Europe fast-tracking swine flu vaccine

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LONDON – In a drive to inoculate people against swine flu before winter, many European governments say they will fast-track the testing of a new flu vaccine, arousing concern among some experts about safety issues and proper vaccine doses.

The European Medicines Agency, the EU's top drug regulatory body, is accelerating the approval process for swine flu vaccine, and countries such as Britain, Greece, France and Sweden say they'll start using the vaccine after it's greenlighted — possibly within weeks.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Dr. Keiji Fukuda, the World Health Organization's flu chief, warned about the potential dangers of untested vaccines, although he stopped short of criticizing Europe's approach outright.

"One of the things which cannot be compromised is the safety of vaccines," he said Friday. "There are certain areas where you can make economies, perhaps, but certain areas where you simply do not try to make any economies."

Flu vaccines have been used for 40 years, and many experts say extensive testing is unnecessary, since the swine flu vaccine will simply contain a new ingredient: the swine flu virus.

But European officials won't know if the new vaccine causes any rare side effects until millions of people get the shots. Still, they say the benefit of saving lives is worth the gamble.

"Everybody is doing the best they can in a situation which is far from ideal," said Martin Harvey-Allchurch, a spokesman for the European Medicines Agency. "With the winter flu season approaching, we need to make sure the vaccine is available."

In Europe, flu vaccines are usually tested on hundreds of people for several weeks or months, to ensure the immune system produces enough antibodies to fight the infection.

But to ensure swine flu vaccine is available as soon as possible, the European Medicines Agency is allowing companies to skip testing in large numbers of people before the vaccine is approved.

The main issue is probably that without thorough testing it's difficult to gauge the effective dosage — meaning Europeans might get too weak a vaccine. It's unlikely the vaccine would endanger anyone, but until it is used in large numbers of people, no one will know for sure.

Europeans appear ready to use the vaccine widely before conducting any big studies to prove it is safe and effective. Neither the vaccine makers nor the European Medicines Agency would specify what basic safety tests are being done.

The U.S. is taking a more cautious approach: the government called Wednesday for several thousand volunteers to be injected with the swine flu vaccine in tests beginning in August to assess the vaccine's safety. American officials said results should be ready by the time the U.S. plans to roll out a vaccination campaign in October.

Results from the U.S. tests will be of limited use to Europe, since countries like Britain plan to start vaccinating as early as August — before any American trial data is available. The vaccines used in the U.S. will also be different from those in Europe.

Some experts favor urgent action.

"The consequences of not having a vaccine if this virus gets worse are very high," said Leonard Marcus, a public health expert at Harvard University. "If (regulatory authorities) took all the time that was necessary to make sure there are no side effects, ironically, in the effort to save a few lives, many lives could be lost."

But critics say dangers lurk in any strategy to vaccinate without robust testing.

Scant information exists on flu vaccines with adjuvants, a component used to stretch the active ingredient that is commonly found in European flu vaccines. There are no licensed flu vaccines with the ingredient in the U.S.

There is also limited or no data on the safety and effectiveness of vaccines with adjuvants in children under 3 and pregnant women — two of the most vulnerable groups in a pandemic — a global outbreak.

Mass swine flu vaccination campaigns will also take place in the shadow of the 1976 swine flu disaster, when hundreds of people in the U.S. developed Guillain-Barre syndrome, a paralyzing disorder, after being vaccinated.

Experts don't know why that happened, but say modern vaccine production techniques have improved since 1976. To avoid a similar episode, some say comprehensive testing before the vaccine is rolled out is essential.

"I can't see any possible excuse to not test it for safety before it's given to anyone," said George Annas, a bioethics expert at Boston University.

If the vaccine turns out to have dangerous side effects, it could generate a public backlash, particularly in a country like Britain, where many people remain suspicious of vaccines because of unsubstantiated allegations linking the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine to autism. That could lead to millions of people refusing vaccination.

When the bird flu crisis hit several years ago, the European Medicines Agency designed a special protocol to approve a vaccine for use in a pandemic as soon as possible.

The agency let companies submit data for a "mock-up" vaccine, using H5N1 bird flu. The idea was to do most of the testing before the global epidemic hit so when it did, drugmakers could insert the pandemic virus into the vaccine at the last minute.

