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lazybones

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hi all again, i have a little headache right now and would appriciate a little help if anyone can point me in the right direction, im messing around with an old ct21xx and have got myself the famous elvis and hexgen3 a couple 12509 pics well what next i have 2 tuts one telling me to use the below software and tools
1x security screwdriver set or home made opening tool maplins code N53AW
1x soldering iron + solider (40% tin if you can get)
1x bread board or leave floating covered with insulation tape
1x push to break switch (if you want to hold channel map) maplins code FH60Q-ND92A
1x 12c509 pic chip or 12c509a (12c509 is best but maplins always out lol) MAPLINS CODE NR9OX-VS69A
4-6x lengths of wire (I used white, yellow, red, black, green for switch) 2 extra for switch
1x hot glue gun if you like
1x 25 pin LPT port connector maplins code YQ48C
2x croc clips maplins code FM37S-FK34M
1x meter of 2 core wire (gives you more length from CPU to box)
1x pic chip programmer (home made or from web all ready made google for best result)

Software needed
Box models, tracks, (http://www.world-of-digital.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37728 )
tcinit.exe (http://www.world-of-digital.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37728 )
509 super. Hex (http://www.world-of-digital.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37728 )
Or
Hex of your choice
icprog 105c (http://www.world-of-digital.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37730 )
Box up (http://www.world-of-digital.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37729 )
and another tut telling me all i have to do is this
1)Get the box barcode serial number, this can be found on the bottom of the box and is a long number consisting of letters and numbers, it is located on a sticker with a barcode on it. The better way of finding this would be to switch the box on, with or without the cable feed in and press 'F' followed by the number '2', when you have done this 10 sets of 2 digit letters and number will flash up on the led display, write these down, they will be something like this 05 12 27 34 4A 56 62 70 80 95 and then it will constantly flash something random, well it means something but you don't need to know that.
Once you have these 10 sets write them out but just using the second digit, in the example above the final serial would look like this 5274A62005.

2)Find out what box you have, must be Jerrold or General Instruments for this guide, this is located on the bottom and will look like this Jerrold 550 model idppb 7316/210/v5. Now get hexgen3 from http://www.angelfire.com/tv2/cheapaschipstv/downloads.htm to create your hex file to be programmed on to the blank pic 12c509 not 509a.

3)In hexgen3 type in the serial number in the relevant spot on hexgen3 that you noted down earlier and select the box type, if you have a cft-2100 or 2143 then select cft-21xx, if its a jerrold/gi icft 20xx then select cft-20xx, if its anything else then select idppb. Leave all other setting alone apart from code protection which is best to turn off.

4)In hexgen3 now click File and Assemble, the hex file will then be created and saved in ure hexgen folder under the name Hex3.hex.

5)Start up your programmer software and click read to initialise the blank chip, then program the hex file onto the chip, see ure programmer manual for info on this.

6)Solder 4 wires to the chip, pin1=live, pin8=ground, pin7=left side of data, pin 6=right side of data.

7)Follow the relevant diagram for your box from http://members.lycos.co.uk/karen66615752/jerrold.htm . Make sure when doing this that you solder both sides of the data to the track before cutting in between otherwise you may have to go undrneath which isn't difficult just time consuming and annoying.

8)Plug the box into the wall socket without the feed(saves time when just checking) check that the box boots to 02after about 5 seconds, if it does then unplug it and go to next step, if not then unplug it and check you connections and make sure ure chip is ok, try blowing a new chip if still no joy and hope for the best.
well the 2 tuts differ one telling me i need a resetter and the other makes no mention of a resetter, so i have opted for the tut that doesnt mention the resetter now i have followed the guide and have programmed the chip using hexgen 3all i have entered the serial and clicked assemble and saved it next i have started up multi prog and have loaded the saved hexgen file and written only the file i have saved is that it or am i supposed to enter any other info onto pic asumming this is correct so far i have then followed diagrams and soldered the chip to the revelent points in box and cut the w56 track with wire soldered to either side turned box on without feed and it just blinks on and off "on" untill i turn it to a channel the hishest channel i can key in is somthing like 54 no higher than 59 is this normal and have i done every thing correctly before i plug feed in or have i gone with wrong tut and need a resetter if so any one with some clear pics on how to build one, sorry for the long message and also if covered before but couldnt seem to find revelent info i know u guys busy with the digi and so have i lots of fun just wanted to try the analogue for something different to do and to get some new toys ie elvis a new iron (whohoo) any how any help please
 
lazybones are you sure you got your name right lol looks as if you have been hard at work , anyway i seen some post on here before by a guy called clive58 do a search or even pm him as i think he and one or two other members on here were into these boxes before let me know how you get on m8 as i have an old box i would like to do my self
 
will do

thanks but no joy searching for anymore info so still none the wiser, really all i need to know is do i need a resetter if so how do i build it, and if i dont need one then how do i go about it, ? anyone
 
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lol

lol i wouldnt read all that now ive had another look at it, no worries i think ive cracked it now, i hope or i will be back with a much shorter version :Chainsaw:
 
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