Disabled are socially excluded says Scope survey

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Nine out of 10 people in Britain have never had a disabled person in their house for a social occasion, claims a survey from a disability charity.

Scope says the survey shows that disabled people are socially excluded.

While the survey found widespread backing for equal opportunities, in practice few people have any personal dealings with people with disabilities.

The charity's chief executive, Richard Hawkes, says disabled people are "invisible in day-to-day life".

The Scope survey, based on a sample of more than 2,000 adults across Britain, suggests public support for the rights of disabled people to be part of mainstream society is not matched by everyday experience.

It suggests people with physical and mental disabilities remain excluded from many people's social or work life.


According to the Scope survey, almost two in five people do not know anyone outside of their own family who is disabled.

And only a fifth of people in the survey have ever worked with a disabled person.

According to Scope, about one in 10 of the non-pensioner population is disabled.

The survey did not ask people why they had not invited disabled people to their social events, but a spokeswoman for the charity suggested that reasons could include worries about physical access and also an "embarrassment factor".

"It's not that people are nasty, but they might not know what to say. The less familiar they are with disabled people, the more the embarrassment. The unwillingness to offend can cause the exclusion," she said.

Mr Hawkes described the survey's findings as "shocking evidence" of the extent to which disabled people are pushed to the "fringes of society".

He warned that any government spending cuts could isolate disabled people even further.

"The government needs to carry out a full impact assessment before making any cuts to ensure they understand the full consequences of reductions in critical support such as Disability Living Allowance and Incapacity Benefit. These form a vital lifeline for many disabled people and their families."


BBC News - Disabled are socially excluded says Scope survey
 

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where do these so called do gooders get thier info? i love how they spin stats and figures to make everyone racist bigoted or anti whatever they want them to be! make everyone feel bad and get them to invite every disabled person in the town in to your home for a party, even tho u dont know them! let them in and tell them to eat all your food and drink all your drink so u are not part of a statitstic! bollox! and wank to that!
 

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i think there right..BUT...

i dont know any disabled people to invite to a social occasion, should i go out my way to find one then ??
 

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it doesnt bother me if someone is disabled, ive socilised with disabled people when i worked in a call centre. i never felt the need to invite one home! or invite anyone else home from work either, however if i did it wouldnt have mattered if they were disabled or not they would have been welcome! ffs ! i can see a rant room move for this thread. sorry eva, this one is going to be nasty before the day is out.
 

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Disabled dude is the new token black guy. I heard a rumour that next season midgits will make a come-back.
 

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i didn't actually comment on it myself stef, i found it interesting so i posted it that's all.

There are a couple of factors here as i see it. One is people tend to socialise with people that they know from work or various activities, sport etc, other mothers they meet down at the school, that kind of thing. If they don't work with or meet people with disabilities in their everyday life, how are they meant to socialise with them, they are hardly meant to go out deliberately looking for a disabled person to 'adopt' as such, that would be a bit patronising?

Two and i'm sorry if this offends anyone, some people can get embarrassed if they are not used to dealing with people with disabilities, they are not sure how to react, whether to treat them the same as everyone else or to try to help them with stuff, so they tend to look the other way.
 

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Just because somebody is disabled it does not mean you have to treat them any different.If you have disabled friends so be it. They are not lepars.On the other hand you dont invite every Tom,Dick or Harry in your house just to gain statistics.
 

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sorry eva, i didnt mean that u were posting this as a personal oppinion. i was merely stating that the people who make this shit up need to get some sort of life. im not bigoted towards disabled people, infact if u look what the government are trying to do is see the ability. so we may not be looking hard enough at people who come in to our lives and homes. its all the governments fault.
 

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I suspect these figures are a pre-emtive strike to try and fend off goverment speding cuts. On First reading this I thought I'm one of those who have never socialised with any disabled people. Then I realised my sister is classed as disabled and my best m8 is blind with one leg. I just don't think of them as any less able. Some times these surveys have the opposite effect of what they intended.

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thats what im talking about. the government made us see the ability and not the disability. now that we cant see when someone is disabled we are being told we are in some way a bigot against disabled people. ive never descriminated against a disabled person. yet here i am being made to feel guilty and think wether or not ive had a disabled person socialise with me.
 

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This is also down to what you have in common with people, disabled or not.
I also have friends that are classed as disabled but I don't look at them or think of them that way at all.
 

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I suspect these figures are a pre-emtive strike to try and fend off goverment speding cuts. On First reading this I thought I'm one of those who have never socialised with any disabled people. Then I realised my sister is classed as disabled and my best m8 is blind with one leg. I just don't think of them as any less able. Some times these surveys have the opposite effect of what they intended.

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Good for you mate thats right disabled people like to be treated like a normal person it was not that persons choice to be disabled.what they dont need is someone drawing more attention to them by using these surveys as a scapegoat to make the government look good.
 

