NHS is a let down to all that have paid their stamp
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Shipoftheline
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NHS is a big feck off black hole that recently had billions of our money ploughed into it without any thought of costs savings or efficiency's. I also think you should have to prove who you are so anyone from outside the UK has to pay wny work carried out while here.
NHS should be run like a profitable company so they can get the most with the money which is put into it. Any savings then can be put back into it. It seems too much like common sense to me though so will never happen
NHS should be run like a profitable company so they can get the most with the money which is put into it. Any savings then can be put back into it. It seems too much like common sense to me though so will never happen
TheDogsNutts
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mrsb said:
i could not agree with you more dear...........
I think mrsb is talking from 1st hand experience rather than media reports.
However as I work in an NHS hospital (non-clinical side), I can see it from both sides.
On the one hand you have people who have to wait months for an appointment. On the other you have the serial did not attendees (DNAs) who are wasting the time of the doctor/nurse/clinician and use an appointment slot that someone else could have had.
However as I work in an NHS hospital (non-clinical side), I can see it from both sides.
On the one hand you have people who have to wait months for an appointment. On the other you have the serial did not attendees (DNAs) who are wasting the time of the doctor/nurse/clinician and use an appointment slot that someone else could have had.
Hmm...Have to say I have pretty good experiences with the NHS so far.
As regaurds paying your 'stamp', this is national insurance I assume you mean, this is not paying for the NHS, funding for that comes from general taxation. The NI stamp is for benefits etc during your working life and your state pension.
No, the NHS is not perfect, but they do a pretty dam good job, if we where to go down the root of private health care then I'm afraid that doesn't bare thinking about..have you seen the state of 'health services' in the US? If you haven't got insurance (and alot of people can't afford it) then you may well not get any treatment, even if your dying! Thats scary!!
What does bug me about our NHS is all these senior managers on mega salaries..why?? Does every hospital need a cheif exec? A chief finacial officer, clinical director etc etc..The list goes on,I think thats wasteful, the good old too many cheifs & not enough indians senareo.
My personal view is, we should contiue to fund the NHS in it's present form, from taxation, as a percentage of GDP and then add extra funds, for special services etc from a revised lottery. The lottery should be a non-profit set-up (as Branson wanted to do), with all surplus and unclaimed monies going to the NHS, instead of lining the pockets of the Camalot Barons..which incidentaly has a major shareholder from over the pond with a very dodgy past..did you know...
I also agree with Ship's comment, we should not be treating people from abroad for free...If we travel in Europe we need an e11 from don't we? I recently spent a year in Belgium and had to arrange for an e128 (aswell as other stuff) which basically means if I fell ill in Belgium the UK government would pay them back and also, if I claimed any benefits in Belgium that I had paid my NI contributions and that would be used to re-imburse the Belgian government. So why aren't we enforcing these europe wide rules???? As for non-eu people then life saving treatment should be free and thats it, unless they can pay for it or have insurance.
There endeth todays rant....lol
As regaurds paying your 'stamp', this is national insurance I assume you mean, this is not paying for the NHS, funding for that comes from general taxation. The NI stamp is for benefits etc during your working life and your state pension.
No, the NHS is not perfect, but they do a pretty dam good job, if we where to go down the root of private health care then I'm afraid that doesn't bare thinking about..have you seen the state of 'health services' in the US? If you haven't got insurance (and alot of people can't afford it) then you may well not get any treatment, even if your dying! Thats scary!!
What does bug me about our NHS is all these senior managers on mega salaries..why?? Does every hospital need a cheif exec? A chief finacial officer, clinical director etc etc..The list goes on,I think thats wasteful, the good old too many cheifs & not enough indians senareo.
My personal view is, we should contiue to fund the NHS in it's present form, from taxation, as a percentage of GDP and then add extra funds, for special services etc from a revised lottery. The lottery should be a non-profit set-up (as Branson wanted to do), with all surplus and unclaimed monies going to the NHS, instead of lining the pockets of the Camalot Barons..which incidentaly has a major shareholder from over the pond with a very dodgy past..did you know...