When the first swine flu vaccine doses are ready, the European Medicines Agency will approve them largely based on data from the bird flu vaccine, since both will have the same basic ingredients.

If the agency thinks the bird flu data predicts how the swine flu virus will work, they will approve it, said spokesman Harvey-Allchurch.

The agency will then require regular reporting of the vaccine's effects as it is being administered — monitoring that is normally done beforehand.

WHO's Fukuda said everyone involved in making the vaccine, from manufacturers to regulatory agencies, is looking at what steps can be taken to streamline the process.

"But there is no one who disagrees that one of the absolutes is that there can't be any question whether the vaccine is safe or not," he said.

WHO reported that the swine flu viruses aren't producing enough of a key vaccine ingredient, which may limit how much vaccine is available. Its laboratory network is now working to produce a new set of viruses that it hopes will work better.

Drugmakers including Baxter International, GlaxoSmithKline PLC, Novartis and Sanofi-Pasteur, however, insist they will be able to start shipping the first batches of vaccine soon.

British health officials have repeatedly said they will start vaccinating in August, as soon as the vaccine is approved. Other European countries, including Greece, France, Sweden, say they will use the vaccine after it gets the green light from the European agency, but none other than Britain expect to start the shots next month.

source: Europe fast-tracking swine flu vaccine - Yahoo! News
 
in years to come Baxter will be remembered as one of the biggest mass murderers in human history. enjoy ur euthanasia at gunpoint ..



Global Depopulation Program Underway?

by Jane Burgermeister – Global Research July 21, 2009

WHO moves forward in secrecy to accomplish forced vaccination and population agenda

The WHO has refused to release the Minutes of a key meeting of an advisory vaccine group – packed with executives from Baxter, Novartis and Sanofi – that recommended compulsory vaccinations in the USA, Europe and other countries against the artificial H1N1 “swine flu” virus this autumn.

In an email this morning, a WHO spokesperson claimed there are no Minutes of the meeting that took place on July 7th in which guidelines on the need for worldwide vaccinations that WH0 adopted this Monday were formulated and in which Baxter and other pharma executives participated.

Under the International Health Regulations, WHO guidelines have a binding character on all of WHO’s 194 signatory countries in the event of a pandemic emergency of the kind anticipated this autumn when the second more lethal wave of the H1N1 virus — which is bioengineered to resemble the Spanish flu virus — emerges.

In short: WHO has the authority to force everyone in those 194 countries to take a vaccine this fall at gunpoint, impose quarantines and restrict travel.

There is verifiable, clear and unambiguous proof that WHO supplied the live bird flu virus to Baxter’s subsidiary in Austria, which was used by Baxter to manufacture 72 kilos of vaccine material in February.

Baxter subsequently sent this material out to 16 labs in four countries under a false label designating the contaminated product as vaccine material, so nearly triggering a global pandemic.

Because Baxter must adhere to strict biosafety level 3 regulations when handling a dangerus virus such as the bird flu virus, the production and distribution of so much pandemic material cannot have been an accident but must have been done by Baxter with criminal intent.

The Austrian police are now investigating after I filed criminal charges in April.

It is increasingly clear that WHO and Baxter are just elements in a much bigger criminal organisation that is moving forward in a synchronised and coordinated way to fulfil the “elite” agenda of global population reduction in the coming months and years while putting in place a global government of which WHO will be an arm.

WHO, a UN agency, appears to play a key role in coordinating the activities of labs, vaccine companies and governments to achieve the goal of population reduction and political and economic take over of North America and Europe:

- First, WHO gives funds, support and cover to labs such as the CDC to bioprospect for pathogens, bioengineer them to make them more deadly, and also patent them.

- Second, WHO gives those same deadly bioengineered pathogens to companies such as Baxter in Austria, so that Baxter could use those viruses to deliberately, systematically contaminate vaccine material. If the contamination of the 72 kilos had not been detection on time by a lab technician in the Czech Republic, millions of people would have caught the “bird flu” from the injections.

- Third, in the event of a pandemic, WHO orders a compulsory vaccines for all 194 countries, following “recommendations” by an advisory vaccine group on which executives of Baxter also sit.

- Fourth, WHO awards Baxter, Novartis, Sanofi and other companies lucrative contracts to supply those vaccines.

