dream box is another room, yeah I could stream from it to a laptop connected to the LCD in the spare room, or one of them HDMI senders (I looked at in the capture thread) really the spare room is just for kicking back, so I could walk into the lounge and watch TV from there, was just thinking of a free sat HDMI, I have a PS3 as a media player in there, and I could all ways stick in a 360 and get the dream box working on it that way but it's a lot of faff on, that's when I thought it be handy for a free view recorder in there for the odd TV episode record, saying that though, might as well just grab them off a torrent or a newsgroup and stream them back via the PS3.....just bored I guess...lol