I also agree with Ship's comment, we should not be treating people from abroad for free...If we travel in Europe we need an e11 from don't we? I recently spent a year in Belgium and had to arrange for an e128 (aswell as other stuff) which basically means if I fell ill in Belgium the UK government would pay them back and also, if I claimed any benefits in Belgium that I had paid my NI contributions and that would be used to re-imburse the Belgian government. So why aren't we enforcing these europe wide rules???? As for non-eu people then life saving treatment should be free and thats it, unless they can pay for it or have insurance.
There endeth todays rant....lol
Shipoftheline
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narabdela said:
Part of it pays towards the NHS thats why we had the increase the other year which pumped more billions into it
listen people i was in florida and my girl got croup and was quite ill 
the nurse call out charge was 300 dollars everytime she touched my girl i got charged another 10 dollars (for example taking tempreture) she then told me she needs to come back ina few days time to evaluate her 190 dollars... then there was medicene 90 dollars for everything (however the 4 bottles of stuff done the trick she was better in no time at all
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total = alot lol, and yes we had insurance
i know the NHS has alot of work needed to better the service, but i was quite surprised after my holiday how much we take some things for granted!
Regards
Mickie D
the nurse call out charge was 300 dollars everytime she touched my girl i got charged another 10 dollars (for example taking tempreture) she then told me she needs to come back ina few days time to evaluate her 190 dollars... then there was medicene 90 dollars for everything (however the 4 bottles of stuff done the trick she was better in no time at all
)total = alot lol, and yes we had insurance
i know the NHS has alot of work needed to better the service, but i was quite surprised after my holiday how much we take some things for granted!
Regards
Mickie D
i have been very fortunate in my life 46 years young ive been in hospital twice once to have my tonsils out age 10 (arranged)
and a grumbling appendix age 22 (emergency)
but others i know friends and family that have used nhs in the last 2 or 3 years have all had positive experiances. this is around the country berkshire, leicestershire, cental london and nottinghamshire.
unfortunaltly there are bad stories around and it is only those the press and media pick up on, as there is realy no story when it all goes ok.
and a grumbling appendix age 22 (emergency)
but others i know friends and family that have used nhs in the last 2 or 3 years have all had positive experiances. this is around the country berkshire, leicestershire, cental london and nottinghamshire.
unfortunaltly there are bad stories around and it is only those the press and media pick up on, as there is realy no story when it all goes ok.
It may not be the best, it may waste money, not every one is happy with the treatment or lack of it at times.
if you think it is bad now see what it would be like if it went private.
most people would not get a look in
it is very sad when the system lets people down, sorry to hear your having trouble with your Dr.
But i think in most cases doctors do a good job
and most people get the treatment they need
But if it became pay and we treat you or have you got insurance then we will have many more sick people not getting treatment at all
and what would you be saying if you was in that boat did not have insurance and you or your child became ill, or was told you can have treatment if you can pay the 600 needed.
sorry I think the NHS does a good job and should stay the way it is
treat every one that needs it no matter what
but i do think if you come from abroad then that country should be billed for that persons treatment and that it must be agreed by all countrys or you cant fly or enter that country
just my views mind you
if you think it is bad now see what it would be like if it went private.
most people would not get a look in
it is very sad when the system lets people down, sorry to hear your having trouble with your Dr.
But i think in most cases doctors do a good job
and most people get the treatment they need
But if it became pay and we treat you or have you got insurance then we will have many more sick people not getting treatment at all
and what would you be saying if you was in that boat did not have insurance and you or your child became ill, or was told you can have treatment if you can pay the 600 needed.
sorry I think the NHS does a good job and should stay the way it is
treat every one that needs it no matter what
but i do think if you come from abroad then that country should be billed for that persons treatment and that it must be agreed by all countrys or you cant fly or enter that country
just my views mind you
The trouble with the nhs at the moment is that all these doctors get paid to go to university i know when you are at you uni they dont get alot of money but they all get subsidised by the government by loans and whatever. but when they have qualified. I know that i could wait months for an appointment to see a specialist, but if i went private i could probably see that same specialist in a few days time, but at the end of the day that specialist has been paid by the government to do his training but he can earn more money by going private. so what they do is work for a private firm probably two days a week, but our tax money has paid for them for their training, and then we have to pay extra again:SHYTE
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