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I tidied up slightly by deleting an irrelevant post (and its replies) that had nothing to do with the topic.
So, lets try and keep things on topic please !
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Your arguments are not really worth commenting on. You claim to have a personal interest in this type of crime and have stated what your feelings are, thats it.
There is very little for me to come back with other than "you are wrong", I am not going to say that as it isnt fair etc.
The recurrent theme to pedos on this board is that they should be executed as soon as they are discovered, in some cases before it is even proved. my arguments are that more care and attention needs to go to the victim. I also mentioned that people should be identified as a possible sex offender (if at all possible) and prevented from comitting these crimes. Unfortunately and unsurprisingly, this was met with widespread disdain. After all, why try to stop a crime from being commited when the majority of middle England would be happy to lynch these people?
The point I have been labouring is this, why not try to prevent the crime instead of hollering for the death penalty each time it happens?
As to your personal interest - I dont know you or anything about you. So if it happend, then you have my sympathies. If it didnt then you are an evil person for making things up to support your point of view.
at no point have I blamed pedos on everyone else. Get a grip.
As to your personal interest - I dont know you or anything about you. So if it happend, then you have my sympathies. If it didnt then you are an evil person for making things up to support your point of view.
as you say you dont know me, therefore it seems arrogant to cast doubt on my comments. though i can see how doing so, may, let you ignore the justification of my comments.I also mentioned that people should be identified as a possible sex offender (if at all possible) and prevented from comitting these crimes.
The was no insinuation of him being a liar untill you posted it.
Pointless answering this, anyone reading your last several posts will just laugh at you
You need to stop trying to get people going fubar -
I really don't know how your brain is wired up Karym6, by asking for an apology I am not starting anything or getting people going, thats your job, by automatically taking the opposite view to the majority, and looking down you nose at us lesser mortals with your GOOGLE PHD, on this forum time and time again.
unless you want this to descend into an argument?
I dont really understand the point you are trying to make there. Do you disagree that the police etc should not spend more time trying to detect this type of crime and prevent it before it happens?
And when it comes to arrogance, why do my views weigh less than yours?
fortunately, I am not arguing with the majority. The majority also does not think that death and torture are suitable, thats why no laws have been passed allowing it.
If you refer to the majority here, then you will find that its just the same old faces over and over again saying the same tired old things.
Stop adding your own words to my quotes, I have asked before. It is plain you are just after another argument so that you can fill up the bandwagon. It really doesnt surpris me in the slightest.
fortunately, I am not arguing with the majority. The majority also does not think that death and torture are suitable, thats why no laws have been passed allowing it.
If you refer to the majority here, then you will find that its just the same old faces over and over again saying the same tired old things.
Stop adding your own words to my quotes, I have asked before. It is plain you are just after another argument so that you can fill up the bandwagon. It really doesnt surpris me in the slightest.
There are laws in each country, some have the death penalty, does that stop sick idiots committing crimes like these??? NOPE
you have no way of making sure that it will server as a deterrent. Killing one now does not mean that in 20 years time someone else will do it. These people are sick, not smart.
And would it be free to execute someone? No, you would need to pay for it and I have no idea how much execution costs.
Will it give society a cast iron guarantee that they will never hurt another child ?..YIP !
Will it act as a fantastic deterent to other fiddlers to keep thier hands to themselves ?..YIP !
If the death penalty is such a good deterrent, then why doesnt it prevent these crimes from taking place in , say, Saudi?
What castration or killing them???
Doesnt really guarantee anything,
My point was if they are dead, its kind of guarantees that they will not re offend
There is the death penalty in a lot of countries, do these have lower crime rates??? Its not a deterant at all,
Yes I do believe that they do have lower crime rates
the death penalty is still used to punish sex offenders - so as a deterrent, it has failed.
Castration would also prevent them from carrying out these crimes.
the death penalty is still used to punish sex offenders - so as a deterrent, it has failed.
Fubar, its a chemical castration not a physical one... If women commit these crimes and are found guilty then I am sure they can also get the female equivalent. I am going to guess though (and I am sure you will use this as a basis to debunk my post) that women make up a fraction of these criminals.
As to my source? A few months ago there was a news item on the BBC about an adulteress who was thrown in prison after being raped while her rapists got off with a lighter punishment. Whilst it isnt a underage victim, it highlights that if there are hard penalties acting as a deterrent, they dont suceed. Vietnam also has the death penalty, but this doesnt seem to stop its sex offences from taking place..
Go google it if you are that interested.
source for what?
You realise the term deterrent is something that is in place to deter people from doing things? Like the nuclear deterrent forinstance - it prevented people from starting a nuclear war.
Things that are not deterrents are speed cameras, they dont stop people from speeding all they do is catch people doing it. Like the death penalty, it simply becomes a way of exacting punishment. If you want specifics, then go and google it instead of trying to create an argument.
And for the sake of the thread, dont go dragging islam into it. We all know your views on it, and it wouldnt help the sensible discussion that is trying to take place here.
precisley, rotting in prison for 20 years is much more terrifying
You could kill everyone that commits any crime big or small, it doesnt really matter, let them die, however do you honestly believe that will stop anyone else committing the same crime???
Of course it will stop the individual doing it again, however it will not stop others with the same urges from committing it no matter what the consequences are... As I said they will just work harder to destroy the evidence and cover their tracks.
Isnt the death penalty in certain states in the US? That didnt stop any crimes, still lots of mass murderers and perverts etc...
Like said I dont see any solutions posted as an ideal solution, my personal opinions are below:-
1, Better education, for potential victims, e.g at School, better professional advice to identify victims of abuse and education to prevent people becoming victims. Pedos pray on the innocent, the victims often dont know what is happening or how to deal with it... Better education and ways to deal with it, should help cut things like that happening and the abuse carrying on for years like it usually does in these situations... Teaching kids that this is wrong no matter who the person is, often its someone they know respect or look up to and trust etc, so if they know from the start that this is wrong and shouldnt be happening then they are likely to speak out.
2, Punishment should not be so cushy and easy, people committing any crimes when sent to jail they are there for punishment, they should be left to rot not to enjoy and learn new skills, No TV, No Internet, etc, its a punishment not boarding school.
3, Sentence for Sex crimes should be equal to Murder, victims of things like this have to go through their lives living with this, the person committing the crime should have to suffer for as long, so no 2-3 years, full life sentence the same as murder.
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