Rangers FC Thread

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WALTER SMITH has drawn up a two-year blueprint for his mission to rescue Rangers.

SunSport can reveal that Smith and his consortium will launch their takeover bid within the next 48 hours.

Accountants representing the group — which is bankrolled by Scotland’s richest man Jim McColl and motor tycoon Douglas Park — will open talks with current owner Charles Green.

The offer will not be near the £20million suggested by the Green camp.

But Smith & Co hope the Yorkshire businessman can be persuaded to take a tidy profit and quickly step aside to allow the fans’ choice to take control of Gers.

Meanwhile, Smith is on holiday in France contemplating his next move in the bid to secure the future of the club.

SunSport can reveal:

SMITH will NOT be chairman or a director of football of the new Rangers, should his group wrest control.

ALLY McCOIST will remain as boss over the next two seasons and won’t be held hostage to results.

SMITH may not even take a seat on any football or business board. His main concern is to put the right people in charge to ensure Gers never again fall into the shameful state they are in now.

SHOULD his ‘Dream Team’ bid fail, there is no chance of Smith returning to Ibrox as part of the Green regime.

THE Group will invest significant money in the infrastructure of Ibrox and Murray Park.

SMITH will battle to encourage new investment into Gers and when that has been achieved he will step down.

Smith, the only man the Rangers fans trust to unite their shattered club, has been courted by every regime and failed bid since Whyte bought over Sir David Murray’s 85.3 per cent majority shareholding in Gers for £1.

He has stayed on the sidelines though, and is only involved now because he feels McColl and Park have Rangers’ interests at heart and are not in this to make money.

The consortium want to organise crunch talks over the weekend and begin the process of trying to land Rangers.

But Green holds all the cards now as McColl and Park waited until the 11th hour to make their move.

Now Smith and his backers face a nervous weekend as they prepare to start negotiations with Sevco.

He was offered a boardroom position by shamed former owner Whyte but declined it.

Green will get the same answer, so turning down this offer and trying to keep Smith in the loop is not an option for the new owners.

Now the test for Green will be if he wants to fight a bloody battle with the fans or bow to pressure and accept the offer that is looming.

Read more: Two-year plan to rescue Rangers | The Sun |Home Scotland|Scottish Sport|SPL

ARCHIE KNOX has known Walter Smith for 40 years.

Since they were at Dundee United together in the 1970’s, to standing side by side as Rangers clinched nine in a row.

Knox spent six years from 1991-97 as Smith’s No2 at Ibrox.

He knows what makes him tick.

And he believes Smith has what very few people have to front and pull off a daring takeover bid from Charles Green — the trust of the Gers fans.

Knox, now No2 to Craig Brown at Aberdeen, said: “It was a total surprise hearing about Walter being involved in this bid.

“Someone has obviously twisted his arm, but Walter must feel he can do his bit... and you won’t get a man with Rangers at heart more than him.

“He has been a Rangers supporter from his schooldays and twice had great success with them as manager.

“These guys are now keen to make sure Rangers go forward in the right manner.

“And if they have Walter at the helm, that is a great start for them.

“They will have all the supporters back on board because they can associate with Walter who brought them a huge amount of success.

“If he is leading the way then I am sure everyone will be behind them. He will have their trust.

“If Walter feels it is a realistic proposition and is throwing his weight behind it, then it is a good way forward for Gers.

“It looks like he felt enough is enough and wants to get the club back running with some Rangers people.

“It is just a damn shame what has happened in the first place.”

Knox remembers fondly his years as Smith’s No2 down Govan way.

Graeme Souness had left with two games to go in season 1990-91 with Smith propelled into the hot seat.

Knox, who was Alex Ferguson’s No2 at Manchester United at the time, joined Gers and they ended up winning the league on the last day with a dramatic 2-0 win over Aberdeen.

Knox recalled when they met and how their relationship developed.

He added: “Walter and I met 40 years ago when we were both at Dundee United. He was always a keen football guy and we both worked under Jim McLean. We both started doing our coaching badges at a young age.

“We played together at United and did the coaching courses down at Largs together.

“We must have done the coaching courses for about 25 years.

“I was assistant to Alex Ferguson at Manchester United when I got the call from Walter to come to Rangers in 1991.

“I arrived a few days after Graeme Souness had left and that was with two games of the season left.

“It was an awkward time as United had just reached the final of the Cup Winners Cup against Barcelona. But I left the week before the game and joined Rangers.

“They were going for their third title in a row and it was vital Walter got off to a good start.

“But we lost 3-0 to Motherwell which meant we had to beat Aberdeen in the last game at Ibrox, which we did 2-0.

“We carried on as normal after the defeat to Motherwell.

“Walter never panicked and kept things on an even keel. He was always like that — he would never get carried away.

“That kept the players calm enough even though there was a lot of hype about that Aberdeen game.

“Things could have turned out so differently had we not won the title that season.

“But that title win made everyone sit up and realise that here was a good manager, and that Sir David Murray was no fool.

