOU ALL MAKE ME PUKE





Tommy

 

[Mike Roebuck]

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:15:06 +0100, [email protected] (fred)
wrote:



>
>The British and Americans mainly supplied them with the weapons of mass
>destruction.
>
>http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/02.20.03/iraq-0308.html

Interesting . I know an English guy who works for one of the U.S firms
on that list.

I've seen some of the photos he took in Iraq not long after the
"official" war stopped. I hasten to add that his work is in no way
related with weapons production, but I find it interesting all the
same.


--
Regards

Mike

mikedotroebuckatgmxdotnet

 

[fred]

On Sunday, in article
<[email protected]>
[email protected] "Mike Roebuck" wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:15:06 +0100, [email protected] (fred)
> wrote:
>
> >The British and Americans mainly supplied them with the weapons of mass
> >destruction.
> >
> >http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/02.20.03/iraq-0308.html
>
> Interesting . I know an English guy who works for one of the U.S firms
> on that list.
>
> I've seen some of the photos he took in Iraq not long after the
> "official" war stopped. I hasten to add that his work is in no way
> related with weapons production, but I find it interesting all the
> same.

I find it extremely worrying. We live in a society which is becoming
more and more oppressed as more and more laws are made to control
our lives and the state uses modern technology to ensure no one has
any option but to be so sqeaky clean that their farts don't smell.
While the state itself has decided it can do anything it likes, no
matter how illegal or immoral.

The Israeli barrier is an example, the highest court in the world has
declared it illegal yet the self appointed police force of the world
will do nothing about it and will prevent anyone else from doing
anything about it.

A state where the police have set themselves above the judiciary is
called a police state, the world is a police state.

--
ô
õçîd

 

[dinky doo]

"fred" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Saturday, in article <[email protected]>
> [email protected] "dinky doo" wrote:
>
> > "King Queen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 15:15:08 +0100, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >In article <[email protected]>,
> > > >[email protected] says...
> > > >> On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 11:30:08 +0100, Dave Fawthrop
> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >You are ignoring the fact that Parliament voted for the war.
> > > >>
> > > >> Only because:
> > > >> 1) the majority in Parliament are as corrupt as he is
> > > >> 2) he lied to us about extra evidence that we couldn't see as it
was
> > > >> classified.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >Of course it was classified, they knew full well what weapons Iraq
had,
> > > >on account of the fact we sold him them!!!
> > >
> > > Well who sold them the t72 tanks, and S.A.M.S , der? was it the
Soviet
> > Union?
> > I can't remember anyone metioning Iraqui Challenger or Abraham Tanks,
F14,
> > 15 or Tornado jets.
> > Or Iraqui ground forces using SLR's or SL80's.
> >
> > Get real for fukts sake
> > Their whole armed forces were based on the Soviet model.
> > Anyone with exprience of B.O.A.R. will tell you the same.
>
> They got a lot of weapons from the Soviet Union, 47% in 1989. They also
> got a lot from France, 27% including Mirage and Super Etendard planes
> and Exorcet missiles.
>
> The British and Americans mainly supplied them with the weapons of mass
> destruction.

BOLLOCKS!!!!


As the people who are out there now not the fuckin Guardian.

YOU ALL MAKE ME PUKE





Tommy

 

[Mike Roebuck]

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:15:06 +0100, [email protected] (fred)
wrote:



>
>The British and Americans mainly supplied them with the weapons of mass
>destruction.
>
>http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/02.20.03/iraq-0308.html

Interesting . I know an English guy who works for one of the U.S firms
on that list.

I've seen some of the photos he took in Iraq not long after the
"official" war stopped. I hasten to add that his work is in no way
related with weapons production, but I find it interesting all the
same.


--
Regards

Mike

mikedotroebuckatgmxdotnet

 

[fred]

On Sunday, in article
<[email protected]>
[email protected] "Mike Roebuck" wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:15:06 +0100, [email protected] (fred)
> wrote:
>
> >The British and Americans mainly supplied them with the weapons of mass
> >destruction.
> >
> >http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/02.20.03/iraq-0308.html
>
> Interesting . I know an English guy who works for one of the U.S firms
> on that list.
>
> I've seen some of the photos he took in Iraq not long after the
> "official" war stopped. I hasten to add that his work is in no way
> related with weapons production, but I find it interesting all the
> same.