Furthermore, WHO acquires new global authority on an unseen scale in the event of a pandemic.

Under special pandemic plans enacted around the world including the USA, in 2005, national governments are to be dissolved in the event of a pandemic emergency and replaced by special crisis committees, which take charge of the health and security infrastructure of a country, and which are answerable to the WHO and EU in Europe and to the WHO and UN in North America.

If the Model Emergency Health Powers Act is implemented on the instructions of WHI, it will be a criminal offence for Americans to refuse the vaccine. Police are allowed to use deadly force against “criminal” suspects.

Through their control of these special pandemic crisis committees with the power to enact legislation to be set up most countries, the WHO, UN and EU become the de facto government of a large part of the world.

Mass murder and death will also bring economic collapse and disruption, starvation and wars – and these events will lead to a further population reduction.

To sum up: WHO helps create, distribute and then release the deadly pandemic virus, and this pandemic virus allows WHO to assume control of governments in North America and Europe and also order forced vaccination on populations by the very same companies that have distributed and released the deadly viruses in the first place and all under under the pretext of protecting populations from a pandemic they have created.

The corporate mainstream media owned by the same “elite” group which funds WHO is systematically concealing from the general public the nature of the real danger of these H1N1 jabs by withholding from them key information concerning the interrelated activities of this group of organisations for their mutual profit.

As a result, most people still believe that the H1N1 virus is a natural swine flu when even WHO has officially dropped the term “swine” in tactic acknowledgement of its artificial origin.

Most people still believe the vaccine companies can deliver a cure when the vaccine companies are preparing a lethal series of shots containg live attenuated virus, toxic metals and other poisons.

The two-dose H1N1 shots are designed to disable the immune system and then load that system with a live virus in a process that mirrors the one described in two of WHO’s 1972 memoranda where the technical means for turning vaccines into killers is outlined.

The Strecker Memorandum also reveals that WHO has been actively searching for ways to weaken the immune system.

The best protection against the H1N1 virus that has now been released and that will inevtiably become more lethal as it mutates in autumn is colloidal silver and also vitamins to strengthen the immune system, face masks and other such measures.

However, none of the governments in North America or Europe have stocked up on colloidal silver or announced sensible health measures to contain the coming lethal wave.

Instead, there are growing signs, they will use the panic to terrify people into taking the toxic vaccines which are sure to cause injury or damage because of the presence of heavy metals alone.

This mass vaccination will moreover alllow ever more lethal strains to emerge and also provide a cover for a release of bird flu virus or other pathogens.

This is why steps need to be taken now to stop the mass vaccinations anticipated in autumn by taking legal action to block the distribution of vaccines and/or laws allowing govenrments to force people to take vaccinations.

An investigation into this international corporate crime syndicate has to be conducted in every country because it has its tentacles in every country, and to try to initiate this in the USA, I filed charges with the FBI against WHO and the UN among other defendants in June. I included President Obama among the defendants because I believe the time has come to identify and isolate the core members of this international corporate criminal group which has annexed high government office in the USA, and put them in prison once and for all, and there are reports that Obama has direct financial links with Baxter that need to be investigated by law enforcement.

There is evidence the Austrian Health Minister and other officials have been helping Baxter to cover its tracks.

Also, there is clear evidence that elements of the Austrian media are involved in actively spreading lies and misinformation to lull people into a false sense of security concerning Baxter’s manufacture and distribution of pandemic material in Austria this February.

Vital is for individuals and local authorities need to take effective measures to protect against the coming lethal wave of the H1N1 virus to minimise its impact.

To find to out about the charges I have filed so far in German and English in Austria also with the FBI, please check the wakenews website.

Source: WHO moves forward in secrecy to accomplish forced vaccination and population agenda


Lets hope its just another conspiracy theory eh ;)
 
Wake me up when you've finished. :sleep:

Haven't you got some decent DW law abiding citizens to get banned, you know the sort .. the ones you don't agree with? Surprised I'm still here tbh.
 
It's ridiculous to think that a vaccine that will be given to the whole population can be tested safely in a few months without knowing if there are to be any long term side effects.

I think I'll stick with a hanky over the mouth if things get really bad.

