new windows 64 ?
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i have had windows 64 for around 3 months and except for the lack of firewall support i havent found many problems at all
norton avg 10 works fine for antivirus and ghost firewall works fine
all games etc work fine and the only other thing that wont work is the bluetooth dongle i have
win 64 is alot quicker than win xp 32bit and all updates etc work fine
norton avg 10 works fine for antivirus and ghost firewall works fine
all games etc work fine and the only other thing that wont work is the bluetooth dongle i have
win 64 is alot quicker than win xp 32bit and all updates etc work fine
thomson said:
i seem to recall it installing corectly as my nephew wante a (copy) of it but the patch made for it wouldnt work as it kept asking for original disk
but i think the original worked for the brief time it was installed on my machine
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can you find out for sure about fifa 06 working on windows x64 mate as its important for me as i use the game a lot.hollow said:
Also, it is the original version of the game I have and not a crack version.
please let me know a.s.a.p mate, or anyone else for that matter.
cheers guys :Cheers:
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Try it, its worth giving a go. once i got all the drivers for my hardware sorted, it ran like a dream, booted quicker, everything i loaded loaded quicker, everything seemed to be quicker even the progs that were running in 32bit compatibility mode (yes it does have this) ctl alt del will show u what is running in true 64 or 32bit windows, there is a 4mth free trial download from microsoft all legit so no need to find dodgy keys or shit, thats plenty of time to find if you like it or not.
Try far cry with the 64bit patch, its amazing, i didnt have a game that refused to work, well apart from starforce protected games, but that thing causes shit wherever it appears
and they now have 64bit drivers or so i have read
with the correct drivers everything seemed to work perfect, like i said all the games i tried worked, that included doom3, quake4, rome total war, sniper elite (cracked version) call of duty 2. Im not much of a productivity kind of person i play games n surf, it does all that fast, definately no speed loss in anything, obviously due to the type of site this is its not going to suit some ppl for one reason or another, but as a general operating system definately a thumbs up from me
One thing that is definately noticable, the sound, i have a sblive value card and going from 32 to 64bit xp pro, i couldnt beleive how good the 64 bit sounded, really cant explain it, maybe im imagining it but it just seems to sound so much better.
One other thing, i made the transition from 3.11 to 95, im sure theres a lot of ppl here who remember the days, u had no drivers, u had no hardware, u had drivers u had no stability, one day it worked one day it didnt, xp64 works, its fast, it seems secure, there is free for personal use 64bit antivirus and firewalls available, look around u will find them.
If i could compare this to any windows jump 3.whatever to 95 95 to 98 98 to 2000 (ive pretty much used had tried every version even if it was only for a day (windows millenium)) it would be going from windows 95 to 2000 without the bugs and service packs, its ready to use out of the box, you may need to search for a driver or three but it seems most mainstream maufacturers are providing support now, i know abit, asus, ati, nvidia and via are.
I`ll find out the links for the firewall and av good luck have fun.
oh yeah on another thought, where are computers and computing going, not backwards, in 12mnths were not going to using 16bit os, i think the sooner ppl make the jump wether its a linux jump or a windows jump its got to be made, like it or not you will be making the jump to a 64bit os, the more that make it now the better, the more emails and complaints that get sent to lazy ass manufacturers that arnt supporting as they should be the better!
just my smelly thoughts
cheers
Try far cry with the 64bit patch, its amazing, i didnt have a game that refused to work, well apart from starforce protected games, but that thing causes shit wherever it appears
and they now have 64bit drivers or so i have read with the correct drivers everything seemed to work perfect, like i said all the games i tried worked, that included doom3, quake4, rome total war, sniper elite (cracked version) call of duty 2. Im not much of a productivity kind of person i play games n surf, it does all that fast, definately no speed loss in anything, obviously due to the type of site this is its not going to suit some ppl for one reason or another, but as a general operating system definately a thumbs up from me
One thing that is definately noticable, the sound, i have a sblive value card and going from 32 to 64bit xp pro, i couldnt beleive how good the 64 bit sounded, really cant explain it, maybe im imagining it but it just seems to sound so much better.