I find it extremely worrying. We live in a society which is becoming
more and more oppressed as more and more laws are made to control
our lives and the state uses modern technology to ensure no one has
any option but to be so sqeaky clean that their farts don't smell.
While the state itself has decided it can do anything it likes, no
matter how illegal or immoral.

The Israeli barrier is an example, the highest court in the world has
declared it illegal yet the self appointed police force of the world
will do nothing about it and will prevent anyone else from doing
anything about it.

A state where the police have set themselves above the judiciary is
called a police state, the world is a police state.

--
ô
õçîd

 

[dinky doo]

"fred" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Saturday, in article <[email protected]>
> [email protected] "dinky doo" wrote:
>
> > "King Queen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 15:15:08 +0100, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >In article <[email protected]>,
> > > >[email protected] says...
> > > >> On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 11:30:08 +0100, Dave Fawthrop
> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >You are ignoring the fact that Parliament voted for the war.
> > > >>
> > > >> Only because:
> > > >> 1) the majority in Parliament are as corrupt as he is
> > > >> 2) he lied to us about extra evidence that we couldn't see as it
was
> > > >> classified.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >Of course it was classified, they knew full well what weapons Iraq
had,
> > > >on account of the fact we sold him them!!!
> > >
> > > Well who sold them the t72 tanks, and S.A.M.S , der? was it the
Soviet
> > Union?
> > I can't remember anyone metioning Iraqui Challenger or Abraham Tanks,
F14,
> > 15 or Tornado jets.
> > Or Iraqui ground forces using SLR's or SL80's.
> >
> > Get real for fukts sake
> > Their whole armed forces were based on the Soviet model.
> > Anyone with exprience of B.O.A.R. will tell you the same.
>
> They got a lot of weapons from the Soviet Union, 47% in 1989. They also
> got a lot from France, 27% including Mirage and Super Etendard planes
> and Exorcet missiles.
>
> The British and Americans mainly supplied them with the weapons of mass
> destruction.

BOLLOCKS!!!!


As the people who are out there now not the fuckin Guardian.

YOU ALL MAKE ME PUKE





Tommy

 

[Mike Roebuck]

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:15:06 +0100, [email protected] (fred)
wrote:



>
>The British and Americans mainly supplied them with the weapons of mass
>destruction.
>
>http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/02.20.03/iraq-0308.html

Interesting . I know an English guy who works for one of the U.S firms
on that list.

I've seen some of the photos he took in Iraq not long after the
"official" war stopped. I hasten to add that his work is in no way
related with weapons production, but I find it interesting all the
same.


--
Regards

Mike

mikedotroebuckatgmxdotnet

 

[fred]

On Sunday, in article
<[email protected]>
[email protected] "Mike Roebuck" wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:15:06 +0100, [email protected] (fred)
> wrote:
>
> >The British and Americans mainly supplied them with the weapons of mass
> >destruction.
> >
> >http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/02.20.03/iraq-0308.html
>
> Interesting . I know an English guy who works for one of the U.S firms
> on that list.
>
> I've seen some of the photos he took in Iraq not long after the
> "official" war stopped. I hasten to add that his work is in no way
> related with weapons production, but I find it interesting all the
> same.

I find it extremely worrying. We live in a society which is becoming
more and more oppressed as more and more laws are made to control
our lives and the state uses modern technology to ensure no one has
any option but to be so sqeaky clean that their farts don't smell.
While the state itself has decided it can do anything it likes, no
matter how illegal or immoral.

The Israeli barrier is an example, the highest court in the world has
declared it illegal yet the self appointed police force of the world
will do nothing about it and will prevent anyone else from doing
anything about it.

A state where the police have set themselves above the judiciary is
called a police state, the world is a police state.

--
ô
õçîd