Why don't we just have a national holiday for a week where everyone stays at home and thus stopping the spread of this virus? Would it work?
 
It's ridiculous to think that a vaccine that will be given to the whole population can be tested safely in a few months without knowing if there are to be any long term side effects.

I think I'll stick with a hanky over the mouth if things get really bad.

Why don't we just have a national holiday for a week where everyone stays at home and thus stopping the spread of this virus? Would it work?


No mate wouldnt work, people just wouldn't stay in :( Would have to be a enforced quarantine which will be military controlled :(
 
No mate wouldnt work, people just wouldn't stay in :( Would have to be a enforced quarantine which will be military controlled :(

That would play right into the conspiracy theorists hands. But do you think a military quarantine work in theory, seems plausible enough rather than risk our health over untested vaccines?
 
That would play right into the conspiracy theorists hands. But do you think a military quarantine work in theory, seems plausible enough rather than risk our health over untested vaccines?



Nope, I think the chavs and muppets would go out in force to just fight them.... but what can ya do lol
 
Well it just seems a little over the top spending so much money on a vaccination without proper testing when some face masks and diligent behaviour could do roughly the same without harming our bodies.

If we do go down the vaccination route I'd test the drugs on prisoners, the unemployed, the poor and benefit seekers first so as to minimise the impact on the economy should things go wrong. It is with these groups that there is poor sanitation and thus they are at most risk of spreading the disease.
 
The surgical masks you see people wearing on the news/in the paper won't do SFA to prevent the swine flu (or any flu for that matter), and may even increase the risk of you catching it.
 
If we do go down the vaccination route I'd test the drugs on prisoners, the unemployed, the poor and benefit seekers first so as to minimise the impact on the economy should things go wrong. It is with these groups that there is poor sanitation and thus they are at most risk of spreading the disease.

Munkey. Can you please use this for your next avatar you kind, caring, bastard!

mother-theresa.jpg


I would not be too worried about the vaccine. It is just a slight genetic modification of the original H1N1 strain, much like how flu vaccines have been created for years.

There are some arguments to just let the virus do what it is going to do, and then let those that haven't already build up an immunity. The problem is genetic mutation, and what virus is created because of that.

The vaccine should handle any slight modifications (H1N1a, H1N1b etc.). The problem is going to be supply. If only a third of the world gets inoculated, is there a point?

The only downside is that they are also putting a special dye in it that makes us all believe that the Queen is not a lizard, and makes David Icke look like an idiot.
 
The surgical masks you see people wearing on the news/in the paper won't do SFA to prevent the swine flu (or any flu for that matter), and may even increase the risk of you catching it.

Totally correct mate, bugs like warm/moist areas.... all your doing by wearing a mask is giving them that.... they are airborne... a normal material mask is going to do squat.
 
That conspiracy theory crap sounds like the plot for the next batman film or something haha
 
No probs mozr. I did photoshop my face in into that image of that lady (whoever she is). If I'm going to be kind and save lives I want people to recognise me in the street and throw flowers at my feet and kiss my hand n stuff.
 
Cheers mother munkey.

You go girl, keep killing those dossers!
 
That conspiracy theory crap sounds like the plot for the next batman film or something haha

haha?, yes. how constructive. let's hope it is a theory.

If we do go down the vaccination route I'd test the drugs on prisoners, the unemployed, the poor and benefit seekers first so as to minimise the impact on the economy should things go wrong. It is with these groups that there is poor sanitation and thus they are at most risk of spreading the disease.

are you winding me up mate thats the most inflammatory comment i've ever read. it could only come from a delusioned immigrant or a Nazi. how grateful you are for our hospitality? .. oh i see, ur just kidding .. you are talking about the same economy the govt ballsed up? 500 BILLION on this years war budget alone .. out of the mouth of Gordon Brown on question time, you do watch it ? probably not.

most people are worth more dead than alive to these parasites, a good depopulation should fund the war on Iran, Russia and China ;) not that we could ever win it.


I would not be too worried about the vaccine. It is just a slight genetic modification of the original H1N1 strain, much like how flu vaccines have been created for years.

oh. thats all it is. if you say so mate, jack-o me up ;p


eyes peeled .. have a nice Tuesday.


Peace be with you.


:Cheers:
 
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