One other thing, i made the transition from 3.11 to 95, im sure theres a lot of ppl here who remember the days, u had no drivers, u had no hardware, u had drivers u had no stability, one day it worked one day it didnt, xp64 works, its fast, it seems secure, there is free for personal use 64bit antivirus and firewalls available, look around u will find them.
If i could compare this to any windows jump 3.whatever to 95 95 to 98 98 to 2000 (ive pretty much used had tried every version even if it was only for a day (windows millenium)) it would be going from windows 95 to 2000 without the bugs and service packs, its ready to use out of the box, you may need to search for a driver or three but it seems most mainstream maufacturers are providing support now, i know abit, asus, ati, nvidia and via are.
I`ll find out the links for the firewall and av good luck have fun.
oh yeah on another thought, where are computers and computing going, not backwards, in 12mnths were not going to using 16bit os, i think the sooner ppl make the jump wether its a linux jump or a windows jump its got to be made, like it or not you will be making the jump to a 64bit os, the more that make it now the better, the more emails and complaints that get sent to lazy ass manufacturers that arnt supporting as they should be the better!
just my smelly thoughts
cheers
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a few 64bit links
windows xp 64 free trial
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/evaluation/trial.mspx
this is legit, iirc u only need an email address, may be wrong but for a 4 mnth trial got to be worth a go.
large compatibility list here http://www.ukgamer.com/article.php4?action=win64
antivirus
http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
support http://forum.avast.com/
aparently nod32 has full 64bit support, havnt tried it so cant comment
http://www.nod32.com/home/home.htm
firewall
this is tinys version seem a bit complicated to me but definatly worth a trial (thats what i think it is anyway not too sure, 30 days i think)
http://www.tinysoftware.com/home/tiny2?la=EN
support http://www.tinysoftware.com/forum/
this one is free
http://www.ghostsecurity.com/index.php?page=ghostwall
From the site
"GhostWall is a firewall which allows you to restrict the communications between your computer and others. Unlike other firewalls which have forgotten their main role, GhostWall is simply a firewall mainly designed to replace the standard Microsoft firewall with better features and performance."
Features
Packet filtering ability for TCP/UDP/RAW and ICMP.
64-bit and 32-bit compatible
Suitable firewall for people who play games and other low latency requirements
Very Low resource usage
Shows the country related to an IP address
Minimal impact to network latency due to fast and efficient coding
Shows network speed for TCP/UDP/RAW and ICMP
Shows data transfered for TCP/UDP/RAW and ICMP
Displays 50 last blocked and allowed packets for TCP/UDP/RAW and ICMP
Panic buttons, to allow all traffic, or to block all traffic.
never tried it but what ive read the impresion i get is this could be a very good firewall if a little time is taken to understand and create the correct rules.
support http://www.wilderssecurity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=76
A gui for windows native firewall
http://sphinx-soft.com/XP/
i did try grisoft 64bit trial avg and firewall, i like there stuff, the free 32 bit av is cool never had a problem with it but there site is saying they have a trial of 64 bit av and a firewall, the firewall only picked up on 32bit apps, it ignored 64 bit apps in a 64 bit os even something as simple as running internet explorer, it would ask if i wanted to let explorer 32 bit access the internet but completely ignore the fact that i had just run 64bit ie and started to downlaod something!!!!!!
