DVB - PC Cards AU Fix for Yankse/Fernir

this is odd - the keys snitch is giving me are several years old - pulled direct from the mosc image I used- it has cheerfully updated softcam.key and ci.txt with these "new" keys lol

the reason may be that according to it's logs it isnt receiving any keyroll emm's - loads of other emm's but no keyroll ones - this could however be wrong as I aint exactly an expert with logging but thats how it looks to me atm

any advice?
 
A quick howto would be nice... please :)

or just a file >> folder map would be good too.
 
xCW only at the moment, I can't test anything else.

I'm off out in a bit but I should be back later tonight.

Good luck with it
 
okay - seems vplug was nicking all the keyroll emm's lol - turned it off and everything cleared
 
no - vplug doent work with AU - however it does imo give faster and smoother channel changes - but not to be if I want snitch to grab keys
 
Has anyone got snitch to work with ProgDVB? I have tried v4 and v5 but both lock up during starting, I have tried with just snitch in a plugin folder and got the same, I can get it working with dvbdream and it found the keys correctly but I cannot use DVBDream with DVBSBridge, snitch is not recognised by MyTheatre either so that is a no go but well done Nick for finding a solution.
 
My ProgDVB doesn't freeze but snitch doesn't seem to be finding the keys. MyTheatre is my program of choice which is no good anymore so going to try DVBDream.
 
Has anyone got snitch to work with ProgDVB? I have tried v4 and v5 but both lock up during starting, I have tried with just snitch in a plugin folder and got the same, I can get it working with dvbdream and it found the keys correctly but I cannot use DVBDream with DVBSBridge, snitch is not recognised by MyTheatre either so that is a no go but well done Nick for finding a solution.

It will work with MyTheatre, you need to download MDwrapper 1.28 and put it in the MyTheatres plugins folder. Then place yankse and snitch in a folder called MDplugins.

Cheers! :)
 
It will work with MyTheatre, you need to download MDwrapper 1.28 and put it in the MyTheatres plugins folder. Then place yankse and snitch in a folder called MDplugins.

Cheers! :)

Yeah I remembered about that after I posted, I would still like to get my existing setup (Progdvb) working though.
@ Da Mafia what version of progdvb are you using, I use 4.89.6
 
I'm using 5.14.04. Like I say, it doesn't freeze but it doesn't seem to find the codes either. I've used the same files in MyTheatre with MDWrapper and it works fine apart from not shutting down properly.
 
Hi all,

Sorry about the disappearing act yesterday guys, it was a mate’s birthday so I couldn’t really take a rain check… and I was in no state to be offering help when I got back in! lol :Cheers:

Anyway, you seem to have cracked it by yourself, sorry about the philosophical readme, I didn’t have time to do a proper one yesterday, and sorry to over-compensate with this monster post… :Laugh:

Snitch app compatibility:

I thought I’d mentioned this but for dvbcore.dll based apps you need the MDWrapper, experiment with which version works best with your app.

I think DVBViewer still uses Pikachus’ SoftCSA wrapper, again experiment with the many versions. I think they may be integrating Agwal’s MDAPI.ax directshow based wrapper as used for MediaPortal etc so look into that, has anyone in xCW got snitch working in MediaPortal yet?

I’ve always had a soft-spot for ProgDVB (I like the no-nonsense russian design ethic) but I’m afraid all the new engine based versions are flaky as hell, especially with older plugins. Use the oldest version you can get away with, I’ve found 4.38 to be rock solid but it doesn’t support BDA so you will need to go to 4.48 or 4.56, always put plugins in the root dir btw! Also disable all modules expect epg.

If needs be you can always use MyTheatre to get the keys and copy the softcam.key file to you preferred app, talking of keys if you want to test AU make sure you clean up old Yankse files like ci.txt and empty the key file each time. I have tested Vplug, S2Emu, EmuNation, CAPI, TrEmu and Gbox and they all decode ok with a good key file. Personally I’m sticking with Yankse, but Vplugs FFdeCSA support is useful for BBC HD if you have a low-end CPU or you graphics card doesn’t support DXVA. If you can’t get Snitch to work in your app it might be possible to use a cardserver client plugin like WinCSC with SnitchServer but to get AU working we need to look into the customised radegast protocol they are using.

Snith eep/rom files:

The pack I uploaded yesterday was AUing on xCW AS IS, don’t need to move or rename anything, if you want to test the other eeprom just unrar it over the other one, but in my tests that one returns old keys for about 2 mins before updated correctly. Disable snitch as soon as you have the keys to save cpu, and stop you app freezing when you try an close it.