“It would have been easy for Murray to go for a big name, but he realised he had a guy capable of doing the job on his own doorstep.

“I am sure Graeme Souness backed Walter up to the hilt as well.

“When you take on a club that size it is vital to have success.

“Walter continued the success after Souness had left and attracted a level of player. When we won that title, he had the fans on his side straight away.

“They wanted another one after that which he got and that was him really confirmed as the gaffer.

“He was on his way to becoming a great Rangers manager and the fans will be delighted if he returns to the club as the new supremo.”

Read more: He’s the one man Gers fans can trust | The Sun |Home Scotland|Scottish Sport|SPL

THE SFA have been told FIFA won’t be stepping into the debate over the registration of Rangers players.

UK employment law — under TUPE regulations — allows Gers stars to quit Ibrox for free now the club has been liquidated.

But there’s a grey area on what happens to their registrations, with Charles Green claiming they’d be in breach of contract.

Hampden chiefs wrote to FIFA this week seeking guidance but SunSport can reveal the SFA have been told to sort it out themselves, because Hampden holds all player registrations, It means the SFA would rule in any dispute if the likes of Allan McGregor, Steve Davis or Steven Naismith chose to walk away.

An announcement is being delayed as FIFA drag their heels over assurances the SFA want in the event their decisions are disputed by the newco club.

FIFA rules stipulate they would only get involved if a dispute had an international dimension. They could be called on for the big earners or if the likes of Dorin Goian or Carlos Bocanegra chose to quit.

Each player’s situation would be taken on a case-by-case basis, further complicating matters.

The SFA are mindful of both the situation at Ibrox and the views of PFA Scotland that its members CAN walk. It’s thought the hierarchy will now meet early to discuss a way ahead.

A FIFA spokesman, asked if registration disputes would be down to the SFA’s discretion, said: “Yes. Neither a player nor a club can hold the registration of a player. A player is registered at an association. As a general rule, a contract may be prematurely terminated by either party without consequences of any kind where there is just cause.

“Whether a just cause is given or not must, in case of a dispute, be assessed while considering the specific and particular circumstances of the concrete case.

“Consequently, it is not possible to provide a straight-forward list of occurrences that constitute just cause.

“However, FIFA is only competent to hear an employment-related dispute between a club and a player if the facts have an international dimension.”

Read more: FIFA take back seat | The Sun |Home Scotland|Scottish Sport|SPL

 

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thats another line of washing gone J. i was keeping an open mind as to wether it was a rangers or celtic supporter. but as my vegetable patch has been
raided and only the potatoes have been stolen i think the evidence is quite conclusive.

 

[phezo]

During the struggle
They will pull us down
But please, please
Let's use this chance
To turn things around
And tonight
We can truly say
Together we're invincible
Together we're invincible

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The lyrics to this song are so relevant to our plight. i think we should try and promote this as our comeback tune.

Come on lads lets here your singing voices,lol

i reckon we would have to sing in a lower key,lol.

 

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IBROX STARS TO JOIN FIGHT AGAINST GREEN

THE Bluenoses in the Rangers dressing room can add their weight to the coming fight to ensure Walter Smith’s consortium ousts Charles Green.

For if stars such as captain Steve Davis, plus Scotland trio, Allan McGregor, Lee McCulloch and Stevie Naismith, along with others such as Steven Whittaker and Kirk Broadfoot, decide to play hard ball over their contracts controversy, Green and his gang are sunk.

Such a move would be highly popular with supporters and would also be a massive demonstration of player power as a weapon in the war being waged to save Rangers from destruction.

I believe a number of the club's best and most popular stars will be giving serious thought in the coming days about just how they should play the strong hand they have been dealt after Charles Green’s pitiful CVA efforts failed, plunging Rangers into Liquidation and creating a NewCo.

Bungling Duff and Phelps, along with the increasingly under attack new Ibrox chief executive Charles Green, insist the players’ contracts automatically switch to the NewCo.

But Scottish Professional Footballers’ Union boss, the always well informed Fraser Wishart, is even more adamant the players contracts are now null and void and that they will become free agents in a fortnight’s time.

The row has now been passed to the Scottish Football Association, but my information is that neither chief executive Stewart Regan or his legal sidekick on the sixth floor at Hampden, Vincent Lunny, are comfortable giving a final ruling.

And now Regan and the SFA have passed the buck and asked for FIFA to rule.

However, and this is where the Ibrox stars, particularly those who are dyed-in-the-wool Bluenoses such as Ulsterman, Davis, veteran, McCulloch, plus prized asset Naismith, can play their part in saving Rangers.

None of them really want to leave the club they have supported all their lives. Playing for Rangers is living the dream for these guys.

Whatever the legal position regarding their contracts and a NewCo may be ruled as being, they want to stay at Ibrox.

And what would make the players happy would be if Walter Smith’s consortium takes over from Green.

