Tributes, are they allowed? The guy was a Yorkshireman.

[Ian D]

Re: ex-pat tractor

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:15:05 +0000, [email protected] wrote:

>On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 19:50:04 +0000, [email protected] (fred) wrote:
>
>>Good bikes the Panther, fired once per lamppost.
>
>Indeed : )
>
>The pillion seat was amazingly high -

So was the rider's. One of the lads I worked with had a Panther,
although I seem to recall it was the 650 single - made in Cleckheaton
incidentally. His method of dismounting was to decide which way the
bike was going to fall when he stopped, and jump off that side before
it did. He usually got it right.

He persevered with it for a fair while, but eventually got rid when it
broke his ankle. Not the dismounting bit, but the kickstart. They had
a decompression lever to make it easier to kick over, and one morning
he forget to use it. When it fired the recoil on the pedal threw him
over the bike.

Cheers
Ian D

 

[timr]

Re: ex-pat tractor

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 11:25:04 +0000, martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >How about this for nostalgia http://www.vintagebike.co.uk/Sounds.htm
>
> Gawd that takes me back. I remember Geoff Duke forsaking Norton
> for Gilera in the fifties and first seeing (or more specifically hearing)
> them on Oliver's Mount in Scarborough.
>
> The old boys didn't consider them proper bikes at all and were quite
> perplexed when Duke and Dickie Dale kept coming in one two : )
>
> derek

Nice circuit, Olivers Mount. I can remember sliding off my old CB200
there, smashing my pride & joy to bits. Cadwell Park anyone?
They used to run a practice day there..as long as you had one piece leathers
and an ACU approved helmet, you could thrash your bike round the track.

Happy days indeed.

Olivers Mount, If you want to see some old bikes racing I went & watched
the hillclimb there a few years ago. mmh.. Castrol R !

Tim

 

[timr]

Re: ex-pat tractor

"Ian D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 19:45:04 +0000, [email protected] (fred)
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Nice little bikes the Tiger Cub, much better than a Bantam. Not as
> >good as a C15 though.
>
> My first bike was Tiger Cub (Trial version). Like you say a nice
> little bike, but very prone to big-end failure, and the integral
> gearbox made it a bit of a sod to work on till you got used to it.
> Which didn't take long, given the regular nature of bearing
> replacements. I got an engine strip down and rebuild down to under two
> hours before I thought "sod this" and bought an AJS 350 single.
> That one lasted a couple of years, then I got an Enfield 500 Bullet.
> Nice bike, but the one I really lusted for was the BSA Gold Star.
> The only thing I've ever ridden that came anywhere near it was the AJS
> 7R.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D

Re. Tiger cub, I got the Alpha big end roller conversion for mine, from
Syd Smiths, here in Sheffield. (Les & his missus have retired to the
Isle of Man, but the 3rd generation stil work there!)

Incidentally, My Dad gave me a bollocking when I bought the Tiger Cub.
He said they were rubbish. But looking back, He used to swear by BSA.

A10.A7..pre unit construction anyone? His used to piss oil out of every
pore. Damn sieves. Red Adair could'nt fix these.

Tim

 

[timr]

Re: ex-pat tractor

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 11:25:04 +0000, martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >How about this for nostalgia http://www.vintagebike.co.uk/Sounds.htm
>
> Gawd that takes me back. I remember Geoff Duke forsaking Norton
> for Gilera in the fifties and first seeing (or more specifically hearing)
> them on Oliver's Mount in Scarborough.
>
> The old boys didn't consider them proper bikes at all and were quite
> perplexed when Duke and Dickie Dale kept coming in one two : )
>
> derek

Nice circuit, Olivers Mount. I can remember sliding off my old CB200
there, smashing my pride & joy to bits. Cadwell Park anyone?
They used to run a practice day there..as long as you had one piece leathers
and an ACU approved helmet, you could thrash your bike round the track.

Happy days indeed.

Olivers Mount, If you want to see some old bikes racing I went & watched
the hillclimb there a few years ago. mmh.. Castrol R !

Tim

 

[timr]

Re: ex-pat tractor

"Ian D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 19:45:04 +0000, [email protected] (fred)
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Nice little bikes the Tiger Cub, much better than a Bantam. Not as
> >good as a C15 though.
>
> My first bike was Tiger Cub (Trial version). Like you say a nice
> little bike, but very prone to big-end failure, and the integral
> gearbox made it a bit of a sod to work on till you got used to it.
> Which didn't take long, given the regular nature of bearing
> replacements. I got an engine strip down and rebuild down to under two
> hours before I thought "sod this" and bought an AJS 350 single.
> That one lasted a couple of years, then I got an Enfield 500 Bullet.
> Nice bike, but the one I really lusted for was the BSA Gold Star.
> The only thing I've ever ridden that came anywhere near it was the AJS
> 7R.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D

Re. Tiger cub, I got the Alpha big end roller conversion for mine, from
Syd Smiths, here in Sheffield. (Les & his missus have retired to the
Isle of Man, but the 3rd generation stil work there!)

