Motorway middle-lane hoggers to face on-the-spot fines

So if poor IanB is driving along at 70mph in the middle lane and not causing a problem then he is actually quite legal to do this. Why should he have to move over because some pillock wants to do 80. Isn't the middle lane for overtaking traffic that is slower on the inside lane and for general use? and the outside lane for overtaking the middle lane traffic?. The solution sort the dickheads doing 80mph/90mph upwards out and your problem will be solved.

Government guidance on lane usage:

You should always drive in the left-hand lane when the road ahead is clear. If you are overtaking a number of slower-moving vehicles, you should return to the left-hand lane as soon as you are safely past. Slow-moving or speed-restricted vehicles should always remain in the left-hand lane of the carriageway unless overtaking. You MUST NOT drive on the hard shoulder except in an emergency or if directed to do so by the police, HA traffic officers in uniform or by signs.

Laws MT(E&W)R regs 5, 9 & 16(1)(a), MT(S)R regs 4, 8 & 14(1)(a), and RTA 1988, sects 35 & 186, as amended by TMA 2004 sect 6

It is unwise to attempt a 'policing' role if you're not a policeman - you could up in an accident or prosecuted.

As for speed limits, they tend to be set with human nature in mind. So, while 70mph is the limit it is expected that drivers will exceed this limit. This is why, even though modern vehicles are capable of safely travelling at greater speeds, the limit has not been raised. If it went up to 80mph more people would drive at 90mph or more.

Traffic Police take varying degrees of interest dependent on speed and conditions thus not many get pulled for doing 75mph but at 90mph plus you'll definitely attract more attention...
 
We drive on the left in this country - obey or don't drive.
 
So if poor IanB is driving along at 70mph in the middle lane and not causing a problem then he is actually quite legal to do this. Why should he have to move over because some pillock wants to do 80. Isn't the middle lane for overtaking traffic that is slower on the inside lane and for general use? and the outside lane for overtaking the middle lane traffic?. The solution sort the dickheads doing 80mph/90mph upwards out and your problem will be solved.

aye but why is he hogging the middle lane if the inside one is free? lets say its 3am in the morning & the motorway is empty, would he still hog the middle lane ? also the middle lane is used for trucks to overtake as they cant go in the "fast" lane, i am over the moon that this has been brought in tbh, to many inconsiderate drivers about now, i hope this makes the motorways run smoother
 
Government guidance on lane usage:



It is unwise to attempt a 'policing' role if you're not a policeman - you could up in an accident or prosecuted.

As for speed limits, they tend to be set with human nature in mind. So, while 70mph is the limit it is expected that drivers will exceed this limit. This is why, even though modern vehicles are capable of safely travelling at greater speeds, the limit has not been raised. If it went up to 80mph more people would drive at 90mph or more.

Traffic Police take varying degrees of interest dependent on speed and conditions thus not many get pulled for doing 75mph but at 90mph plus you'll definitely attract more attention...

Then the purpose of the middle lane is useless then isn't it?. What is the point of having three lanes if you have to stay on the inside lane or move to the outside lane to overtake. Two lanes are quite enough then, are they not?.
 
Then the purpose of the middle lane is useless then isn't it?. What is the point of having three lanes if you have to stay on the inside lane or move to the outside lane to overtake. Two lanes are quite enough then, are they not?.

Only if you assume everyone will travel at 70mph - they won't. So, if there are even a small number of vehicles in the left hand lane doing, say, 50mph (restricted venicles etc.) then many others will want to overtake using the middle lane - they might do 60mph or a little more. If there is a third lane it's free for faster vehicles to overtake.

As the volume of traffic increases you could end up with three lanes doing 50, 60 and 70 respectively making efficient use of the motorway. Anyone not travelling faster than vehicles to their left is hogging the lane and should move over.
 