Which leads to another thing, not sure if the proggy ur running in windows64 is 32 bit or 64bit, bring up windows task manager all running processes are shown 32 bit processes have *32 next to them.
have fun tc
cheers
windows xp 64 free trial
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/evaluation/trial.mspx
this is legit, iirc u only need an email address, may be wrong but for a 4 mnth trial got to be worth a go.
large compatibility list here http://www.ukgamer.com/article.php4?action=win64
antivirus
http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
support http://forum.avast.com/
aparently nod32 has full 64bit support, havnt tried it so cant comment
http://www.nod32.com/home/home.htm
firewall
this is tinys version seem a bit complicated to me but definatly worth a trial (thats what i think it is anyway not too sure, 30 days i think)
http://www.tinysoftware.com/home/tiny2?la=EN
support http://www.tinysoftware.com/forum/
this one is free
http://www.ghostsecurity.com/index.php?page=ghostwall
From the site
"GhostWall is a firewall which allows you to restrict the communications between your computer and others. Unlike other firewalls which have forgotten their main role, GhostWall is simply a firewall mainly designed to replace the standard Microsoft firewall with better features and performance."
Features
Packet filtering ability for TCP/UDP/RAW and ICMP.
64-bit and 32-bit compatible
Suitable firewall for people who play games and other low latency requirements
Very Low resource usage
Shows the country related to an IP address
Minimal impact to network latency due to fast and efficient coding
Shows network speed for TCP/UDP/RAW and ICMP
Shows data transfered for TCP/UDP/RAW and ICMP
Displays 50 last blocked and allowed packets for TCP/UDP/RAW and ICMP
Panic buttons, to allow all traffic, or to block all traffic.
never tried it but what ive read the impresion i get is this could be a very good firewall if a little time is taken to understand and create the correct rules.
support http://www.wilderssecurity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=76
A gui for windows native firewall
http://sphinx-soft.com/XP/
i did try grisoft 64bit trial avg and firewall, i like there stuff, the free 32 bit av is cool never had a problem with it but there site is saying they have a trial of 64 bit av and a firewall, the firewall only picked up on 32bit apps, it ignored 64 bit apps in a 64 bit os even something as simple as running internet explorer, it would ask if i wanted to let explorer 32 bit access the internet but completely ignore the fact that i had just run 64bit ie and started to downlaod something!!!!!!
Which leads to another thing, not sure if the proggy ur running in windows64 is 32 bit or 64bit, bring up windows task manager all running processes are shown 32 bit processes have *32 next to them.
have fun tc
cheers
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what happens after the 4 month trial ?
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can someone also tell me too, i have two hard drives, one is my main windows drive (sata), the other is just used as storage and its an ide drive.thomson said:will someone who has x64 do me a favour , please install a copy of EA fifa 06 (full game) and see if it works ok ??
cheers mates
If I install windows x64 onto the main sata drive, will x64 still be able to see my other storage drive that has all my files and sh*t stored on ?
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doesnt matter, ive answered my own questions here.
windows x64 is installed, seems to be running no probs at all, i had to get the latest 64 bit drivers from my motherboard manufacturer, but that wasnt a prob, the 64bit drivers are widely available now.
all my programs so far seem to be running well as they did with 32bit edition, only one that clearly doesnt work is norton internet security 2006, so i will need to get another firewall program in the meantime, this windows firewall is pure pish man, blocks stuff it shouldnt etc.
anyway, blah blah blah, thats the script guys, and ohh yes, fifa 2006 works too with x64. (had to get the latest 64bit joypad driver though, so keep that in mind if your upgrading, make sure you can get a 64bit pad driver for your pad)
:Cheers:
windows x64 is installed, seems to be running no probs at all, i had to get the latest 64 bit drivers from my motherboard manufacturer, but that wasnt a prob, the 64bit drivers are widely available now.
all my programs so far seem to be running well as they did with 32bit edition, only one that clearly doesnt work is norton internet security 2006, so i will need to get another firewall program in the meantime, this windows firewall is pure pish man, blocks stuff it shouldnt etc.
anyway, blah blah blah, thats the script guys, and ohh yes, fifa 2006 works too with x64. (had to get the latest 64bit joypad driver though, so keep that in mind if your upgrading, make sure you can get a 64bit pad driver for your pad)
:Cheers:
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jaygotgame said:
Yea, iam using the avast antivirus too, seems to be pretty good, i ran a scan with it on my storage drive and it picked up a trojan that norton missed.
