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it must b new man city manager roberto mancini using the the clubs owners money 2 score with british hookers.
I b shocked if it was fergie.
I b shocked if it was fergie.
doubt its Sam he justs had major heart surgery and the excitement would no doubt have killed him
could be his rehab
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THE Premier League manager seen visiting a "Thai" vice den was named last night as Avram Grant.
Speculation raged worldwide after The Sun revealed a top-flight boss spent more than an hour in the seedy massage parlour.
Creeping privacy laws in the UK - based on the Human Rights Act - meant we were barred from naming him last December.
But in the wake of England captain John Terry's failed bid to gag the press over his affair, we can now name Portsmouth chief Grant, who previously managed Terry at Chelsea.
Hampshire Police are investigating the parlour, which is staffed by Asian "massage" girls in Horton Heath, Southampton.
Israeli Grant, 54, has been wed for 16 years to actress Tzofit, 45. They have two children but she did not follow him to England when he moved here.
He faces being quizzed by vice squad officers over his visit to the brothel.
Cops will speak to clients who would be witnesses if anyone is accused of living off immoral earnings.
A police spokesman said: "We are aware allegations have been made in connection with that location." A source close to the inquiry added: "We want to speak to clients who might be potential witnesses."
The revelation is another blow for bottom-of-the-table Portsmouth, who face massive debts and lost 1-0 at Fulham last night.
Speculation raged worldwide after The Sun revealed a top-flight boss spent more than an hour in the seedy massage parlour.
Creeping privacy laws in the UK - based on the Human Rights Act - meant we were barred from naming him last December.
But in the wake of England captain John Terry's failed bid to gag the press over his affair, we can now name Portsmouth chief Grant, who previously managed Terry at Chelsea.
Hampshire Police are investigating the parlour, which is staffed by Asian "massage" girls in Horton Heath, Southampton.
Israeli Grant, 54, has been wed for 16 years to actress Tzofit, 45. They have two children but she did not follow him to England when he moved here.
He faces being quizzed by vice squad officers over his visit to the brothel.
Cops will speak to clients who would be witnesses if anyone is accused of living off immoral earnings.
A police spokesman said: "We are aware allegations have been made in connection with that location." A source close to the inquiry added: "We want to speak to clients who might be potential witnesses."
The revelation is another blow for bottom-of-the-table Portsmouth, who face massive debts and lost 1-0 at Fulham last night.
Typical "Sun" double standards.
In my book, there's a world of difference between a man, separated from his wife, who visits a massage parlour, and what John Terry did.
Discuss.
In my book, there's a world of difference between a man, separated from his wife, who visits a massage parlour, and what John Terry did.
Discuss.
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Try to think of it this way, is there anyone in football who hasn't done the dirty at some point or another, especially in that England team. I remember reading something about the Rio,Dyer,Lampard sex scandal yonks ago, then there's Beckham's supposed affair, Ashley Cole and Jermaine Pennant supposedly, and though nothing to do with football there's Tiger Wood's recent thing as well...point being end of the day should we judge them so harshly because put yourself in that position of having all that fame and fortune and being able to have any woman you want and living the good life, what would you do ?
On the other hand, it's one thing to strip Terry of the England captaincy for this but our previous captain supposedly had an affair and they are more than likely not the only ones in that team and Terry's supposedly the best captain in the squad and that's what it's all about where the captaincy is concerned, on the pitch football matters and who's best for the job on the pitch not off the pitch shenanigans and PR bullshit. Though personally I think Gerrard or Beckham would make better England captains than Terry, both seem to turn it on when the going gets tough, Beckham especially when wearing the England shirt, he's proven that time and time again but has he still got the legs ?
On the other hand, it's one thing to strip Terry of the England captaincy for this but our previous captain supposedly had an affair and they are more than likely not the only ones in that team and Terry's supposedly the best captain in the squad and that's what it's all about where the captaincy is concerned, on the pitch football matters and who's best for the job on the pitch not off the pitch shenanigans and PR bullshit. Though personally I think Gerrard or Beckham would make better England captains than Terry, both seem to turn it on when the going gets tough, Beckham especially when wearing the England shirt, he's proven that time and time again but has he still got the legs ?
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It is completely different, 1 is committing Adultery while the other is just having a nice massage off some Thai wench lol
Everybody saying Terry shouldn't be captain are stupid, who else is going to step in and which players can say they haven't done something which isn't classed as being a ' Role Model '
Raven24
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Exactly, that's what I said, they're all in the same boat now...hence it's all about on the pitch and really what's Terry done since becoming England captain ? I mean besides have an affair. Beckham got us to the World Cup before almost single handedly as captain. I think Gerrard would probably be the best bet if not Beckham because to be honest I don't think Terry's done much as captain and if I remember correctly he had a dodgy World Cup last time out along with quite a few of them. There's at least 3 leaders in that team all more than capable of being England captain including JT, but who is the best of the three ? For me it's either Gerrard or Becks.
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You must have exceptionally low standards mate, under Beckham's captaincy the England team turned into a bit of a media circus with no trophy's in the cabinet. Stevie G, now there's a man who can rise to the occasion, just look at that champions league final performance.
Poor Avram Grant, I feel sorry for him. You can't even get your head rubbed whilst popping out for a Thai, how sad.