:Laugh: To overtake in the outside lane means you are hogging the middle lane?. Can you see the pattern lol. The Law sucks my friend. :)

no mate, the rule is , you move to the middle lane to overtake then move back in to the 1st lane when safe to do so , so you are not "hogging" the middle lane , its simple really
 
I'm not sure how it is forcing more traffic into less road space, the road space is constant it's not like it fluctuates as you drive along it. The issue is with management (loosely) of that space, ability, common sense and forcing someone to take an alternate route by moving into the outside lane unnecessarily or indeed undertaking as frequently happens.

Not that I'm perfect by any stretch of the imagination and even I have my moments, but it's not road safety or rather as it's deemed careless driving, it's actually inconsiderate driving and more about courtesy and discipline than anything else.

but by sitting in the middle / outside lane you are cutting down on road space, those people should be on the inside lane where possible.
 
no mate, the rule is , you move to the middle lane to overtake then move back in to the 1st lane when safe to do so , so you are not "hogging" the middle lane , its simple really

Then you have motorway slip roads/traffic merging from the left you are then forced to move over to the middle lane to allow/let these people barge there way in front of you. Then it is you that has to move back to the inside lane. It's bollox mate.
 
if you have someone entering from the slip road you move to the middle lane if its safe to do so,then move back , if its not safe ie the outer lane is full of traffic , then if they don't give way its on there own head, tbf we aint talking about slip roads etc , we are talking about the planks that sit in the middle lane for miles at a time
 
if you have someone entering from the slip road you move to the middle lane if its safe to do so,then move back , if its not safe ie the outer lane is full of traffic , then if they don't give way its on there own head, tbf we aint talking about slip roads etc , we are talking about the planks that sit in the middle lane for miles at a time
The slip road is the approach to the motorway so yes it counts as a Motorway subject. I can just picture nara jumping up and down with his eyes bulging at this thread. Sorry sweetie but a man has to do what a man has to do. ;)
 
I travel a bit on the motorways and what really get me is people that are traveling the same speed as me and infront that pull over to the inside lane when there is a truck a mile up the road
only to pull back out in front of me 30 seconds later when up the trucks ass
just another way to make cops more like fine collectors to me
 
I can just picture nara jumping up and down with his eyes bulging at this thread. Sorry sweetie but a man has to do what a man has to do. ;)

No problem miggy. There has been a fair amount of sh*t posted on this thread admittedly, but I just pop another Mogadon and wash it down with a G&T. :cool:
 
I travel a bit on the motorways and what really get me is people that are traveling the same speed as me and infront that pull over to the inside lane when there is a truck a mile up the road
only to pull back out in front of me 30 seconds later when up the trucks ass
just another way to make cops more like fine collectors to me

I agree with this to some extent, no point if you are going to be constantly pulling in and out but what is a reasonable time to pull in ? Sometimes you get the guy who decides to overtake when she is only doing +1mph more then you and it takes them 2 or 3 minutes to get by. Other times the vehicle behind is past you in seconds and then it would have been worth pulling over.
 
Then you have motorway slip roads/traffic merging from the left you are then forced to move over to the middle lane to allow/let these people barge there way in front of you. Then it is you that has to move back to the inside lane. It's bollox mate.

they are not barging - it's merging - everyone needs road etiquette especially on fast moving motor ways.
 
they are not barging - it's merging - everyone needs road etiquette especially on fast moving motor ways.


Bollox hahaha i have been forced off the road thanks to these pricks it is them that are joining the Motorway which I am already on. it is there problem not mine. :)
 
Exos,

"Probably need to read your highway code them mate

B) The INSIDE LANE (aka) SLOW LANE: This lane is for slow moving vehicles such as lorries, caravans on tow, and vehicles traveling below 65 mph. As a rule, the minimum speed to travel on the motorway is 50 mph, anything below this becomes dangerous unless specified by roadwork signs and traffic flow signals (note: this is not taking into account the weather). Apart from slow moving vehicles, the inside lane is used for entering and exiting the motorway. A good rule of thumb, if you are in the inside lane and are approaching a motorway entrance where vehicles are joining the motorway, indicate and move over to the centre lane to give room to those vehicles trying to get on the motorway. And when leaving the motorway try to manoeuvre to the outside lane a good mile before you need to exit, this will decrease the possibility of needing to cut across traffic to get off the motorway.