Incidentally, My Dad gave me a bollocking when I bought the Tiger Cub.
He said they were rubbish. But looking back, He used to swear by BSA.

A10.A7..pre unit construction anyone? His used to piss oil out of every
pore. Damn sieves. Red Adair could'nt fix these.

Tim

 

[timr]

Re: ex-pat tractor

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 11:25:04 +0000, martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >How about this for nostalgia http://www.vintagebike.co.uk/Sounds.htm
>
> Gawd that takes me back. I remember Geoff Duke forsaking Norton
> for Gilera in the fifties and first seeing (or more specifically hearing)
> them on Oliver's Mount in Scarborough.
>
> The old boys didn't consider them proper bikes at all and were quite
> perplexed when Duke and Dickie Dale kept coming in one two : )
>
> derek

Nice circuit, Olivers Mount. I can remember sliding off my old CB200
there, smashing my pride & joy to bits. Cadwell Park anyone?
They used to run a practice day there..as long as you had one piece leathers
and an ACU approved helmet, you could thrash your bike round the track.

Happy days indeed.

Olivers Mount, If you want to see some old bikes racing I went & watched
the hillclimb there a few years ago. mmh.. Castrol R !

Tim

 

[timr]

Re: ex-pat tractor

"Ian D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 19:45:04 +0000, [email protected] (fred)
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Nice little bikes the Tiger Cub, much better than a Bantam. Not as
> >good as a C15 though.
>
> My first bike was Tiger Cub (Trial version). Like you say a nice
> little bike, but very prone to big-end failure, and the integral
> gearbox made it a bit of a sod to work on till you got used to it.
> Which didn't take long, given the regular nature of bearing
> replacements. I got an engine strip down and rebuild down to under two
> hours before I thought "sod this" and bought an AJS 350 single.
> That one lasted a couple of years, then I got an Enfield 500 Bullet.
> Nice bike, but the one I really lusted for was the BSA Gold Star.
> The only thing I've ever ridden that came anywhere near it was the AJS
> 7R.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D

Re. Tiger cub, I got the Alpha big end roller conversion for mine, from
Syd Smiths, here in Sheffield. (Les & his missus have retired to the
Isle of Man, but the 3rd generation stil work there!)

Incidentally, My Dad gave me a bollocking when I bought the Tiger Cub.
He said they were rubbish. But looking back, He used to swear by BSA.

A10.A7..pre unit construction anyone? His used to piss oil out of every
pore. Damn sieves. Red Adair could'nt fix these.

Tim

 

[timr]

Re: ex-pat tractor

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 11:25:04 +0000, martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >How about this for nostalgia http://www.vintagebike.co.uk/Sounds.htm
>
> Gawd that takes me back. I remember Geoff Duke forsaking Norton
> for Gilera in the fifties and first seeing (or more specifically hearing)
> them on Oliver's Mount in Scarborough.
>
> The old boys didn't consider them proper bikes at all and were quite
> perplexed when Duke and Dickie Dale kept coming in one two : )
>
> derek

Nice circuit, Olivers Mount. I can remember sliding off my old CB200
there, smashing my pride & joy to bits. Cadwell Park anyone?
They used to run a practice day there..as long as you had one piece leathers
and an ACU approved helmet, you could thrash your bike round the track.

Happy days indeed.

Olivers Mount, If you want to see some old bikes racing I went & watched
the hillclimb there a few years ago. mmh.. Castrol R !

Tim

 

[timr]

Re: ex-pat tractor

"Ian D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 19:45:04 +0000, [email protected] (fred)
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Nice little bikes the Tiger Cub, much better than a Bantam. Not as
> >good as a C15 though.
>
> My first bike was Tiger Cub (Trial version). Like you say a nice
> little bike, but very prone to big-end failure, and the integral
> gearbox made it a bit of a sod to work on till you got used to it.
> Which didn't take long, given the regular nature of bearing
> replacements. I got an engine strip down and rebuild down to under two
> hours before I thought "sod this" and bought an AJS 350 single.
> That one lasted a couple of years, then I got an Enfield 500 Bullet.
> Nice bike, but the one I really lusted for was the BSA Gold Star.
> The only thing I've ever ridden that came anywhere near it was the AJS
> 7R.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D

Re. Tiger cub, I got the Alpha big end roller conversion for mine, from
Syd Smiths, here in Sheffield. (Les & his missus have retired to the
Isle of Man, but the 3rd generation stil work there!)

