Singing the Hokey Cokey could land football fans in bother

funny i dont give a dam what they sing . its usally dont last long anyway . . the way things are going we will have to sit and clap gently like we are at some opra . ffs its all part of our game.

They'll Only Miss Us Once We've Gone

What is it that Guinness advert proclaims? "All good things come to those who wait". Well the Footballing Authorities may not have to wait too much longer until their transition of the game is complete. To rid the game of the bad and populate it only with the good. No more rowdy behaviour, no more rebels of society daring to stand up and make their feelings known, no more problems.

Their ideals consist of fans turning up every week, queuing to gain entry in an orderly fashion, having booked their tickets 3 months in advance. Entering the stadium and taking their seats, rising only to applaud goals where they dance along to carefully selected music over the PA, before clearing up their litter and disappearing into the countryside until the following weekend. No hassle, no passion, no noise.

As the game I know and love becomes more diluted by the passing year, I often wonder just when the breaking point will come. When will those authorised with sanitising our game realise the error of their ways? Or can they not actually see that they are breaking the very foundations of what has made this sport a success? Pound signs blur their vision, seen all too often in every walk of life. Greed takes over, people want more. They've exhausted the Premier League "brand" and now have visions of taking it further afield; the infamous "Game 39". Translated to you and me, meaning they have milked pretty much every penny they can from the "consumers" in this country, and now want to tap into the pockets of those football hungry consumers overseas. All in the name of expanding the pockets of the shareholders, players and governing bodies of our sport. Our sport, not theirs.

If I rewind 7 or 8 years; I'm leaving the house on a matchday and making my way to Anfield. There was no need to ring around in the morning; I'd just turn up and walk into one of two or three pubs around the ground, and would bump into people I knew. You knew where everyone would drink, and had done for years. The same faces, the people that made this club what it is. I can pop my head into those same pubs now, and I wouldn't recognise a soul. Those long standing supporters have now all but disappeared, replaced by families from all over, decked out in official replica sportswear and taking pictures of anything that moves. There's a smaller crowd of us left and tend to keep out of the way. We don't conform. Those areas around the ground have now been taken over by the new brigade, while the old guard retreat to pastures further afield.

Year after year, more and more people are dropping away. There's still a hardcore of a few hundred that travel everywhere. There's still thousands that go to every home game just like they always have. But it's becoming harder and harder for these people to carry on. Supporters being replaced by consumers. Participants being replaced by spectators. Just how much higher can the bar be raised by the controlling bodies before they've pushed away everyone that gave the game it's appeal in the first place? What happens when the passion disappears for good? You can't manufacture passion, no matter how hard some clubs try.

They have mascots running up and down the touchline trying to encourage the fans. At Bolton they play "I feel good" when they score, with two young lads running the length of the pitch with big flags. Music played after goals is now commonplace, as if fans don't know how to celebrate a goal by themselves. Is it because they realise the passion is dead and are trying to hang onto a small semblence of it? Or is it aimed at manufacturing a friendly atmosphere to suit their agenda?

Manufactured support; I can't think of anything worse. Handing out those clappers seems to be the next step this season, with the whole of St.Andrews clapping along with them before their opening game. This in a ground that used to be known as one of the most passionate and hostile in football; now transformed into a childrens play ground with everybody doing as they are told. Sat down and singing what the club want them to sing, and clapping when they want them to clap. So sad. Ticket prices on the increase there every season, and a ground I now refuse to visit. £40 for an away ticket some 4 years ago. No thanks. It doesn't take a genius to work out why they barely fill half of that ground any more.

Newcastle had their lowest league attendance for nearly a decade at the weekend, with cash turnstiles in operation, entry for £10 if you bought a replica shirt and other such promotions, but still had thousands of empty seats. Manchester United have been contacting everybody on their mailing lists trying to push season ticket sales again this summer. Whereas Old Trafford used to be like Fort Knox when it came to getting in, they're now closer to resembling one of the happy hour bars in Benidorm, with teenagers stood outside handing out cards with promotional offers to encourage trade. What was once a closed shop, is now opening it's doors and trying to drag people in off the streets.

Is the football bubble about to burst? I hope so.

