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Fury over loan company charging interest rate of 2,639,538.9%

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ANTI-POVERTY campaigners hit out at greedy lenders last night after it emerged they were charging interest rates of up to 2.6MILLION per cent.

Early Payday Loan set the sky-high rate on a cash advance of just £320.

Government minister Angela Smith said she was "horrified" to learn of the extortionate charge when it was revealed in the House of Commons.

She told MPs: "We all share concerns about this because it is often those on the lowest incomes who end up paying the highest prices because of the high cost of borrowing."

Last night, Labour MP Jim Devine, who is campaigning for interests rates on loans to be capped, said it was further proof of how lenders can take advantage of people who are struggling for cash.

He added: "I'm absolutely appalled that this company are charging such exorbitant rates of interest and it reinforces the need for a limit to be imposed.

"With Christmas just around the corner, increasing numbers of hardworking families on low incomes will be tempted to take out short-term loans to buy presents for their kids. This shows how wary they should be before they sign up."

The Livingston MP, who plans to take up the matter with Business Secretary Peter Mandelson, said those on low incomes should instead join their local credit union, who can offer loans on much cheaper terms.

On their website, Early Payday Loan say arranging a loan with them "takes just a few minutes".

They add: "Once you have filled out our short application form, your payday loan could be in your account in a matter of hours.

"We pride our selves on providing our customers with fast cash loans into their account with minimal hassle when they need it most!"

A copy of the credit agreement in question has been seen by the Daily Record.

It says: "The APR in respect of this service is 2,639,538.9%."

Last night, the company denied the interest rate was actually as high as that and said the figures quoted in the loan agreement "could possibly be the result of a technical error".

According to the credit agreement, the interest rate on the £320 loan was 25 per cent as long as the borrower repaid a total of £400 within a month.

The higher interest charge would kick in if the loan was not repaid in full and on time.

But Peter Kelly, director of Glasgow-based Poverty Alliance, said it showed the dangers faced by Scots searching for easy credit.

He added: "This is obviously a very extreme example but it shows how careful borrowers need to be before they take out an emergency loan."

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Shocking that they can prey on the low paid like this.

thebigman
 
These people are fookin vultures praying on the weak and needy the sooner laws and litigation is brought in to protect the lender the better, the people they lend to in general are people on their last legs nowhere else to turn, last chance saloon, who dont know numbers and thats what they love, scum.
 
These companies are only taking advantage of a financial system that is legal in practice. If the BoE didn't artificially lower interest rates to 0.5% and allow banks to offer this as a savings rate whilst charging 5+% for borrowing we would have any ambiguity in our interest rate system.

Don't blame the companies that take advantage of this. You could blame the regulatory system for allowing this to happen but as no laws have been broken, finger pointing should be aimed squarely at the chancellor and the BoE chief for putting in place the infrastructure for such a system.
 
Don't blame the companies that take advantage of this. You could blame the regulatory system for allowing this to happen but as no laws have been broken.

That argument is morally bankrupt. You can excuse something that is morally wrong, just because it's not illegal?

I seem to have heard that sort of reasoning before here on DW. :grayno:
 
Don't blame the companies that take advantage of this. You could blame the regulatory system for allowing this to happen but as no laws have been broken, finger pointing should be aimed squarely at the chancellor and the BoE chief for putting in place the infrastructure for such a system.

your correct Munkey,it is legal. I had actually thought there was a maximum apr that a company could legaly charge. Just because it's legal though doesn't make it right, there are more and more of these companies sprining up in high streets across the country as the recession bites. The law does need reviewing as far as I can see they are no better loan sharks.

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Just because it's legal though doesn't make it right.

Correct. Right and wrong is not determined by the law. It's down to something much more old-fashoned. Human values.

So yes, I will blame the loan companies Munkey, for ignoring those values and cynically taking advantage of those least able to afford it.
 