Incidentally, My Dad gave me a bollocking when I bought the Tiger Cub.
He said they were rubbish. But looking back, He used to swear by BSA.

A10.A7..pre unit construction anyone? His used to piss oil out of every
pore. Damn sieves. Red Adair could'nt fix these.

Tim

 

[timr]

Re: ex-pat tractor

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 11:25:04 +0000, martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >How about this for nostalgia http://www.vintagebike.co.uk/Sounds.htm
>
> Gawd that takes me back. I remember Geoff Duke forsaking Norton
> for Gilera in the fifties and first seeing (or more specifically hearing)
> them on Oliver's Mount in Scarborough.
>
> The old boys didn't consider them proper bikes at all and were quite
> perplexed when Duke and Dickie Dale kept coming in one two : )
>
> derek

Nice circuit, Olivers Mount. I can remember sliding off my old CB200
there, smashing my pride & joy to bits. Cadwell Park anyone?
They used to run a practice day there..as long as you had one piece leathers
and an ACU approved helmet, you could thrash your bike round the track.

Happy days indeed.

Olivers Mount, If you want to see some old bikes racing I went & watched
the hillclimb there a few years ago. mmh.. Castrol R !

Tim

 

[timr]

Re: ex-pat tractor

"Ian D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 19:45:04 +0000, [email protected] (fred)
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Nice little bikes the Tiger Cub, much better than a Bantam. Not as
> >good as a C15 though.
>
> My first bike was Tiger Cub (Trial version). Like you say a nice
> little bike, but very prone to big-end failure, and the integral
> gearbox made it a bit of a sod to work on till you got used to it.
> Which didn't take long, given the regular nature of bearing
> replacements. I got an engine strip down and rebuild down to under two
> hours before I thought "sod this" and bought an AJS 350 single.
> That one lasted a couple of years, then I got an Enfield 500 Bullet.
> Nice bike, but the one I really lusted for was the BSA Gold Star.
> The only thing I've ever ridden that came anywhere near it was the AJS
> 7R.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D

Re. Tiger cub, I got the Alpha big end roller conversion for mine, from
Syd Smiths, here in Sheffield. (Les & his missus have retired to the
Isle of Man, but the 3rd generation stil work there!)

Incidentally, My Dad gave me a bollocking when I bought the Tiger Cub.
He said they were rubbish. But looking back, He used to swear by BSA.

A10.A7..pre unit construction anyone? His used to piss oil out of every
pore. Damn sieves. Red Adair could'nt fix these.

Tim

 

[timr]

Re: ex-pat tractor

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 11:25:04 +0000, martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >How about this for nostalgia http://www.vintagebike.co.uk/Sounds.htm
>
> Gawd that takes me back. I remember Geoff Duke forsaking Norton
> for Gilera in the fifties and first seeing (or more specifically hearing)
> them on Oliver's Mount in Scarborough.
>
> The old boys didn't consider them proper bikes at all and were quite
> perplexed when Duke and Dickie Dale kept coming in one two : )
>
> derek

Nice circuit, Olivers Mount. I can remember sliding off my old CB200
there, smashing my pride & joy to bits. Cadwell Park anyone?
They used to run a practice day there..as long as you had one piece leathers
and an ACU approved helmet, you could thrash your bike round the track.

Happy days indeed.

Olivers Mount, If you want to see some old bikes racing I went & watched
the hillclimb there a few years ago. mmh.. Castrol R !

Tim

 

[timr]

Re: ex-pat tractor

"Ian D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 19:45:04 +0000, [email protected] (fred)
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Nice little bikes the Tiger Cub, much better than a Bantam. Not as
> >good as a C15 though.
>
> My first bike was Tiger Cub (Trial version). Like you say a nice
> little bike, but very prone to big-end failure, and the integral
> gearbox made it a bit of a sod to work on till you got used to it.
> Which didn't take long, given the regular nature of bearing
> replacements. I got an engine strip down and rebuild down to under two
> hours before I thought "sod this" and bought an AJS 350 single.
> That one lasted a couple of years, then I got an Enfield 500 Bullet.
> Nice bike, but the one I really lusted for was the BSA Gold Star.
> The only thing I've ever ridden that came anywhere near it was the AJS
> 7R.
>
> Cheers
> Ian D

Re. Tiger cub, I got the Alpha big end roller conversion for mine, from
Syd Smiths, here in Sheffield. (Les & his missus have retired to the
Isle of Man, but the 3rd generation stil work there!)

