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[email protected] "Dave Fawthrop" wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:45:08 +0100, martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> | On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:25:08 +0100, Dave Fawthrop
> | <[email protected]> wrote:
> |
> | >On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:50:09 +0100, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> | >
> | >
> | >| If your memory needs jogging further, does the 'Iraqi supergun affair'
> | >| ring any bells?
> | >
> | >Jogs my memory.
> | >They have sections of Sadam's Supergun at Royal Armouries, Fort Nelson
> | >http://www.armouries.org.uk/extsite/view.jsp?sectionId=83
> | >We saw them and they are most impressive.
> | >
> | >Because Sadam could plan a ?1?m bore gun to fire at Isreal, I would not put
> | >*anything* past him.
> |
> | Don't you mean that western arms salesmen sold him the idea?
>
> No the story is well known. Gerald Bull a gun designer who had produced
> small scale prototypes got Sadam to build the big one. It was so big that
> you needed the side of a steep valley to build it in, aimed at Israel and
> could not re aimed. Photos are at Fort Nelson.
Gerald Bull was a Canadian, that's west aint it?
The story is well known, both the Managing Director and Export Manager of
Matrix Churchill were recruited by MI6 and asked to supply parts for the
gun to Iraq, export clearance was given by the government.
When the parts were siezed by Customs and Excise Nicholas Ridley the Trade
and Industry Secretary stood in the House of Commons and told a bare faced
lie when he said the government had "only recently become aware" of the
order.
In short both MI6 and the British Government were prepared to let the
managers of Matrix Churchill go to prison for a long time rather than
speak up and admit their involvement.
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[email protected] "Dave Fawthrop" wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:45:08 +0100, martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> | On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:25:08 +0100, Dave Fawthrop
> | <[email protected]> wrote:
> |
> | >On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:50:09 +0100, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> | >
> | >
> | >| If your memory needs jogging further, does the 'Iraqi supergun affair'
> | >| ring any bells?
> | >
> | >Jogs my memory.
> | >They have sections of Sadam's Supergun at Royal Armouries, Fort Nelson
> | >http://www.armouries.org.uk/extsite/view.jsp?sectionId=83
> | >We saw them and they are most impressive.
> | >
> | >Because Sadam could plan a ?1?m bore gun to fire at Isreal, I would not put
> | >*anything* past him.
> |
> | Don't you mean that western arms salesmen sold him the idea?
>
> No the story is well known. Gerald Bull a gun designer who had produced
> small scale prototypes got Sadam to build the big one. It was so big that
> you needed the side of a steep valley to build it in, aimed at Israel and
> could not re aimed. Photos are at Fort Nelson.
Gerald Bull was a Canadian, that's west aint it?
The story is well known, both the Managing Director and Export Manager of
Matrix Churchill were recruited by MI6 and asked to supply parts for the
gun to Iraq, export clearance was given by the government.
When the parts were siezed by Customs and Excise Nicholas Ridley the Trade
and Industry Secretary stood in the House of Commons and told a bare faced
lie when he said the government had "only recently become aware" of the
order.
In short both MI6 and the British Government were prepared to let the
managers of Matrix Churchill go to prison for a long time rather than
speak up and admit their involvement.
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õçîd