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I blame the people using them sort of companies if people stopped using them to borrow money then these companies (loan sharks) wouldn't exist .say if you borrowed £100 from these type of companies you know you are going to pay back about £170 ,i know people fall on hard times but none is forcing them to take out these type of loans with high interest
 
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i think this fits neatly into the legal term of "extortionate interest" tbvh - no way in hell this would be inforced through a court if defaulted imo.. It is about time an actual definition of extortionate was made available to these sharks, clearly these terms would only attract those incapable of paying or someone completely ignorant of financial apr'ism < hey made that up lmao..:)
 
if they were not so greedy and impatient and rather saved up instead of using credit to buy something then they wouldnt be in this position

end of the day it is your fault for getting in to debt, not the banks or credit card companies, your a grown up so you should know the consequences, your not a teenager anymore asking your parents to bail you out

People can get into debt for all sorts of unforseen reasons. Could be for example illness, redundancy or even a sudden death. The point of the thread is should high street companies be able to charge 2 million percent + for a short term loan?

thebigman
 
your correct Munkey,it is legal. I had actually thought there was a maximum apr that a company could legaly charge. Just because it's legal though doesn't make it right, there are more and more of these companies sprining up in high streets across the country as the recession bites. The law does need reviewing as far as I can see they are no better loan sharks.

thebigman

It's a system whereby exploitation is OK just as long as it is within the legal framework. We put custodians in place to safeguard our interests as not everyone is capable of reading the fine print or understanding the ramifications of signing up to such an agreement. Laws are there to protect the best interests of the public at large and current legislation does not do so. The rule makers are corrupt and until we begin to identify who is actually to blame for this mess, no worthwhile change will happen. Amend legislation and these loan sharks disappear, moan at the loan sharks and nothing will happen as they are not breaking the law.


I blame the people using them sort of companies if people stopped using them to borrow money then these companies (loan sharks) wouldn't exist .say if you borrowed £100 from these type of companies you know you are going to pay back about £170 ,i know people fall on hard times but none is forcing them to take out these type of loans with high interest

I'm afraid that some people will be in a situation where they desperately need money and these legal sharks are the only means by which they can see a temporary escape. Personally I have sympathy for people who end up using these loan sharks, they really must be experiencing hard times and I doubt they would take out such a loan to buy a few Christmas presents.
 
If any members here have one of these loans PM me and I will sort it out, under The Consumer credit act and EU law this debt can very easily be wiped out.
 
LOL @ Emerald..

People need to start reading their contracts before signing.. 2.6 million, im in the wrong job..
 
LOL @ Emerald..

People need to start reading their contracts before signing.. 2.6 million, im in the wrong job..


Most of the agreements are crap and fall foul of the cca
They threatened court, but that's all it is a threat, as they are scared of trying to explain the interest rate.
 
That argument is morally bankrupt. You can excuse something that is morally wrong, just because it's not illegal?

I seem to have heard that sort of reasoning before here on DW. :grayno:

Couldn't agree with you more, as usual Munkey would rather concentrate on the legalities of this story rather then the moral issues, it seems to be rife in the new wealth is best societies we now live in.

It must be difficult for young people and those with small incomes trying to get on in this country when your high street banks will not lend and the sharks are lurking waiting to take advantage and screw you with those extortionate interest rates.

Whats the old saying, the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer, it's never be more prevalent than it is now.

Revolution is what's needed, and a redistribution of the wealth, that'll teach ye Munkey. :proud:
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Couldn't agree with you more, as usual Munkey would rather concentrate on the legalities of this story rather then the moral issues, it seems to be rife in the new wealth is best societies we now live in.

It must be difficult for young people and those with small incomes trying to get on in this country when your high street banks will not lend and the sharks are lurking waiting to take advantage and screw you with those extortionate interest rates.

Whats the old saying, the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer, it's never be more prevalent than it is now.

Revolution is what's needed, and a redistribution of the wealth, that'll teach ye Munkey. :proud:
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It's that law that these companies must follow and not what joe public thinks is acceptable to charge. If the law say's that it is OK to charge extortionate interest rates then they will do so. Laws are based on morality amongst other things. The law in this case needs changing for this nonsense to stop. Your logic of asking the CC companies to do the morally right thing is rather silly TBH, like fat cat profits ever cared for who they shat on.

If you don't change the law nothing will change, it's all rather simple stuff mate. Unfortunately I don't live in your ideal world and neither do the people taking out these loans.

Sorry Hibby, but I really don't see what redistribution of wealth has to do with extortionate interest rates.
 
Sorry Hibby, but I really don't see what redistribution of wealth has to do with extortionate interest rates.[/quote]

It has feck all to do with it, just want a revolution and the chance to make the super rich morally corrupt barstewards held accountable for the state of the country, simples
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Sorry Hibby, but I really don't see what redistribution of wealth has to do with extortionate interest rates.

It has feck all to do with it, just want a revolution and the chance to make the super rich morally corrupt barstewards held accountable for the state of the country, simples
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I get it, really you're called HippyDave :banana:
 
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