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Plus any one of us could be an able bodied person one day and have an accident or illness strike and be disabled the next. Nobody knows what's around the corner.

I would have a number of relatives with disabilities, and have also worked and socialised with people that would be classed as disabled, once you get to know someone it doesn't make any difference, but i do agree there can be an initial awkwardness, purely because of embarrassment and not knowing how people want you to behave, to be honest.
 

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This is the problem with this country, if you have a disability or any form of disfigurement then you are associated to being an outcast who people seem to know how to stare at and pisstake about, but don't know how to talk to or treat like normal human beings.

I used to volunteer as a driver from the age of 18 for a mentally handicapped youth club, these kids were the most polite, loving and friendly people you would ever meet.

I have a disabled daughter so know first hand how hard it is to be accepted by certain people, but it only takes one slip or incident and any one of us could be in the same position and how would you feel then if your friends the treated you like an outcast.
 

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I see disabled people most days in my line of work and never think of them as any different to me and i never feel akward around them.
I see some sad sites and do sometimes reflect on how lucky i am to have good health.
In my expeirence these people dont want simpathy or pitty they just want to have an even chance at things we do.
The DDA act has went a long way to facilitating this but things have a long way to go.
 

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does having a wee willy make you disabled? if so can anyone invite me to your social dooo i will be your bestest friend
 

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more bullsh!t from some do gooding govt dept that will only create bad feelings

when i was a little kid, i used to go to work with my nan, who worked in a school for disabled kids, and play like normal kids played. as i grew up, my mum got a job in the same school teaching sign language. as i got older and started work, i found myself working in hospitals, sheltered complexes, flats to re-intorduce people to the community and places like that. even now, people i speak to, drink with, do work for, etc, thinking about it i know spwople who are stone deaf, people who have physical impairments, people confined to wheelchairs, people who some weeks cant even leave the house.

do i see any of them as 'disabled'?

no

they are the people i know, thats how they are, its part of what makes them, 'them'

the main people with problems against disabled people fall into 3 groups

government toss pots who dont know any disabled people who come up with crap like this.
ignorant toss pots who fail to realise that a disabled person is a human being with feelings as well, even if sometimes they cannot express those feelings properly.

and the worst type (IMO)

disabled people themselfs who scream that they should have everything on a plate due to their disablilty, but they dont want to be treated any different from anyone else.

of all of the less able than myself people i know, none of them fall into that last group, the majority of those in that last group are also the ones milking whatever they can get in the form of benefits etc

a disability is not about what you cant do, its about what you CAN do
 

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does having a wee willy make you disabled? if so can anyone invite me to your social dooo i will be your bestest friend

Don't think so being a little prick don't count, it is self inflicted. Can't you be serious about this post, you are a perfect example of the mentality of today's
way of thinking.
There are soldiers out there fighting for queen and country who are ending up disabled and like i said, "it only take one slip, accident or moment of stupidity and anyone of us could end up with a disability.

Sorry but you have struck a raw nerve here, this disabled are one group of people I have the utmost respect for especially those who have had the misfortune to be born with it.
 

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Don't think so being a little prick don't count, it is self inflicted. Can't you be serious about this post, you are a perfect example of the mentality of today's
way of thinking.
There are soldiers out there fighting for queen and country who are ending up disabled and like i said, "it only take one slip, accident or moment of stupidity and anyone of us could end up with a disability.

Sorry but you have struck a raw nerve here, this disabled are one group of people I have the utmost respect for especially those who have had the misfortune to be born with it.

Alright Stevie lad, no need for that. He was only cracking a joke that people whom don't have a disabilitating humour disorder might smile at, much like my post was meant. I fail to see how he was being fashicious toward disabilities there mate.

It's reponses like that which give rise to this idiotic governmental report. I think the best form of integration is to not make people with disabilities feel special, or like victims who need sheilding from inocent jokes; that's when groups and segregations are formed.

For the record, I'm sure there are many forms of birth debilitating penile disorders which make their barers every much as entitled to physical & mental support from the NHS or whoever, considering, as it is, the 5th limb...;)
 

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Alright Stevie lad, no need for that. He was only cracking a joke that people whom don't have a disabilitating humour disorder might smile at, much like my post was meant. I fail to see how he was being fashicious toward disabilities there mate.

It's reponses like that which give rise to this idiotic governmental report. I think the best form of integration is to not make people with disabilities feel special, or like victims who need sheilding from inocent jokes; that's when groups and segregations are formed.

For the record, I'm sure there are many forms of birth debilitating penile disorders which make their barers every much as entitled to physical & mental support from the NHS or whoever, considering, as it is, the 5th limb...;)

what nonsense that is what the hell has having a small willy got to do with a disability. Its answers like this that make your blood boil. I just hope something like having your legs blown off ever happens to you or P33 RRV.
 
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