Iain Duncan Smith calls petition urging him to live on £53 a week a stunt

[gav12345]

also lets not forget the ones that are really disabled.

The top five items people would have to reduce spending on if they did not qualify for the PIP were: household goods like food and drink, utility bills, specialist transport and health needs such as medication and therapies.

Papworth Trust chief executive Adrian Bragg said: "Disabled people's daily costs are typically 25% higher than those of non-disabled people.

"We know that all parts of society are facing cuts. Our survey shows that for 5% of disabled people, these cuts would have little or no effect, but given the government is seeking a 20% reduction, this will mean real-terms cuts that further disadvantage many disabled people."

 

[edogg]

15,000 millionaires get a tax rebate how is that a fair society

 

[miggy]

Queen gets a pay rise after receiving another £5million of taxpayers' money for official duties. Oh lovely some more surplus cash going to a good cause while the average family get feck all. Lar de da ffs.
Queen gets a pay rise after receiving another £5million of taxpayers' money for official duties | Mail Online

 

[D 8 RCS]

i cant imagine there is anybody on this site that doesn't know at least a few people or even family that are conning the system out of a few bob every week.

So, I assume you know a few people conning the system. Easy solution.....Report them.
But do you really know a few people conning the system or is it a case of you know someone who knows someone who is conning the system.
I agree there are some conning the system and you could no doubt point them out at the Job Centre, but the Telegraph story contradicts the official government figures that only 1% of Benefit money is subject to fraud.
This type of story is published to get ordinary working class people turn against each other, a quote from that story is "Also coming in is an overall benefits cap, which will prevent any household receiving more than £26,000 a year in total benefits payments - a figure set to reflect the average gross salary of a full time worker"
This is the supposed average salary................how many people do you know earning that amount (is it as many as the one's scamming the system ?).
There in lies the REAL PROBLEM !!
The Working Wage is Too Low !!!!!!

As for IDS living on £53 a week (petition signed by the way) he has no idea, he seems to think that will be for food only.............£53 a week on food, that would be a luxury !
How much does he think will be left once deductions are made to cover Gas, Electric, Water Rates, TV Licence, washing powder, personal hygiene (shaving items for men, soap, tampons etc for women) and remember this money also has to provide shoes, clothing, up keep of the general standards of the household which on occasions will mean decorating.
If the person on benefits has recently been moved (say perhaps because they had to downsize because of the "bedroom tax" for example) they will have to for got having carpets, tough if the old curtains don't fit the new windows, they will just have to get used to sleeping in the neon orange bedroom until they can afford a can of paint. Oh, and their old suite wouldn't fit in through the doors so they will just have to sit on deck-chairs. Yeah, but they are benefit scroungers and look at the 50" Plasma screen TV, forget the fact that the TV is 5 years old and was bought when they were in full time employment. Luckily having been on benefits for a year or so and the cost of the move has meant they don't have many valuables left, because the new house is in a high crime area and they cannot afford household insurance.
This is the reality.

 

[miggy]

So, I assume you know a few people conning the system. Easy solution.....Report them.
But do you really know a few people conning the system or is it a case of you know someone who knows someone who is conning the system.
I agree there are some conning the system and you could no doubt point them out at the Job Centre, but the Telegraph story contradicts the official government figures that only 1% of Benefit money is subject to fraud.
This type of story is published to get ordinary working class people turn against each other, a quote from that story is "Also coming in is an overall benefits cap, which will prevent any household receiving more than £26,000 a year in total benefits payments - a figure set to reflect the average gross salary of a full time worker"
This is the supposed average salary................how many people do you know earning that amount (is it as many as the one's scamming the system ?).
There in lies the REAL PROBLEM !!
The Working Wage is Too Low !!!!!!

As for IDS living on £53 a week (petition signed by the way) he has no idea, he seems to think that will be for food only.............£53 a week on food, that would be a luxury !
How much does he think will be left once deductions are made to cover Gas, Electric, Water Rates, TV Licence, washing powder, personal hygiene (shaving items for men, soap, tampons etc for women) and remember this money also has to provide shoes, clothing, up keep of the general standards of the household which on occasions will mean decorating.
If the person on benefits has recently been moved (say perhaps because they had to downsize because of the "bedroom tax" for example) they will have to for got having carpets, tough if the old curtains don't fit the new windows, they will just have to get used to sleeping in the neon orange bedroom until they can afford a can of paint. Oh, and their old suite wouldn't fit in through the doors so they will just have to sit on deck-chairs. Yeah, but they are benefit scroungers and look at the 50" Plasma screen TV, forget the fact that the TV is 5 years old and was bought when they were in full time employment. Luckily having been on benefits for a year or so and the cost of the move has meant they don't have many valuables left, because the new house is in a high crime area and they cannot afford household insurance.
This is the reality.