Those players are also outraged at the thought that manager Alastair McCoist believed he was going to be stabbed in the back by Green .

And even though McCoist stepped back from the brink, his relationship with Green now looks so fractured that it is impossible to see how the pair can work together.

The players know their manager would face no such problems and that the dressing room would be a happy place if Walter Smith wins his fight for the heart and soul of Rangers.

And that could play a part in any decision they may take on how they play their cards.

With the smart money being on the biggest stars at Ibrox joining forces with the fans to add to the growing groundswell that proven liar Charles Green is not wanted at Ibrox.

Particularly after recent events and the stigma that has attached itself to the once proud Rangers name, following the low chicanery of conman and huckster Craig Whyte.

Green, it appears, just cannot stop telling lies. And that puts him in the same lowlife league as conman Whyte.

The latest Green lie was that businessman Ian Hart was part of his consortium and had invested in Rangers.

Less than two hours after this Green bluster, Ian Hart issued an indignant statement making it clear Green was telling more lies and that he had not invested and had no involvement with him.

In fact, Ian Hart is backing Douglas Park, who, along with billionaire Jim McColl, are the money men behind Walter Smith.

It remains to be seen what further revelations about others who Charles Green claims have invested and how any investment was procured, will burst like bombshells, adding to the weight of evidence against Charles Green.

All of this is hardening an already tough anti Green attitude among supporters groups, fat cat fans, corporate financial backers, plus rank and file fans.

While the news that the biggest names in the Ibrox dressing room could be on the brink of joining them in their fight for the heart and soul of Rangers will only serve to strengthen the growing bond between Rangers supporters and the club’s stars, in the fight to ensure that Rangers are re-born.

And re-born properly and cleanly and under the stewardship of sane sensible people.

People who are Rangers men!

 

[J]

in walter we trust

 

[J]

Rangers in crisis: Fans organise rally in support of Walter consortium (Record)

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Article by Keith MacLeod in the Record this morning bigging up the Walter Rally with some quotes from FF, no less, at the foot

I see we are still 'Rangers'

RANGERS fans are planning a massive “In Walter We Trust” march to help their former manager take control at Ibrox.
Thousands are expected to turn out at Bellahouston Park in Glasgow next Saturday for a rally in support of Walter Smith’s bid for power.
It will be the biggest message yet to new owner Charles Green and his consortium that the Ibrox faithful want “Rangers fans” running the club, not “speculators”.
Supporters’ groups believe they hold power over Green because they reckon that without their financial backing, his consortium will soon run out of cash.
A call to not renew season-ticket books is being backed by all Rangers fans’ organisations.
And as well as the march and rally, a petition in support of Smith’s rival consortium is being organised.
Rangers Supporters Trust chairman Mark Dingwall said last night: “The fans are sending a clear message – we want Rangers fans in charge at Ibrox, not speculators.
“This is not an anti-Green rally, it’s a pro-Walter Smith rally.
“We are politely asking Green to step aside and allow Rangers supporters to take over the club. It is nothing personal.
“We believe the administration process followed by Duff & Phelps was flawed. They showed themselves to be completely out of their depth and totally overwhelmed by what they faced at a club of Rangers’ size and standing.
“Add in the fact that one of their partners was a key adviser to Craig Whyte and you can see why the fans have distrusted their whole involvement.
“We think that Green should do the honourable thing and we don’t see why he should make a profit.
“Walter Smith is the right man for Ibrox and I cannot see any way that Green can ignore this huge groundswell of opinion from the fans.”

The rally will begin in Bellahouston Park and fans will then march to Edmiston Drive and the front steps of Ibrox Stadium.
On the FollowFollow website yesterday, fans suggested they should all wave their season book renewal forms in the air. But Dingwall said: “That is just one suggestion. It has not been adopted officially.
“The main thing is that credible people are behind the plans for the march and the rally.
“I don’t think it will take season books to be waved in the air for the Green consortium to get the message.
“We are clearly and calmly asking fans not to renew their season tickets until Walter Smith and his backers are in place at Ibrox.
“The feedback we have had so far shows remarkable solidarity from fans.”
Rangers still don’t know what league they will be playing in next season.
Some fans have said they would rather play in the Third Division instead of “lining the pockets” of SPL clubs.
Many Rangers supporters are angry that some fans of other clubs have called for severe punishments to be dished out to Rangers for the sins of Whyte.
Other SPL clubs could lose millions from TV revenue and sponsorship if broadcasters Sky pull the plug on coverage – which insiders have said they will do.
Fan manfromdelmonte said on FollowFollow: “We have suffered for months, this is our big chance to win our club back. It has to be done right as there won’t be other chances.”
Another fan, IanDurrant10, posted: “Yes to Walter, No to Green, Rangers men to run our Team.”
But PaisleyBear1872 said: “How is it not anti-Green? What a great way to thank the guy.”
Some fans posting messages said they hope that Green will have stepped aside before the march and rally.
Jamie53 said: “Sounds like a plan, hope there’s some good news before the 23rd though.”

