ok people so what i know about all this you could just about get on the back of a stamp,what i would like to know is this channel going down the pan thing and all this auto updating thing just effecting the dbox ??? If i go out and get a dreambox 750 or whatever am i still going to have this problem. so far i have just about managed to keep my box up and running with a lot of help from all you guys but i must admit iam starting to get just a little pissed off with it all now is there a fix round the corner will a diffrent box sort this ??? give me a shout lads and lasses all comments greatfully received.