Totally agree with what you are saying who are these people on £26,000 per year though?.That would perhaps be to working adults wages in full time employment maybe. Working wage to low mate??. It will indeed get lower while this Country is being flooded by immigrants who are willing to work for peanuts. Unfortunately the way things are going it will be a case of British workers either take a drop in wage or the immigrants will take your job.Top Rank soldiers being made redundant to make room for in experienced young soldiers for a cheaper wage??? that is indeed another problem in cost cutting. If there is another War these kids will be on the front line trying to save the Country, after only just learning how to tie there own shoelaces. It's all wrong.

 

[Spectre]

Reducing the minimum wage was discussed lately, they've said it won't happen however:

Minimum wage will not be cut, Number 10 says - Telegraph

 

[CoolHandLuke]

Why cant there be a bonus put in place for genuine job seeker's, like a standard benefit $70 a week for everyone but a $10 bonus for every genuine job interview they attend.

I admit I am classed as disabled, but I have got a really bad mashed up ankle and other injuries which I done working as oil tank cleaner and fitter apprentice down the ship yards, I did pay stamps for several years and have been self employed on and off over the last few years, But I always sign off the benefit system when I can, mainly in the summer because more work becomes available.

The last job Interview I attended was for ASDA mainly just stock taking in the back, you know what over 900 people applied for the job most were school leavers with decent Qualifications, and it was for a minimum wage, It was a joke, I had more chance getting called up for Newcastle United.

Top and bottom is... not everyone is playing the system as most people think, there is genuine people/family's out there that are willing to work, but struggling to find employment, and there living on the bread line and struggling.

If I did not get the odd job fixing computers and painting and stuff of friends and family, "I would starve" I would hate to see my son live a life on $53 a week It is just not possible WTF !!!!

There has to be something put in place for young people who really are looking for work maybe at least a suit voucher, free access to a phone for all landlines, help with public transport fees, and Incentive to get to Interviews.

At the minute the system is just not working !!!! slashing job seekers is not going to help.

 

[Rumpelstiltskin.]

Why do you want paying in $?

 

[CoolHandLuke]

Why do you want paying in $?

LOL Because I replaced my keyboard with an American one off ebay and it has no pound sign, does the job for $7.99 though.

 

[Him Her]

If language is set to UK then Shift-3 isn't '#', it's '£'

 

[CoolHandLuke]

If language is set to UK then Shift-3 isn't '#', it's '£'

££££££££££ I am in the money I had the key board set to uk but I never went into advanced key settings and changed it in there.

Good man H&H

 

[thomasjcat]

Signed the petition.....

 

[miggy]

Received an Email from Dom Aversano the man who started the petition off. :
Dear ******

Thanks for signing my petition, "Iain Duncan Smith: Iain Duncan Smith to live on £53 a week.."

Can you help this petition win by asking your friends to sign too? It's easy to share with your friends on Facebook - just click here to share the petition on Facebook.

There's also a sample email below that you can forward to your friends.

Thanks again -- together we're making change happen,

Dom Aversano

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Note to forward to your friends:

Hi!

I just signed the petition "Iain Duncan Smith: Iain Duncan Smith to live on £53 a week." on Change.org.

It's important. Will you sign it too? Here's the link:

http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/iain-duncan-smith-iain-duncan-smith-to-live-on-53-a-week

Thanks!

******

 

[Rumpelstiltskin.]

Signed...........

 

[miggy]

Sorry guys this is Dom Aversano and his story. As you can see he is just an average guy like you and I just trying to make a statement against this idiot Iain Duncan Smith. What a great way to do it. :Clap:

Dom Aversano: Why I Want Iain Duncan Smith to Try Living on £53 a Week

 

[dave24]

Signed....

 

[snp-g]

I believe the petition is now at 335,000 or more.

 

[edogg]

the simple fact is the Conservative Party have never been for the average person they mostly attend private schools and university and do not want the average person to do anything other than provide wealth for the wealthy and bodies for the armed forces We pay a greater percentange of or income in tax and and liing expenses so the wealthy can get wealthier on our labour

 

[m4rkyw]

while reading through some of the links posted i came across this from Nicky Clark who classes herself as a TRUE BLUE conservative, the fecking snide trout gives us an inside look into the thinking of the rich who she defends along with bankers, you need to read the story from, Nicky Clark: Stop Bullying, Ian (Iain) Duncan Smith

this is part of what she says
"Poor people smell. Therefore what decent minded, nasally functional Minister for The Department of Work and Pensions would want to spend time in the company of those who will be challenging."

"Poor people often live in the North and in the Midlands."

 

[hatab]

those asking who gets £26000 a year,

Nurse

newly qualified Nurse who works in London Agenda for change - pay rates - NHS Careers

newly qualified Nurse is on Band 5 point 16 with a minimum of £4000 London waiting. just a shade under £26000


Firemen

There is a nationally agreed salary structure for firefighters. The starting salary for a trainee firefighter is £21,157. When full competence is achieved, this rises to £28,199.


Policemen

Salaries vary between forces but the typical starting salary for police constables in England and Wales is £22,680 on commencing service and £25,317 on completion of the initial training period. In Scotland and Northern Ireland, the typical starting salary is £23,259, rising to £25,962 after the intial training period.