I still havent decided what firewall program to go for yet, iam hoping someone suggests a good easy to use 64bit compatible one, as i said, this windows firewall is pure crap.
I would much prefer if i had an all in one internet security package though, ive always been used to the norton internet security packages that do the lot, so maybe someone can let me know if there are any good 64bit compatible ones going around.
cheers :Cheers:
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In windows x64 in the local drive, i notice that there are two "program file folders" ?? (see attached pic).
One called simply "program files" and the other "program files (x86)", can someone tell me exactly why this is and what it means please ? (i know what the program file folders are for etc, i just dont know why two now).
I see that I can install programs to either of those folders, so what one should I install stuff too and/or can I just do away with the other folder if I only need use one ??? as of now, ive been installing stuff on both of them, but I dont see what difference it make ?? maybe someone can elaborate on this subject ?
Also, ive noticed that there are two "internet explorers", one 32bit and one 64bit, ive tried both and I must admit that the 64bit one blows the socks off 32bit, or maybe iam just imagining it, i dunno ??? Can someone tell me about that too.
cheers guys
EDIT :>>> its ok guys, ive found the answer to both my questions, heres the answers for anyone who was wondering >>
Q. Why do some of my programs install into the Program Files Directory, and others into the Program Files (X86) directory?
A. Windows XP Professional x64 Edition redirects the \Program Files directory for all programs that are 32-bit during the installation to the \Program Files(x86) directory. Programs that 64-bit are installed into the \Program Files directory.
and
Q. Why are there two versions of Internet Explorer?
A. There are both 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Internet Explorer in Windows XP Professional x64 Edition. The default browser is the 32-bit version of Internet Explorer 6. The 32-bit version is the default because many sites depend on components that haven't been ported to the 64-bit version.
p.s
what iam wondering now is, what happens if you accidentally install a 32bit program into the 64bit section and vice versa, could that cause any bother or will windows sort it, its self ??? I have defo installed some 32bit programs in the 64bit program folder, seems to be ok but that doesnt mean it is ok to do so, maybe someone can help, sorry about the longgggg post guys
One called simply "program files" and the other "program files (x86)", can someone tell me exactly why this is and what it means please ? (i know what the program file folders are for etc, i just dont know why two now).
I see that I can install programs to either of those folders, so what one should I install stuff too and/or can I just do away with the other folder if I only need use one ??? as of now, ive been installing stuff on both of them, but I dont see what difference it make ?? maybe someone can elaborate on this subject ?
Also, ive noticed that there are two "internet explorers", one 32bit and one 64bit, ive tried both and I must admit that the 64bit one blows the socks off 32bit, or maybe iam just imagining it, i dunno ??? Can someone tell me about that too.
cheers guys
EDIT :>>> its ok guys, ive found the answer to both my questions, heres the answers for anyone who was wondering >>
Q. Why do some of my programs install into the Program Files Directory, and others into the Program Files (X86) directory?
A. Windows XP Professional x64 Edition redirects the \Program Files directory for all programs that are 32-bit during the installation to the \Program Files(x86) directory. Programs that 64-bit are installed into the \Program Files directory.
and
Q. Why are there two versions of Internet Explorer?
A. There are both 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Internet Explorer in Windows XP Professional x64 Edition. The default browser is the 32-bit version of Internet Explorer 6. The 32-bit version is the default because many sites depend on components that haven't been ported to the 64-bit version.
p.s
what iam wondering now is, what happens if you accidentally install a 32bit program into the 64bit section and vice versa, could that cause any bother or will windows sort it, its self ??? I have defo installed some 32bit programs in the 64bit program folder, seems to be ok but that doesnt mean it is ok to do so, maybe someone can help, sorry about the longgggg post guys
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thomson said:tried avast and ghostwall and they seem to be great
Tried ghostwall, the only problem with it is that it allows all programs internet access, so i'm now using tiny personal firewall.
I uninstalled nvidia firewall because it conflicts with utorrent, tried re-installing it later and can't...gutted
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