London Bridge Incident

buzzer said:

the death toll was limited on this attack due to the high police presence in centre of London.
they are using cars and knives now due to the high levels of security at airports.

as they want to cause as much damage as possible, their next logical step might be to target smaller busy towns which have less of a police presence.

there is no way the police can defend against them as it stands, what use is an unarmed bobby against a gang of maniacs with guns or knives?

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Sadly I think you've got it spot on mate. Its gonna be anywhere there is a crowd that's in danger. Nowhere is safe in my opinion. If a target is too difficult they will just find one that's softer and easy

My lad and his band were playing in London last night and where just packing up their gear just about the time this was going on. They were a couple of miles up the road of it but it was evident to them something was going on. Fortunatley for us he let us know they were all ok as soon as they knew what was going on.

The problem is while we have the 5th column living amongst us then non followers of the religion of peace will never be safe.

Accept your fate and deal with it in the usual way of holding vigils and announcing how united we all are. ****ing pathetic.

eon said:

The problem is while we have the 5th column living amongst us then non followers of the religion of peace will never be safe.

Accept your fate and deal with it in the usual way of holding vigils and announcing how united we all are. ****ing pathetic.

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Time to weed out the known extremist and make them dissapear

I said it in the last terror thread (Manchester) until we get dirty back and neutralise the threats, we will never be safe

The security services have averted 5, yes FIVE active major terrorist plots since Manchester, that's in just two weeks, all were well known to the security services as "Active"

All this money spent on watching this scum (3,000 known and up to 20,000 fringe players and recruiters) and then holding them in secure prisons for many years, must come to £millions

I would ask the question, How much does a bullet cost ? extinguish the threats once and for all

Bronto said:

I said it in the last terror thread (Manchester) until we get dirty back and neutralise the threats, we will never be safe

The security services have averted 5, yes FIVE active major terrorist plots since Manchester, that's in just two weeks, all were well known to the security services as "Active"

All this money spent on watching this scum (3,000 known and up to 20,000 fringe players and recruiters) and then holding them in secure prisons for many years, must come to £millions

I would ask the question, How much does a bullet it cost ? extinguish the threats once and for all

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Targets are and will get softer mate. It looks like and thank fook that the police are now on a shoot to kill policy. None of this shoot in the leg pish. I know STK will not deter the one way mission brigade but it may just deter copy cat wanabes

Bronto said:

All this money spent on watching this scum (3,000 known and up to 20,000 fringe players and recruiters) and then holding them in secure prisons for many years, must come to £millions

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Someone has to aknowledge that this is a war.

all known enemies, including the fringe players should face internment until a solution can be found.
why waste money "monitoring" your enemy?? clearly doesn't work...

it amazes me that the government allows 3000 terrorists to live freely in our country..
they'll be laughing up their cuffs at us, how we play all fair, freedom for all, while they practise with knives between prayers..

fookin disgusting, no backbone in the country..

It will only take a loose Police bullet to put paid to the Shoot to kill policy once the f**kin do gooders of our land start protesting with their Asda boxes on sticks.
The Police know who they are, they have a list of over 3000 lets get tough. Like I said before, they came down harder of football hooligans ans banning orders and taking your passport away than they do with these lot.

Lets start making them dissapear in the background, you dont fight a fire with a f88kin water pistol

IANB said:

Targets are and will get softer mate. It looks like and thank fook that the police are now on a shoot to kill policy. None of this shoot in the leg pish. I know STK will not deter the one way mission brigade but it may just deter copy cat wanabes

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Shoot to kill policy in place for definite mate (can't see that under a Corbyn government !!)

What I meant is we need make a pre emptive strike now before it's to late, take the scum out of the picture

Bronto said:

Shoot to kill policy in place for definite mate (can't see that under a Corbyn government !!)

What I meant is we need make a pre emptive strike now before it's to late, take the scum out of the picture

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Yes we do and I think it will start or have been started. To be effective it would need to be covert and kept that way. So who knows it could be happening. Back in the day it did in N.I during the troubles

Lets start with the internet providers, fine them heavily if they don't do more to bring down these sites, every bit helps.
The Muslim community, stop harbouring and do more, the father of the Manchester bomber was a regular prayer reader at his local Mosque. You can't tell me he didn't vocally speak out

silverdale said:

It will only take a loose Police bullet to put paid to the Shoot to kill policy once the f**kin do gooders of our land start protesting with their Asda boxes on sticks.
The Police know who they are, they have a list of over 3000 lets get tough. Like I said before, they came down harder of football hooligans ans banning orders and taking your passport away than they do with these lot.

Lets start making them dissapear in the background, you dont fight a fire with a f88kin water pistol

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a member of the public was shot accidently last night and is stable in hospital...

buzzer said:

Someone has to aknowledge that this is a war.

all known enemies, including the fringe players should face internment until a solution can be found.
why waste money "monitoring" your enemy?? clearly doesn't work...

it amazes me that the government allows 3000 terrorists to live freely in our country..
they'll be laughing up their cuffs at us, how we play all fair, freedom for all, while they practise with knives between prayers..

fookin disgusting, no backbone in the country...

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You will get all the do gooders saying internment doesn't work, they will say "look at the IRA in the 1970's, all internment did was breed more extremists in the prison populations in Ireland.