 

[J]

AND SO THE BRICKING IT BEGINS WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SFA TRANSPARACY
LET SEE WHO WANTS RANGERS TO FUND THE DIDDY TEAMs

Kilmarnock boss Kenny Shiels: SPL chairmen should be allowed secret vote over newco Rangers
Jun 16 2012 By Colin Duncan
KENNY SHIELS has called for a secret ballot to be used in deciding the fate of newco Rangers.
The Kilmarnock boss reckons SPL clubs who vote on whether to admit the fallen Ibrox giants will be damned if they do and damned if they don’t.
An eight-strong majority is required by the newco Ibrox outfit when the top-flight club chiefs convene some time in the next fortnight at Hampden.
Rangers’ demise and their non-participation in the SPL would be hugely detrimental to the game and the 11 chairmen are acutely aware of this – despite the majority of supporters keen to see the back of Ally McCoist’s side.
Killie chairman Michael Johnston faces this very dilemma – and whichever way he casts his vote there will be recriminations.
Shiels believes a private ballot would help protect clubs from any backlash as they contemplate arguably the most important decision in Scottish football history.
He said: “A secret ballot would be the best solution as the clubs would not be put in an awkward position.
“I don’t think a show of hands is the best way to go on this. There will be a fall-out either way so a ballot would benefit the whole of Scottish football.
“The decision to be made is huge and will affect so many people in so many ways.
“I compare it to a decision you would make regarding your family. You have to look after your family and you have to make a decision that is in their best interests.
“Clubs have to do the same when it comes to the vote on a Rangers newco.”
A number of chairmen and chief executives are ready to say “no” to allowing The Rangers FC into the SPL – with Aberdeen yesterday morning insisting sporting integrity must remain central to their decision.
But when push comes to shove will the other clubs stick to their beliefs or perform a U-turn?
Shiels understands both sides of the argument. But he believes the choice to be made by SPL clubs is a simple one.
He said: “We’re in real danger of over-complicating this with too many people trying to take the moral high ground. In my opinion it is quite simple. A lot has been said about Rangers but it all boils down to this – clubs have to make a call that is in their best interests.”
Shiels accepts non- payment of taxes cannot go unpunished but feels the HMRC rejection of Rangers’ CVA sends an ominous warning to the rest of football.
And he added: “All clubs have to very careful in the way they are run as I believe the taxman is out to get football.
“The news of Rangers was like a death in the football family. But we must move on and we have to stand up for our industry.
“It’s time for people and organisations to stick together and start working as one for the good of the game.
“It’s not about hammering people in order to gain some bragging rights.
“We need to reach some kind of agreement suitable to all the parties involved so we can move forward.”

 

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The Scottish FA push for league bodies merger

The Scottish FA aims to push through a merger of the Scottish Premier League and Scottish Football League in time for the start of the new season.

The governing body also wants to introduce a fairer system of income distribution and a pyramid system.

One SFA source told BBC Scotland: "We are at a situation of critical mass.

"Someone has to take a lead and sort out the internal bickering and point scoring and also to ensure that the Rangers situation never happens again."

The SFA has lost patience with the two league bodies and is now set to push through radical change in the way the Scottish game is structured by next season.

And the source continued: "We need to use the mood for change among supporters in the country to tackle the current inertia and do what is right for the game.

"Change has to be democratic but the time for talking has passed. We need action now to save the game."

It is understood that over the next few weeks the SFA, who are the body who license the clubs to play, will hold meetings with the SPL and the SFL to push through the changes they feel are needed.

The SFA want to merge the two current league bodies, introduce a new method of wealth distribution and to reinvigorate the Third Division with the introduction of a pyramid system to allow new teams entry to a national league set-up.

The source continued: "There is complete anarchy going on. Both sides are agreed on the need for fundamental change but neither side has been able to build an alliance.

"The fans are demanding fundamental change. The Rangers situation has intensified the need for a resolution and over the next few weeks we will meet with the SPL and SFL to find a solution."

 

[phezo]

as mentioned in another thread

And the following is the reason that any decent rangers fan, should insist that the history does not follow the new club. Any fan who has this mindset should be left to rot with the corpse of rangers.

You really have no idea of the extent of ill feeling towards RFC(IL) from fans of other SPL clubs
You don’t care that your club cheated every other club for possibly over 20 yrs.
You don’t care that because of your clubs actions every other club were denied a level playing field and the chance to win trophys etc.
You don’t care that your club had the tacit approval of a complicite media that never questioned where the money was comming from.
You don’t care that small buissneses have suffered as a result of your club not paying it’s bills.
You don’t care that you signed players, Jelevic etc, from other clubs that will never be paid.
You don’t care that no one likes you.
You don’t understand the meaning of justice and integrity
You don’t know what dignity is.
You will never be forgotten for all the pain you have brought to the game in this country and you wont be missed.


