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Viewing figures are massive too for BBC4 :Laugh:
MA_2K5 said:do-dee-do. anyways, moving swiftly on from this subject.
i belive the original thread was: wales abc1??? not The Old Men Debating Club
That's the thing with age MA - all that experience enables the mind to stretch far and wide and not be limited by trivial considerations like thread titles.
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But thats one of the reasons we have a TV Licence isn't it to pay for the small viewing figures of a minorityhamba said:Is that irony SOTL?
I'm all for minority channels why should everything have to appeal to everyone?
Give us choice not ratings!!
maybe when i'm old & grey, i'll be able to pass on my knowledge like you do. thanx hamba. (is there a smiley for sarcasm?)
also, SOTL, i don't like havin 2 pay TV license. damn those TV license people, if i had it my way, (which i will soon, mwahhahahahahaha :Chainsaw: , [that's meant 2 be an evil laugh by the way]), people would only have 2 pay their tv license fees if they watched BBC channels, otherwise they shouldn't have to.
(is there a smiley for sarcasm?)also, SOTL, i don't like havin 2 pay TV license. damn those TV license people, if i had it my way, (which i will soon, mwahhahahahahaha :Chainsaw: , [that's meant 2 be an evil laugh by the way]), people would only have 2 pay their tv license fees if they watched BBC channels, otherwise they shouldn't have to.
Shipoftheline said:But thats one of the reasons we have a TV Licence isn't it to pay for the small viewing figures of a minority
I'm happy to pay the TV license for the choice and range of output from the BBC - not to mention providing the training and development for artists and craftspeople which feeds back into the industry.
Also I think it is good to maintain a public broadcasting corporation whose prime objective is not about making money.
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hamba said:
I agree thats just it some people are happy with it because adverts wouldn't pay for something like BBC4 which is why everyone has too for the minority
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MA_2K5 said:
Topup wont be we us forever. Channel 5 want the space back so when the agreement comes to an end bye bye topup
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Donno but those channels belong to CH5 and they seem to be regretting letting them out to TOPUP. They underestimated how popular FREEview would be even bidding (millions) for the last free channel spot because TOPUP has their's for a couple more years.MA_2K5 said:
BBC could gain another slot by using the new compression the other companies used. They arn't allowed to broadcast another channel but the money could go back into the BBC and we'd end up with another channel
hamba said:
aint they making MILLIONS and the people at the top getting obscene wage packets
if its not about making money they should be an OPTIONAL fee, instead of demanding money backed up by the threat of menace from every household in the country
just my little bit
digidude said:aint they making MILLIONS and the people at the top getting obscene wage packets
if its not about making money they should be an OPTIONAL fee, instead of demanding money backed up by the threat of menace from every household in the country
just my little bit
I see what you are saying - problem is all the people at the top get obscene wage packets: thats a problem of our whole society.
As for the fee, well lets face it, it's a tax. I would personally prefer it to be an income tax - based on ability to pay - but there's another society wide problem: indirect taxes - hits those who can least afford them.
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hamba said:
They don't seem to be doing a very good job though do they. Thats the diffence with a private company and a public company
£3 billion a year and for what Skyone has a budget of £60 million, BBC1 £900 million feck
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Can't argue with you about that because I only have your say on those figures - not that I necessarily doubt you - but I don't have enough knowledge of the financial pros and cons. I do know that the BBC was cut to pieces in the mid nineties by business folks from the private sector - in order to make them more efficient. Brought about the same sort of results as Maggies work on the hospitals.
Not everything can be measured in terms of money.
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hamba said:
You dont have necessarily doubt me its there for everyone to see although I notice they have changed it now to make it look better and hide the waste. This is what the muggins pay for (TV Licence my arse)
hxxp://www.bbc.co.uk/info/licencefee
Still seems like pretty good value to me although, as I said earlier, I would prefer it to be funded from income tax.
I'm afraid I am not very keen on private ownership of the media - too much power in too few hands.
I'm afraid I am not very keen on private ownership of the media - too much power in too few hands.
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hamba said:
I'm sure you think its fair and I can see why you think it would be better with it in the income tax too. If I had Sky paid for by everyone else I'd be happy. I don't watch or like the BBC though but still I'm expected to pay for the people who like watching/listening to it including those around the world who get it for FREE thanks to us!
I can also jiggle numbers about and make them look better. Those don't give out as much info as last years either
In the 21st century you shouldn't be forced to have a licence to own a bloody tv set lol