Incidentally, My Dad gave me a bollocking when I bought the Tiger Cub.
He said they were rubbish. But looking back, He used to swear by BSA.

A10.A7..pre unit construction anyone? His used to piss oil out of every
pore. Damn sieves. Red Adair could'nt fix these.

Tim

 

[timr]

Re: ex-pat tractor

"martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 08:10:05 +0000, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 22:40:05 +0000, "timr" <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>mmh.. Castrol R !
> >
> >I'm sure caught a whiff of that when I was listening to those old bikes
too.
>
> It's a pity that the French guy, who has a site devoted to his
> restoration of his BSA C11 has removed the sound file.
> His sound file combined with the photos of his bike pre-restoration
> took me back 40 years.
> --
> Martin

We used to listen to an old LP featuring Mike Hailwood on the Honda six
at the Isle of Man in the 60's.
Somewhere amongst my old 45's I have a (it was free with MCN one week)
record featuring Mike again, when he returned on the Ducati.. was it 1979?

Tim

 

[timr]

Re: ex-pat tractor

"martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 08:10:05 +0000, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 22:40:05 +0000, "timr" <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>mmh.. Castrol R !
> >
> >I'm sure caught a whiff of that when I was listening to those old bikes
too.
>
> It's a pity that the French guy, who has a site devoted to his
> restoration of his BSA C11 has removed the sound file.
> His sound file combined with the photos of his bike pre-restoration
> took me back 40 years.
> --
> Martin

We used to listen to an old LP featuring Mike Hailwood on the Honda six
at the Isle of Man in the 60's.
Somewhere amongst my old 45's I have a (it was free with MCN one week)
record featuring Mike again, when he returned on the Ducati.. was it 1979?

Tim

 

[timr]

Re: ex-pat tractor

"martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 08:10:05 +0000, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 22:40:05 +0000, "timr" <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>mmh.. Castrol R !
> >
> >I'm sure caught a whiff of that when I was listening to those old bikes
too.
>
> It's a pity that the French guy, who has a site devoted to his
> restoration of his BSA C11 has removed the sound file.
> His sound file combined with the photos of his bike pre-restoration
> took me back 40 years.
> --
> Martin

We used to listen to an old LP featuring Mike Hailwood on the Honda six
at the Isle of Man in the 60's.
Somewhere amongst my old 45's I have a (it was free with MCN one week)
record featuring Mike again, when he returned on the Ducati.. was it 1979?

Tim

 

[timr]

Re: ex-pat tractor

"martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 08:10:05 +0000, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 22:40:05 +0000, "timr" <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>mmh.. Castrol R !
> >
> >I'm sure caught a whiff of that when I was listening to those old bikes
too.
>
> It's a pity that the French guy, who has a site devoted to his
> restoration of his BSA C11 has removed the sound file.
> His sound file combined with the photos of his bike pre-restoration
> took me back 40 years.
> --
> Martin

We used to listen to an old LP featuring Mike Hailwood on the Honda six
at the Isle of Man in the 60's.
Somewhere amongst my old 45's I have a (it was free with MCN one week)
record featuring Mike again, when he returned on the Ducati.. was it 1979?

Tim

 

[timr]

Re: ex-pat tractor

"martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 08:10:05 +0000, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 22:40:05 +0000, "timr" <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>mmh.. Castrol R !
> >
> >I'm sure caught a whiff of that when I was listening to those old bikes
too.
>
> It's a pity that the French guy, who has a site devoted to his
> restoration of his BSA C11 has removed the sound file.
> His sound file combined with the photos of his bike pre-restoration
> took me back 40 years.
> --
> Martin

We used to listen to an old LP featuring Mike Hailwood on the Honda six
at the Isle of Man in the 60's.
Somewhere amongst my old 45's I have a (it was free with MCN one week)
record featuring Mike again, when he returned on the Ducati.. was it 1979?

Tim

 

[timr]

Re: ex-pat tractor

"martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 08:10:05 +0000, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 22:40:05 +0000, "timr" <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>mmh.. Castrol R !
> >
> >I'm sure caught a whiff of that when I was listening to those old bikes
too.
>
> It's a pity that the French guy, who has a site devoted to his
> restoration of his BSA C11 has removed the sound file.
> His sound file combined with the photos of his bike pre-restoration
> took me back 40 years.
> --
> Martin

We used to listen to an old LP featuring Mike Hailwood on the Honda six
at the Isle of Man in the 60's.
Somewhere amongst my old 45's I have a (it was free with MCN one week)
record featuring Mike again, when he returned on the Ducati.. was it 1979?

Tim