ALL I CAN SAY IS 9 IN A ROW MUST HAVE BEEN A BITCH FOR THE REST OF YOU'S.
:salute:

 

[surfbum]

1.The corporate entity that our football club sits in is now known as 'The Rangers Football Club'

2.Previously this legal vehicle was called 'The Rangers Football Club plc' - it is this entity that will be liquidated (1899 - 2012)

3. The football club name has always been and still is knows as 'The Rangers Football Club' since 1872 - present.

4. Our corporate vehicle and football club name are now exactly the same.

5. The football club has not changed and we have not died.

The club didn't go to the wall. The company did. The club is as alive today as it was pre 1899 when the company was created.


http://companycheck.co.uk/company/SC004276

 

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Archie MacPherson puts boot into men he blames for Rangers’ downfall

Veteran footie pundit Archie MacPherson has covered World Cups and witnessed Scottish clubs beat Europe’s best over a five-decade love affair with the game.

But the game’s elder statesman has been stunned by the downfall of the Ibrox giants — and claims the last two owners Sir David Murray and Craig Whyte are WHOLLY responsible for Rangers’ demise.

Archie, 74, said: “If there is anything good in this, then if the taxman is to be believed, he will go after the real people — Murray and Whyte. They are the ones who should be pursued.

“You could say Murray and Whyte are the Burke and Hare of Rangers Football Club, even Scottish football as a whole. They are body snatchers. They have a lot to answer for.”

The former commentator believes there are “many lessons” to be learned from the Rangers situation.

Archie added: “The old traditional Rangers was handed over to an entrepreneur who bought them success and flouted money.

“No fans would complain about winning nine-in-a-row but Rangers became very much like the bankers in America who were using their capital and customers as placings.

“It was free market capitalism that brought Rangers down — men who threw their money about willy-nilly without proper governance.

“I don’t know much about Charles Green but men like him are not in it for football reasons.
“The most important lesson to be learned in all this is to scrutinise those who are putting money into clubs. Who are these people?

“We have to ask who is putting money into the clubs and how is it being made. There has to be the utmost vigilance. That’s the most important thing.”

Archie also compared Rangers’ plight with that of bitter rivals Celtic in the mid-1990s when they, too, looked set to go bust before they were saved at the last minute.

He added: “This is the biggest story EVER in Scottish football. Celtic were in crisis in 1994, but Fergus McCann came along and managed to very successfully re-establish the club.

“But that situation never reached this stage. This is unchartered territory for everyone. It’s hugely significant because the club on paper has gone out of existence.

“If you think of the thousands of supporters it could affect in one way or another it’s a tragedy. These supporters have been duped. Firstly by one man over the years and then by him handing the baton over to somebody who simply took the club into muddied waters.

“And really the supporters had no inkling of what was going on.

“Rangers have been in the wilderness before, although in fairness not the Gobi Desert wilderness they could be going into. But in Jock Stein’s time Rangers were pushed to being a fringe team which is the equivalent of the wilderness in their fans’ eyes. And in the 1980s Aberdeen and Dundee United began to nudge them away from the top three or four places. So they’ve been in the wilderness.”

The veteran also insisted the Ibrox club would live on under a ‘newco’ even if they were plunged to the bottom tier of Scottish football — because their legion of loyal supporters wouldn’t allow the institution to simply disappear.

Archie added: “Even if they were to be put into the Third Division they would come back because of the resilience of their support. Don’t dare underestimate that. Look at how many people went to the UEFA Cup Final in Manchester — they don't suddenly depart.”

The broadcaster — famous for his “Woof” catchphrase — says Rangers’ situation has left the whole of Scottish football at a crossroads.

And he warned people wanting to punish Rangers could see it backfire on their own clubs.

The veteran TV man said: “I don’t know the financial positions of the other clubs, but we are in a declining market.

“You just have to look at attendances and the empty seats. We are in a consumer recession but clubs need to feed their mouths so to speak. So they need to say to themselves that sporting integrity is fine, but how am I going to survive?

“It’s a difficult choice for them to make. So we have to be very careful about using the term sporting integrity.

“Who could argue against putting Rangers into the Third Division if it was based purely on sporting integrity?

“The Sky deal is obviously important and I don’t know the details, but if Rangers going out of the SPL in some way breaches the contract then we have to presume something else would need to be agreed. How attractive an SPL deal without Rangers would be remains to be seen.

“Scottish football will still exist, of course it will, but how competitive will it be?

“I mean Celtic won the league this year and who’s to say they wouldn’t just win all three trophies every year.

“Other teams may say it’s better to be second than third but the most important thing is that a rational solution is found in which Rangers are punished — because they can’t avoid punishment — but if they could argue a case that says ‘punish us so we are heavily handicapped but keep us in the SPL’, that may win out.”

 

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Tam (to ugly for telly) Cowan Who keeps having a pop at Rangers if fecking priceless.