Well that's if you put these coward scum into the normal prison population, I would suggest we round them up and put them in guantanamo bay or similar, get what intelligence we can out of them and then execute the bastards

buzzer said:

a member of the public was shot accidently last night and is stable in hospital...

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That's sad and unfortunate but it can and will happen. But odds are a lot more could have or would have been killed if the police didn't do what they did.

i wouldn't put them into normal prison. special measures have to be taken at difficult times.

we are targeted becuase we are too soft, an easy hit..

that has to change..

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IANB said:

That's sad and unfortunate but it can and will happen. But odds are a lot more could have or would have been killed if the police didn't do what they did.

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agreed, people get injured during war.
there was also a transport policeman who tackled the three of them
he fought until they held him down and stabbed him in the face and leg according to reports.

i bet they dont release his name despite his heroic acts incase of reprisails.
shows who's boss really..

IANB said:

That's sad and unfortunate but it can and will happen. But odds are a lot more could have or would have been killed if the police didn't do what they did.

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Wait till the do gooders and anti gun lobby crew get hold of that !. Mind you , it wont affect these in their sleepy English village, the same people who protest that 20 new homes are been built near them.

silverdale said:

Lets start with the internet providers, fine them heavily if they don't do more to bring down these sites, every bit helps.
The Muslim community, stop harbouring and do more, the father of the Manchester bomber was a regular prayer reader at his local Mosque. You can't tell me he didn't vocally speak out

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unfortunatly, these attacks dont take place online, the Manchester bomber's parents were granted asylum here before he was born.

family timeline:

December 1965: Salman Abedi’s father, Ramadan Belgasem al-Obaidi (or Abedi), is born in Libya.
1991: Ramadan, an employee of Colonel Qaddafi’s security forces, flees Libya for Saudi Arabia after supporting Islamists seeking to overthrow the brutal leader.

1992-93: The family moves to Britain.

1993: Ismail Abedi, Salman’s older brother, is born in London.

1994: Salman is born in Manchester.

1997: Hashem Abedi, Salman’s younger brother, is born in Britain.

2009-11: Salman attends Burnage Academy for Boys.

February 2011: The armed revolt against Colonel Qaddafi starts.

2011: Ramadan travels to Tunisia to participate in the revolution to overthrow Colonel Qaddafi in Libya. His teenage sons join him there during their school holidays.

Oct. 20, 2011: Colonel Qaddafi is killed in Libya.

2011-13: Salman attends Manchester College. While Salman was studying there, at least two of his associates called an antiterrorism hotline to report their worries that he had been radicalized, according to the BBC.

September 2012: Ramadan posts a photo on Facebook of his son Hashem, then 15, holding a machine gun. The caption reads: “Hashem the lion… training.”

2013: Salman’s friend Raphael Hostey, a recruiter for the Islamic State, leaves for Syria. Mr. Hostey is believed to have been killed in a drone strike there in May last year.

April 2016: Ramadan instructs Salman and Hashem to return to Libya.

May 11, 2016: Salman’s friend Abdal Raouf Abdallah, 23, of Manchester, is convicted in Britain of a terrorism-related charge.

May 12, 2016: Abdul Wahab Hafidah — a friend of Salman and a close friend of his younger brother — is run over and then stabbed to death in Manchester, in what the police called a gang-involved killing.

May 2016: Salman opens a bank account that lies dormant until shortly before the Manchester attack, when it is used to pay for hardware supplies that went into the bomb.

April 16, 2017: Hashem travels from Britain to Libya, according to the Special Deterrence Forces, a Libyan militia group.

Late April/Early May 2017: Salman goes on a trip to Libya, where his parents briefly seize his passport.

May 17: Salman leaves Tripoli to return to Britain.

May 19: He is recorded on a closed-circuit television camera buying the backpack used in the Manchester bombing.

May 22: He detonates a bomb at the Manchester Arena, killing 22 people.

May 23: Ismail, Salman’s older brother, is arrested in South Manchester.

May 23: Hashem is detained by the Special Deterrence Force in Tripoli and held at an airport.

May 24: “I don’t believe it was him,” Salman’s father, Ramadan, tells The New York Times by phone, referring to the identification of his son as the bomber. An hour later, Ramadan is detained by the Special Deterrence Force.

copied and pasted from this source:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/27/...tain-manchester-bomber-family-libya.html?_r=0

Buzzer, alot of our youth who are dragged into all this do get alot of their info online or you telling me that doesn't happen ?, every bit we do ads to the bigger picture

i just don't think censoring websites is the answer.
the manchester bomber was turned by his dad, i think older generations are poisoning the youth.

buzzer said:

i wouldn't put them into normal prison. special measures have to be taken at difficult times.

we are targeted becuase we are too soft, an easy hit..

that has to change..

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agreed, people get injured during war.
there was also a transport policeman who tackled the three of them
he fought until they held him down and stabbed him in the face and leg according to reports.

i bet they dont release his name despite his heroic acts incase of reprisails.
shows who's boss really..

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easy to say aslong as it's not one of your own being shot . The shoot to kill policy
Never worked before and it won't work now . All it does is feed the propaganda machine and help recruit new blood