On Monday night, Portsmouth's most famous fan, the bell ringer with the blue hair, or less commonly known as "John", was approached by the ground staff at Fratton Park and asked to keep the noise down. I'm sure it's not only me that's absolutely staggered by that. Asked to stop ringing his bell and keep the noise down, in a football ground! The mind boggles. But it's another notch on the many that have been made previously, in slowly sanitising the way we support our teams.
We are told we're not allowed to stand up as it's unsafe; yet rugby sides play in exactly the same stadia and those rules don't apply. Apparently it's safe for rugby fans to stand in those same seated areas, but not football fans (the reasons for that I could write a book on, and will address again). It's madness. They're also allowed to drink in their seats while watching the game. I know of a fan that was facing a 3 year football banning after peering over the exits at White Hart Lane to catch a goal he'd missed when coming down early at half time. He'd walked down the steps, was handed a pint by a friend, and heard the roar from the stands. He went halfway back up the steps to see what had happened, when two officers arrested him for consuming alcohol in view of the playing surface. It defies belief. But I'm told we're different. As our friend from Portsmouth has pointed out this week; would this sort of discrimination be accepted anywhere else, or by anyone else, but football fans?

I was on a final warning in my old season ticket seat for foul and abusive language. I was reported by fellow fans for swearing, and risked losing my season ticket. Now in that seat, I was reserved, very reserved. It was on the halfway line and not a noise was made all season by anyone. They were spectators, I'm a participant, or like to be. I want to go to the game and let off some steam. I go to work to pay the bills, put a roof over the family heads, and to enjoy myself during my time off. I choose to do that at the football, something I've grown up with. It's always been a part of who I am. But in that seat, I had to control myself and just sit and watch the game, conforming to those around me for over 7 years. I must have sworn a handful of times in that entire period, when telling the referee where to go or some other trivial slip of the tongue. Yet I faced losing my season ticket and not being able to support my side over it. I was one swear word away from walking away from the game for good. If this was in a family enclosure I'd understand. I know when swearing is unacceptable, and in my view, a football ground is one of those places where it fits.

When I go to the match, I want to stand with fellow fans, my friends. I want to participate in the game, I want to support the side. I want to shout and I want to sing. I want to do the things that made me fall in love with the game and going to the match. But one by one, the authorities are trying to take all those things out of our game. To have us sat in silence, only singing when they want us to sing, and singing the songs they want us to sing. Blaring music over the PA system we are supposed to dance along to. We're unable to create an atmosphere ourselves it seems. For the future, see American sports for how it will go. Club issue foam hands can already be seen, dancing girls have been tried, the list goes on.
Keep sanitising; you'll soon be wondering where it all went wrong, when the very people that made this game what it is, have all long since disappeared. There's not many of us left. Soon there will be none.

Enjoy modern football. Enjoy scratching your heads in some plush office arguing with each other about who's to blame when the crowds start to stay away. I'll be long past the caring stage. You'll have brought it upon yourselves and destroyed a game loved by millions in the process. I hope it's worth it.

Cheers
MFCGAVMFC
 
if you wrote that m8 . it was spot on . everything you said hit it right on the head .

i found it on teh well boys forum (motherwell group) so i cant take credit for it but its so true

Cheers
MFCGAVMFC
 
My m8 was fined years ago for swearing in a song even though we where all singing with the crowd, it was in the papers that he was one of the first in the country because they where trying to bring a "Family" feeling to the game.
but has there was and still is thousand that chant its like stopping night following day.
it was not racist it was just telling a local rival team to go away lol
 
Oh no an offensive football song, anyone singing it should be locked up for life......

Was posh spice taking it up the arse not offensive ??

The inbred nevilles ??

Heard in your Liverpool slums being blasted out a few times at Anfield, you find a dead rat and think it's a treat, surely thats not offensive tho is it ??

Adaybayor gets hit with his dad washes elephants and his mothers a whore shouts everyweek (surely the most offensive song ever !!)

ohhhh no you cant sing the okey cokey tho.......haha this is pathetic
 
Oh no an offensive football song, anyone singing it should be locked up for life......

Was posh spice taking it up the arse not offensive ??

The inbred nevilles ??

Heard in your Liverpool slums being blasted out a few times at Anfield, you find a dead rat and think it's a treat, surely thats not offensive tho is it ??

Adaybayor gets hit with his dad washes elephants and his mothers a whore shouts everyweek (surely the most offensive song ever !!)

ohhhh no you cant sing the okey cokey tho.......haha this is pathetic
Unfortunately in Scottish football, more time is spent arguing about other things than watching and enjoying the game....
 