Cowan + Celtic luvvie Michelle McManus tv show The Hour was booted into touch
Tam blamed the decision to put the show on at the same time as Scottish soap River City
really River City nothing to do with the fact ye were both total Pish.

he also is a great believer in sporting integrity. where was his sporting integrity in 2002–03 his beloved Motherwell – finished last-place in the league – but avoided Relegation on a technicality, as First Division winners Falkirk lacked a stadium meeting Premier League regulations.

same as all those sheep shaggers from Aberdeen, sporting integrity did not matter when they went through the exact same thing ok you might say it was in the rules that Falkirk failed to get promoted, but when does the "rules" over rule sporting integrity?

the answer is when there is no rules inplace or it's Rangers FC or The Rangers FC as already been proven by the people in charge making up new rules as we go along. ie. rule change to decide newco acceptance 1st it was the spl boards job now it's down to the clubs.

ok we have done wrong, or is that the People who were supposed to be running Rangers done wrong and should be punished, well the Taxman is going after Murray and Whyte hopefully they will get theirs, Rangers are banned from Europe for 3 years were hit with a 10 point deduction the maximum allowed at the time and fined £160.000 and still maybe more to come.

If it has to be relegation to the 3rd division so be it, just hope I'm still around when that fat bastard Cowan is sitting on the pavement outside Fir Park bawling his Gerbil faced eyes out when his team goes tits up.

 

[buzzer]

Tam (to ugly for telly) Cowan .

:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

 

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only one thing wrong with that post we are banned from Europe for 4years all in.

Tam (to ugly for telly) Cowan Who keeps having a pop at Rangers if fecking priceless.

Cowan + Celtic luvvie Michelle McManus tv show The Hour was booted into touch
Tam blamed the decision to put the show on at the same time as Scottish soap River City
really River City nothing to do with the fact ye were both total Pish.

he also is a great believer in sporting integrity. where was his sporting integrity in 2002–03 his beloved Motherwell – finished last-place in the league – but avoided Relegation on a technicality, as First Division winners Falkirk lacked a stadium meeting Premier League regulations.

same as all those sheep shaggers from Aberdeen, sporting integrity did not matter when they went through the exact same thing ok you might say it was in the rules that Falkirk failed to get promoted, but when does the "rules" over rule sporting integrity?

the answer is when there is no rules inplace or it's Rangers FC or The Rangers FC as already been proven by the people in charge making up new rules as we go along. ie. rule change to decide newco acceptance 1st it was the spl boards job now it's down to the clubs.

ok we have done wrong, or is that the People who were supposed to be running Rangers done wrong and should be punished, well the Taxman is going after Murray and Whyte hopefully they will get theirs, Rangers are banned from Europe for 3 years were hit with a 10 point deduction the maximum allowed at the time and fined £160.000 and still maybe more to come.

If it has to be relegation to the 3rd division so be it, just hope I'm still around when that fat bastard Cowan is sitting on the pavement outside Fir Park bawling his Gerbil faced eyes out when his team goes tits up.

 

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LEE McCULLOCH last night insisted he will stay at Rangers next season regardless of which division they end up playing in.

The 34-year-old midfielder has been informed he would be within his rights to walk away from the club on a free transfer at the start of July because the club has reformed as a newco.

But the last thing McCulloch wants to do is quit the club he loves – even with speculation the Ibrox side will be dumped in the First or Third Division.

McCulloch sacrificed more than £200,000 in wages and appearance money to help keep the club alive when Gers went into administration.

And he’s not for turning his back now. He told MailSport: “I am going nowhere. I am staying with Rangers.

“Whether we’re in the SPL, the Third Division or anywhere in between – I will be with Rangers.

“Since I was a kid growing up in Motherwell, all I wanted to do was play for the club and there is no way I will walk away. It’s the last thing I would do.

“Wearing the Rangers jersey is an important part of my life and I’d never forgive myself if I gave that up.

“I have one year left on my contract and will see it out as a Rangers player.

“I feel I have a good few years left in me and would love to extend my stay at the club way beyond next season.

“More important things are on the horizon and, of course, I hope we are in the SPL next season.

“But if it meant dropping down three divisions then I’d get on with it.

“I’d make it a personal mission to win back the title from Celtic if we’re still in the SPL – or else help get the club back where they belong.

“I don’t believe this is a time for quitting Rangers. That would be the easy thing to do. This is a time for sticking with the club. I want to be with Rangers. That’s all that matters to me.

“I know things aren’t great at the moment and there appears to be lots of stuff that needs to be sorted out.

“I can’t control that. That kind of thing is out of my hands. But I can have an impact on how well we do on the park and I plan to do that.”

McCulloch fully understands why Rangers fans want to see newco owner Charles Green sell the club to a consortium being fronted by legendary former manager Walter Smith.

McCulloch has total respect and admiration for Smith, the man who signed him for Gers in 2007.

Fan power and the withdrawal of sponsorship money is likely to force Green’s hand in the coming weeks.

Manager Ally McCoist has had his problems with Green and was set to quit last week – but a clear-the-air meeting with the owner last Friday morning convinced him to stay.