If you are xCW and have AU working with the roms I found please let me know. If you are NTLpure or TW and have tried my fix you will see why I almost gave up in Snitch when I was testing it last week! You are probably just getting random crashes at startup right? This is because the Snitch fix is totally dependant on having the correct eeprom for you area. If anyone has it working with any other eeproms apart from the ones I included I would be very interested to know what files you are using. As far as I can tell epproms from a rom10 (and possible rom11 in later versions) (M)OSC cards are the only files that would work, eeproms from any other card flatform seem to be formatted very differently with a lot of additional data, but maybe they can be converted some how???

I have several mosc eeproms that I think should AU but don’t and I can’t work out why, maybe they aren’t matched to the rom10 binary used for the dreambox fix? You could also try using RomStudio, NagraEdit etc to edit the included eeproms with you local provider ID, RAS keys etc, I would be interested to know if this is possible? The toxic editor is also supposed to work so check that out.

It seems the creator of Snitch has taken the MAME approach, he seems to be more of a “purist” in terms of hardware level emulation than Fenrir’s author Vlinders was. It seems to act more like a basic CAM emulator when supplying the EMMs, then leaves the ST7 CPU / Map emulators to perform “card” operations with the eep/roms. Hopefully that means we can use blockers and other tweaks used in real MOSCs ? but it might also make us vulnerable to any hits designed to knock out the MOSCs?

From the Snitch readme:
“As Snitch runs, the eeprom.bin file IS UPDATED as a real card EEPROM would”
I found this out the hard way, one thing that really did my head in when I was testing it was that the eep file’s modified date stamp is updated as it is used, I was using the modified dates to identify the files and I ended up with a folder full of ~20 files all called eeprom.bin and all with the same date and time – this causes a lot of mix ups!


... a small favour:

There are some mosc downloads I’d like to have a look at in the download section but when I tried to download them I get file not found errors or corrupt downloads? Now I’m being told I have exceeded my download limit!?! Can someone with working access grab them PM them to me, use try firefox as IE corrupts the downloads, sorry if its not allowed???

http://www.digitalworldz.co.uk/forums/index.php?resources/197/

http://www.digitalworldz.co.uk/forums/index.php?resources/1210/

http://www.digitalworldz.co.uk/forums/index.php?resources/461/

Also, I don’t know if there any members that "other digital world” forum, who’s name shall not be spoken of lol, but they also have a mosc section of sorts. I gave up on the place years ago (after they deleted the Freeview section with all my posts) I now have 0 posts and can’t access the downloads.

If someone can take a look and see if there are any mosc eeps we can use to get our friends in TW and NTLpure areas up and running with snitch that would be great

hxxp://world-of-digital.com/forums/f74/

Well done all those who worked it out for themself, I hope that lot is some help to the rest of you...

Cheers,
Nick

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if u pm me ur email addy i'll send u the imgs i got , i use a few mosc cards therefore have some of these files.

cheers
 
Nick [D]vB;1262644 said:
always put plugins in the root dir btw! Also disable all modules expect epg.

Cheers mate, I just tried that and it doesn't lockup anymore but i will have to wait until later to see if it updates (Primetime telly and the missus y'know!!)
 
It will work with MyTheatre, you need to download MDwrapper 1.28 and put it in the MyTheatres plugins folder. Then place yankse and snitch in a folder called MDplugins.

Cheers! :)



I have Mytheatre but cant get snitch to find keys. Could someone post the necessary files.
Not on this site though I cant download here as I only registered a few days ago
Thanks
Charlie :Clap:
 
Well I cant get snitch to update in ProgDVB, I can get it so it doesn't lock up but then no emms are found, provider ID and key feilds remain blank no matter where the softcam key is put (root folder or plugins) so I am afraid it is back to the drawing board for me, If the only thing that is finding the correct key is over 2 years old then maybe I need to find another AU plugin about the same age? Vplug maybe, anyone have any ideas
 
Well I cant get snitch to update in ProgDVB, I can get it so it doesn't lock up but then no emms are found, provider ID and key feilds remain blank no matter where the softcam key is put (root folder or plugins) so I am afraid it is back to the drawing board for me, If the only thing that is finding the correct key is over 2 years old then maybe I need to find another AU plugin about the same age? Vplug maybe, anyone have any ideas

I got it to update OK in ProgDVB 4.56.
 
Well I cant get snitch to update in ProgDVB, I can get it so it doesn't lock up but then no emms are found, provider ID and key feilds remain blank no matter where the softcam key is put (root folder or plugins) so I am afraid it is back to the drawing board for me, If the only thing that is finding the correct key is over 2 years old then maybe I need to find another AU plugin about the same age? Vplug maybe, anyone have any ideas

Vplug is a non starter for AU - it will not AU for Nagra1 :(

T
 
Da Mafia,
In Snitch Monitor mode, what is in the Filter box? and what is your provider ID?

my provider ID is 5401 and i think in the filter box was 6AF6 <---- similar but not exact as its from memory, will correct later if needed.
 
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