Unfortunately in Scottish football, more time is spent arguing about other things than watching and enjoying the game....

Sadly that is spot on m8...the bigot brothers have well and truly fecked it for everyone over the last few years with their tit for tat conspiracy theories and paranoia.


cheers
 
Like I said before I aint exactly a big footy fan but the one thing I do know is that if I went to a footy game there is plenty of singing and winding up going on, so if I don't like it..... don't go !


I heard today that the pope has slammed homosexuals (no pun intended) saying they are sick and should be shunned or saved, it has been said that it is his religious right to be able to verbally attack this group of people....... well some people have similar feeling towards the catholic church, some even believing they are the embodyment of the anti-christ.... yet we can't even sing the Hokey Pokey and they are up in arms !


What's good for the goose...........
 
Sadly that is spot on m8...the bigot brothers have well and truly fecked it for everyone over the last few years with their tit for tat conspiracy theories and paranoia.


cheers
Its daft isnt it? You dont really hear about it happening with the Premiership (of course, that doesnt mean it doesnt happen).

To be honest, I wouldnt blame anyone for being put off bothering to watch Scottish football after all this carry on.
 
Its daft isnt it? You dont really hear about it happening with the Premiership (of course, that doesnt mean it doesnt happen).

To be honest, I wouldnt blame anyone for being put off bothering to watch Scottish football after all this carry on.

thats why you should support your local team

i'm sure HibbyDave, Falkirk_bairn and harry127 will agree its far better than having to listen and read about shite like this we aint paranoid either

we know we are shite!! lol ;)

Cheers
MFCGAVMFC
 
thats why you should support your local team

i'm sure HibbyDave, Falkirk_bairn and harry127 will agree its far better than having to listen and read about shite like this we aint paranoid either

we know we are shite!! lol ;)

Cheers
MFCGAVMFC
I would support my local team (although I am not a fan) if I knew which one to go for :(
 
I would support my local team (although I am not a fan) if I knew which one to go for :(

whereabouts are you based mate? i may be able to direct you ;)

Cheers
MFCGAVMFC
 
I live smack bang in the centre of Edinburgh. I am not sure, but I think Hearts is the nearest club to me.

no no mate don't support them!! i dont think they will be around long!!

support Motherwell mate you can come to inverurie wie me on the 10th of January for our cup tie!! only thing is we will have to camp out on friday night so we can get a ticket!!

Cheers
MFCGAVMFC
 
no no mate don't support them!! i dont think they will be around long!!

support Motherwell mate you can come to inverurie wie me on the 10th of January for our cup tie!! only thing is we will have to camp out on friday night so we can get a ticket!!

Cheers
MFCGAVMFC
Do you know, I have lived in Scotland for almost 8 years now. I have no idea where Motherwell or Inverurie is.

Only been to Glasgow three times and the furthest nort I got was Dalgety Bay when I missed my stop on the train to Rosyth once...
 
Like I said before I aint exactly a big footy fan

yet we can't even sing the Hokey Pokey and they are up in arms !

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Who are We and who are They, just a thought from a non offended.

This is a total non story by the press all through an alleged quote from a priest who was asked if a song was sung insulting Catholics would you be offended, allegedly he replied yes, There's your story and if anyone has been following this story it is full of " allegedly " there are no direct quotes from the Catholic Church..
 
Do you know, I have lived in Scotland for almost 8 years now. I have no idea where Motherwell or Inverurie is.

Only been to Glasgow three times and the furthest nort I got was Dalgety Bay when I missed my stop on the train to Rosyth once...

Inverurie is up past Aberdeen and the wonderful place called Motherwell is not far from Glasgow

seriously you don't know what your missing

a national paper once described Motherwell as

"a place to put fear in even the most hardened gangster"

lol

Cheers
MFCGAVMFC
 
Who are We and who are They, just a thought from a non offended.

This is a total non story by the press all through an alleged quote from a priest who was asked if a song was sung insulting Catholics would you be offended, allegedly he replied yes, There's your story and if anyone has been following this story it is full of " allegedly " there are no direct quotes from the Catholic Church..

You know the gutter press m8, they are the biggest sh1t stirrers around.

They do that with managers a lot, they ask a question and if the manager answers they splash a headline which is ridiculous but no direct quotes.

As for the WE (are the people) and the THEY (are not the people)............lol
 
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