But not all of the players will follow the lead of McCoist and McCulloch.

The players will be able to leave for nothing next month. Many will head to England or move abroad – a journey the likes of Steve Davis, Stevie Naismith and Kyle Lafferty are likely to take.

Green, though, insists his purchase of the old club’s assets includes the player registrations.

The players are due to be paid by Green at the end of the month and will need a straight answer by then before they decide their future plans.

Players will want guidance from PFA lawyers on that front. But MailSport understands keeper Allan McGregor also wants to stay on at Ibrox.

McCulloch said: “The players have been speaking to each other, trying to clear things up as much as anything else.

“The PFA have been very helpful and are sending out some cast-iron answers to the players.

“But we’ve yet to hear anything official from the club. I’m sure there will be contact soon. This will all be sorted out within the next few days.”

McCulloch was deeply saddened to see Rangers having to become a newco but believes the 140-year history will never leave his club.

He said: “It’s been a sad few days in many aspects. Some of what’s happened has been hard to take in, to digest.

“It’s been a bad dream. Nobody wanted it to end this way for Rangers. But we all have to try and keep a positive outlook.

“It’s my view that we are still Glasgow Rangers. The newco doesn’t change anything for me.

“Nobody can take away my memories and medals from the past few years. I’m sure if you asked the likes of John Greig and Richard Gough they’d say the same about their time at the club.

“It’s unfortunate what has happened but the players and supporters can’t be faulted. I would just urge all Rangers fans not to be too downhearted.

“More tough times could be ahead and we must be strong, stick together and try to move this club forward.

“We’ve taken too many backward steps in the past year or so and, frankly, we’ve all had enough.

“But we can’t lie down and feel sorry for ourselves. We all need to stand shoulder to shoulder and the sooner we can get back to playing football again, the better it will be.”

 

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Rangers in crisis: New chairman Malcolm Murray calls for truce inside and outside of Ibrox

Jun 17 2012 by Gordon Waddell, Sunday Mail

RANGERS chairman Malcolm Murray last night called for an end to the phoney war going on inside his club – and to the witch hunt from the outside.

The 57-year-old businessman has been in office for fewer than 72 hours but is already being forced to fight battles on all fronts.

And as he looked from the inside out at the hordes flanking his club and looking for blood – the SPL clubs and their fans on one side and Walter Smith and his heavyweight consortium on the other – Murray likened their situation to the French revolution.

But he insists now is a time to get heads together rather than see them roll.

He said: “All the rhetoric about smashing Rangers into the ground that is coming from elsewhere is of far more interest and concern to me than any possible bid.

“Endless punishments for the club don’t help anyone. Surely it is right that only a few individuals get punished.

“It has become a bit emotional. It’s like the French revolution where people are demanding heads be cut off anyone involved in Rangers even though 99.9 per cent are innocent.

“This shouldn’t be about revenge or anything like that. Extreme punishments – and the club has already suffered hugely – would be an emotional reaction.

“There is no point in killing the patient while he’s trying to recover. Do that and the whole ward dies. It would be like a mass suicide pact and that doesn’t make any sense. Overdoing punishment would be a nonsense.

“Bitterness isn’t good. Hopefully people will look at a compromise as it won’t help any other club if there is less revenue from TV or anywhere else about the game.

“It’s time to call a halt to all this. There comes a point when there has been a traumatic change where you have to get together and stop fighting. Let’s be constructive.

“Let’s get as many TV deals as possible, get as big crowds as possible and play football.”

It sounds so simple – yet ignores the complexities of the corporate veil encompassing the individuals who ran the club into the ground and the looming bid of Douglas Park and Jim McColl, spearheaded by the legendary Smith.

Murray, however, insists it’s all background noise he and Charles Green could be doing without.

And he insists if these men care as much about Rangers as they say, they would JOIN the new regime rather than work against them.

He said: “This is a phoney war because there has been no bid from Walter or his group and all the posturing is not helpful.

“I’ve had no contact with Walter or anyone in his group although I understand one of our people has had minimum contact. We have asked for a proper meeting.

“We must sit down with them ASAP – Monday – and hear what they have to say.

“We need to get together although I understand Walter is abroad and that it would perhaps be his business people. We have to listen to them and them to us.

“But it would be much better if we could co-exist and keep it simple. That would be the most positive way forward.

“Anything else would have to be done properly and not on a whim. There is a process if you want to make a bid for a plc.

“Everything is a bit emotional and highly charged right now and people need to sit down together calmly and quietly. Commonsense has gone out of the window and emotion has taken over.

“Frankly, I have never seen anything like this before in the history of finance.

“It is bizarre and at times you wonder if the money is there although as far as we are concerned the more investors the better. The board could be reconstructed accordingly.

“But a meeting is of paramount importance although it is difficult to speculate on any bid that doesn’t actually exist.”