C) The CENTER LANE: The average speed of the centre lane is 70 mph. this lane is also used for slow moving vehicles who are overtaking even slower vehicles from the slow lane. A rule of thumb, if you are cruising along in the centre lane and notice in your rear view mirror a vehicle rapidly approaching, the polite thing to do is indicate and move to the slow lane and let this vehicle pass. If the slow lane is unavailable, then you are well within your right to stay in your lane at your speed. Please note at this point, the Highway code is not just a set of rules in a book, it is actually a code of honour amongst drivers, to show courtesy to your fellow driver actually makes the roads a safer place and increases the joy of driving for all. So if at all possible, do not hog the centre lane, if you do not feel like driving at 70 mph the inside lane is there for you.

D) The OVERTAKING LANE: The purpose of this lane is simple, to overtake, nothing more and nothing less. If you are in the centre lane doing 70 mph and a lorry pulls into your lane doing 65 mph because he is overtaking another lorry traveling at 50 mph, you have the outside lane to move to so you may maintain your speed at 70 mph until it is safe to move back to the centre lane. The outside lane is NOT just another lane to drive in, and it is very important to leave this lane free specifically for overtaking. It is actually illegal to Undertake a car (that is to pass a vehicle from the left hand side) so by driving slowly in the outside lane, you would be forcing other drivers to break the law, should they wish to pass you."

Don't know where you got that from mate, but I don't think it is the Highway Code !
Rule 264 is fromthe Highway Code :: 264

You should always drive in the left-hand lane when the road ahead is clear. If you are overtaking a number of slower-moving vehicles, you should return to the left-hand lane as soon as you are safely past. Slow-moving or speed-restricted vehicles should always remain in the left-hand lane of the carriageway unless overtaking. You MUST NOT drive on the hard shoulder except in an emergency or if directed to do so by the police, HA traffic officers in uniform or by signs.


[Laws MT(E&W)R regs 5, 9 & 16(1)(a), MT(S)R regs 4, 8 & 14(1)(a), and RTA 1988, sects 35 & 186, as amended by TMA 2004 sect 6]

So the Inside Lane is just the Inside Lane NOT a Slow Lane, I think the "aka Slow Lane" derives from those that sit in the middle lane all day. The Middle and Outside Lanes are for Overtaking Only.
As for anyone who says "but I am doing 70 mph, so anyone who overtakes me is breaking the law" I say "But you are breaking the law by sitting in the middle lane, so does that make you any better or worse than those breaking the speed limit ?"
Very few drivers today show any common sense or courtesy while driving and this to me is "Driving with undue care and attention" a ruling that had largely been ignored unless it had resulted in an accident.
I will admit to speeding on a motorway when conditions have enabled me to do so, but I have only ever sat in the Middle lane when I have been unable to get out onto the Outside lane because of other overtaking traffic, which probably would have been in the Middle Lane had the idoit at the front of the queue of traffic in the Middle lane pulled over onto the Inside lane and allowed others to pass.
 
Bollox hahaha i have been forced off the road thanks to these pricks it is them that are joining the Motorway which I am already on. it is there problem not mine.


Sorry miggy, the mogadon just ran out.

ManofScience's post is quite correct and in line with Advanced driving theory. I sincerely hope you have your tongue in cheek at the moment. :Angryfire
 
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Bollox hahaha i have been forced off the road thanks to these pricks it is them that are joining the Motorway which I am already on. it is there problem not mine. :)

You are right about that Miggy it is their problem, as covered by Rule 259 of the Highway Code : Joining the motorway. When you join the motorway you will normally approach it from a road on the left (a slip road) or from an adjoining motorway. You should
•give priority to traffic already on the motorway
•check the traffic on the motorway and match your speed to fit safely into the traffic flow in the left-hand lane
•not cross solid white lines that separate lanes or use the hard shoulder
•stay on the slip road if it continues as an extra lane on the motorway
•remain in the left-hand lane long enough to adjust to the speed of traffic before considering overtaking
 
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