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captaincy has nothing to do with team performance. when beckham had it he played with that little extra (go dl some old games). worked his socks off.
its not the captains fault if a better team comes along or the rest of the team play shite,
the trophy comment made me laugh, under beckham what??? you show me where we won jack under any current captain.
captain needs respect and beckham and gerrard would get it and they give a little more when captain.
got to love the club fans backing there own players for captain, lmao x100000
captain dont win you games its a fecking armband at the end of the day and certain players give a little more wearing it.
nothing more nothing less.
its not the captains fault if a better team comes along or the rest of the team play shite,
the trophy comment made me laugh, under beckham what??? you show me where we won jack under any current captain.
captain needs respect and beckham and gerrard would get it and they give a little more when captain.
got to love the club fans backing there own players for captain, lmao x100000
captain dont win you games its a fecking armband at the end of the day and certain players give a little more wearing it.
nothing more nothing less.
Thommo, what about Moore, Beckenbauer, Maradona and Matthäus all were world cup winning captains and very influential players on and off the pitch.
Becks is a loser at the highest level, no amount of individual performances can change that. Being a captain is not about your individual performances anyhow, come this is basic stuff.
Becks is a loser at the highest level, no amount of individual performances can change that. Being a captain is not about your individual performances anyhow, come this is basic stuff.
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your trying to suggest terry can do what beck ect cant? the captain is nothing more than an armband, just because terry isnt captain (if it happens) do you think he will have any less affect? no is the answer.
captains need to be respected, terry cant be now, becks can, even gerrard has had his off the field bust ups.
if a player gives that little bit more with the band then so what? inever said it was the bee all and end all but it dont harm if a player gives a bit more if he has it. its called pride i think but somewhere down the line the english man seems to have had it beaten out of him so im all for someone who hasnt had it removed from them.
respect and pride thats what a captain needs, not skill as if he didnt have some skill then he wouldnt be in the team let alone a captain.
that my opinion and im sticking to it, im not one of these fans who loves there own club player and wont have a bad word said about them.
its not about which player is better at football, its about as said leadership and respect which terry cant command anymore.
oh and for the record im not saying i want becks as captain (hes getting on now) but i am saying hes a better choice than some mentioned in this thread.
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Have to disagree with you Munkey about Becks being a loser he has won every medal a player wants to win except on the International stage, when he plays for England he wears his heart on his sleeve like every player should do but you get the feeling some just turn up.
To have him as captain is a completely different matter, he cannot last 90 minutes every game against top opposition, he just hasn't got the legs anymore even though he wasn't fast in his day he could still do a lot for the team, he is a great player to bring on with 20 minutes left weather you are winning or losing cause he works his socks off for the team.
Terry is the only natural leader IMHO that is in the England starting 11 every game, I would put Barry and Gerrard just behind but with Terry you know what youy are getting he is solid at the back and demands the respect of fellow players which he has now lost due to the him having the affair with another WAG. But I think he will be stronger for that, look at when he started his career, Im sure he was in a rape case with Jody Morris or something similar and he bounced back this will be no different, it could be the thing that spurs him on to win the World Cup
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Becks a loser at the highest level lmao!! Do you not remember the World Cup qualifier and that free kick ?? He's probably the one player that gives 120% when the heat is really on in England matches, in fact England always came first for him when he was at Man U and Fergie always hated that....as thommo said it's all about pride and Becks commands it on the pitch and he has lead by example and he has got the results for us when the chips were down and that's why he commands respect because he has pride and because he gets results. What's Terry command in an England shirt except lots of bellowing ? Because therein lays the difference between a proper captain and just someone with the armband.....and I do think Gerrard would make a great captain.
Yeah the old Lee Bowyer syndrome lol, that's the hope at least, but in all fairness whether or not he's captain shouldn't affect the way he plays. In fact I hope he does get stripped and plays at the WC with a purpose and point to make - because he has a lot of respect to earn back from his teammates especially and the fans....if it's even possible to earn back, but any time a footballer has a fire lit under him is always a good thing, look at Becks after the sending off in 98....and Leeds fans will remember Bowyer in the Champions League way back when during that court case, so it's been proven in the past and I hope JT repeats it at the WC no matter what happens regarding his captaincy.
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Considering that the tournament happens every fours and we last won it in '66 that list is as good as it gets.
I didn't suggest that, I explicitly stated Becks was a shit captain, nothing more nothing less.
Not sure what you're suggesting but I'm a Hammers fan. If anything I should be anti Gerrard but I'm not, I respect him as a player because he deserves it.
He's a disgrace to the England shirt, the first English player to be red carded twice and the first ever English captain to be sent off, is that what you call wearing his heart on his sleeve?
That's your opinion and I respect that, although having a cwiminal as England captain can't be too clever
You're dead right, look at all of these amazing goals he amassed during a glittering career. The opposition was of the highest order.
He must be the dead ball specialist as well, I mean he only missed two vital penalties in world cup shoot outs. That takes some specialism from the dead ball specialist. Face it mate, average Germans are better at placing a dead ball in the back of the net from 12 yards, our golden boy is only golden to those that have no idea what winning is all about.
Anyway all of this has nothing to do with visiting Thai prostitutes unless you're suggesting they were dead ball specialists as well, lets face it they're even money to score from 12 yards, better odds than golden bollocks.