The fans clearly believe it exists and are being encouraged to snub season tickets to keep money out of the new regime’s coffers to flush them out of the building.

Again, Murray is unimpressed by this tactic. He said: “No sponsors or season tickets and talk of marches is a concern but that would seem to me an absurd way of getting control of a company.

“Jim McColl is a wealthy individual but he is also a very busy man and this is an incredibly time-consuming thing.

“Whatever people say about Charles Green, he shoots from the hip. It is not his intention to be bought out. He doesn’t want to walk away. It is far too complex to be simply them or us.”

Murray and Green already appear to have extinguished one fire after manager Ally McCoist threatened to walk away.

McCoist has since backed away from that ledge and Murray said yesterday: “I had a long chat with Ally and he is committed to continuing. He agrees that anyone who is interested in this club should stand together with us.

“Ally is a legendary figure at Rangers and his view that he is with us is very helpful.

“I understand he may make a statement. He has told both Charles and myself that he is staying and that is a massive bridge between us and others.

“It is helpful and you can understand recent events because he has had a massive weight on his shoulders.

“Ally agrees that no single individual is bigger than Rangers but we would certainly welcome constructive dialogue and others who have the right motives.”

While the new regime may have the manager on board, the situation with players and their contracts remains unsolved. The PFA have left the Ibrox squad in no doubt that employment law leaves them free to walk away without transferring their deals over to a newco.

But Murray insists the situation is muddy.

Their wages are due in a week’s time but with no contracts in place, who or what do you pay?

Murray said: “That situation is unclear but Ally is going to look at it and speak to them all as soon as possible – although many of them are on holiday.

“My understanding is that contracts stay with a newco. But this is an issue the board needs to discuss quickly and in detail. All we want is for Ally to be back working with the players again.”

On their other disputes with the SFA and SPL, Murray admits they have a lot of talking to do. With their 21-day time frame to appeal the Court of Session’s decision on the “illegal” transfer embargo imposed on them up on Tuesday, they could yet go back to the SFA to ask for that original punishment to be re-imposed if they fear the alternatives are worse.

Murray, however, said: “It is difficult to say how that will go simply because we aren’t yet aware of the alternatives.

“It would be daft to say we’ll accept it when we haven’t yet weighed up the alternative punishments. We’re dancing in the dark a bit right now.”

As they are with the SPL.

Murray admitted: “I would prefer Rangers to be in the SPL which would be the healthiest option for everyone concerned.

“I’ve had one very brief meeting with the SFA but hope to talk about the issues next week and get some clarity. Everyone realises time is of the essence.

“Is the next week critical? Last week was critical – EVERY week seems critical. This time last week I thought a CVA was possible and look what happened.

“I am looking at a week of vital meetings. I want to meet Walter and his people, I want to get together with the SFA and SPL and anyone else who has an input. Time is the big thing here.

“I wouldn’t like to predict what this week will bring but hopefully we can see light at the end of the tunnel. This is an unprecedented situation for everyone and I feel for the SFA and SPL because they have never faced anything like this. But I hope commonsense prevails.”

 

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THE SPL are replacing Rangers with "Club 12" in the official list of fixtures for the 2012/13 season which are released tomorrow morning.

The governing body is sticking to the schedule of announcing the matches as planned but have taken the Ibrox men out of the list after the developments of last week which saw Rangers FC change ownership under a newco scenario.

The Sevco consortium headed by Charles Green completed the purchase of the club and its assets last week when HMRC refused to support an exit from administration through CVA.

They are now seeking to transfer the SPL share from the old company - Rangers Football Club plc - to the new company, The Rangers Football Club.

All 12 member clubs need to vote on this application and eight votes are required for Rangers to be playing SPL football next season.

A date for this vote has yet to be set so the SPL have decided to use "Club 12" in their list of fixtures in order to cover all eventualities.

If the transfer of the SPL share is successful then Rangers will assume the "Club 12" fixtures.

The fixtures will be announced at 9am tomorrow.

 

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i wonder if club 12 will be at home the same time celtic play at home :roflmao:

 

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I read that we haven't actually submitted our application to rejoin the SPL yet, which is needed before the SPL board meeting tomorrow.

I also read nothing but derogatory statements and threats of further excessive punishments for the club from fans (and some chairmen) of other SPL clubs.

For me, an alternative would be that instead of applying for the Newco to take the Oldco's SPL membership, we have decided not to pursue this and we will instead await the inevitable vacancy in the SFL then apply for that. We would only consider applying for SPL membership should the current members invite us to join.

Take away the power these other clubs are enjoying so much over us, and instead of them having the satisfaction of gloating for decades on how they hammered us when they could, let them wake up tomorrow and realise half of them will die unless they come cap in hand to us.

I don't say this lightly, as unbroken membership of Scotland's top division is something I cherish as its only us and Celtic who can claim it. But the endless attempts at humiliating us have gone far enough.

 

[J]

Fucc the spl
Let's go to 3rd and watch them all
Crumble( now that would be good)