wrecked rom 10

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hey up lads. right i scrapped a rom 10 a bit ago and after many posts on here came to the conclusion with the aid of you lot its become an ice scraper... well as its winter i've found the image i wrote to it.so befor i scrape my car with it does anyone fancy a nosey at the image for me and see if there might be a way around it?????? only if you're bored on these cold winter nights.. i've tried but i'm still a bit of a novice.....
 

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Post the image up - i'm sure someone might be interested in taking a look at it. If its just a blocker program most of them have a backdoor in that can be worked out fairly easily.
 

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see what you can make of that mate... i no what i did wrong ... but like i said i was still learning...
 

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Hi
You have different bd keys ok
To use nagra they must all be the same
This is a common problem
Dont know who told u it was a ice scrapper
But i think they maybe wrong
Ice scrapper cards at the mom have no atr
Back to the prob you need to use rom studio
with that prog it only asks 4 1 bd key
Check out my tut its covered in there
Your bd keys are lines c070 and c040
So use rom studio and use this bd key
.
B489BBB2C8C183454A04A28304F0587E
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Dont forget to check the tut though
cos rom studio only works when setup correctly
 

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What was the original problem???
What you just posted (half a bin file) tells us nothing apart from it being a rom10 A16 and that BDs are intact and Bugcatchers are set to 05?? But Nipper log in line is so wrong”!! C0A0: 42 05 45 92 A8 8A 82 91 22 A4 42 52 0B 59 and many other things like eeprom revision

Just by looking at that bit of info it looks like Ice scraper
never the less Try to read card and tell or post the problem
 
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crackerchalk said:
Hi
You have different bd keys ok
To use nagra they must all be the same

This is a common problem
Dont know who told u it was a ice scrapper
But i think they maybe wrong
Ice scrapper cards at the mom have no atr
Back to the prob you need to use rom studio
with that prog it only asks 4 1 bd key
Check out my tut its covered in there
Your bd keys are lines c070 and c040
So use rom studio and use this bd key
.
B489BBB2C8C183454A04A28304F0587E
.
Dont forget to check the tut though
cos rom studio only works when setup correctly

Can you elaborate about reading Bds with nagra?????

You have different bd keys ok
To use nagra they must all be the same


I don’t understand what you mean with the above unless you mean the other way round”!
 

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irratic said:
C000: 52 61 72 21 1A 07 00 CF 90 73 00 00 0D 00 00 00 | Rar!...Ï.s......
C010: 00 00 00 00 1B CF 74 20 90 3D 00 22 03 00 00 00 | .....Ït .=."....
C020: 20 00 00 02 80 DC 5A D6 48 BE 97 32 1D 33 18 00 | ...€ÜZÖH¾—2.3..
C030: 20 00 00 00 4E 54 4C 20 52 65 76 20 41 31 36 20 | ...NTL Rev A16
..............<snip>

No idea what that is but its certainly not a nagra image file !
Judging by the Rar header I would guess its some kind of archive file.

If you've written that to a card then you've pretty much killed it due to writing the 05 to address $C0A1. This location is the bugcatcher count and the card will not tolerate it being anything other than 0 or divisible by 4 (ie 00, 04, 08, 0C, 10 etc). Also pretty much most of the other critical structures have been overwritten with garbage.
 
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crackerchalk said:
Hi
You have different bd keys ok
To use nagra they must all be the same

What ?
Actually there is no reason to ever change the backdoor keys from the original on the card. Changing them achieves precisely nothing !

This is a common problem
Dont know who told u it was a ice scrapper
But i think they maybe wrong

Well, as I reckon he's written a compressed Rar file to the card its pretty much dead. In theory it could be glitched (as can most no ATR cards) but doubtful if it could be done with the kind of equipment that hobbyists use !
 

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Thanks very much 4 correcting me
Just checked a few images
and have learnt something today
I now think you are right nozzer
and bow out gracefully : whip :
 

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sorry folks .only just got back on line ... so not had chance to try rom studio yet.. so what you saying? is it scrap or not? but ye you are dead right, it was my first card i did and yes i wrote the file in rar to it.. you learn by your mistakes.
 

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ha ha. just had a quick go with rom studio (dump in nagra) this is what i got
Card ID: FC
Using BD0 Password: B489BBB2C8C183454A04A28304F0587E
PROVIDER ID: 1
 

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Hi again
As i said before i bow out gracefully
After what nozzer said i realised what u had done
I doubt if rom studio worked
I think your only chance is glitching
which prob wont work either
Well at least u have learnt to unpack
before u settle down in the hotel
 
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