Why should we pay for BBC

I honestly cannot remember the last time i watched a BBC channel, or listened to a BBC radio station,l and yet i'm still having to pay the annual TV licence fee.

Ever visit the BBC website or watch any of their content on re-run channel.

BBC have produced some awesome TV including childrens TV, it globally recognised and it would be a massive shame if their funding was removed. If it had to only produce TV for profit we would get an endless rerun of soaps, reality TV and imported US shows.
 
I can understand why we have to pay the fee, but each time they can get away with it they up the price. I think it frozen at the moment, but as soon as they can it will be up again. The real question is, what are we actually paying the fee for? Where is the breakdown of the fee? This is done for the council tax, why can't they at least tell us where the money goes.

One of you out there is now bound to post a link explaining the fee, so in advance cheers. As it's always baffled me.
 
The UK is not unique in charging a license fee, most European countries charge some sort of fee to fund public broadcast TV & Radio. And also we are not the most expensive.

Austria = TV Licence from €223.32 to 279.72 Radio Licence from €65.52 to €82.32.
Finland = From €224.30 to €232.20
Germany = €204.36 per annum for TV and radio, and €66.24 for just radio.
Norway = 2434.32 kr ~ €300
Sweden = 2076 kr ~ €200
UK = £145.50 (~€175) colour / £49.00 (~€55) monochrome
Turkey = 2% of electricity bill and indirect charge on Equipment at purchase
Switzerland = CHF 450.35 ~ €292

A brief explanation and in answer to someone's question the BBC gets most of the money.

United Kingdom

A television license is required to receive any live television transmission in the United Kingdom, whether it is received via terrestrial, satellite, cable or the internet. It is not, however, required for those possessing a TV set, for the purpose of watching pre-recorded content, or for use as a monitor for video games or computers.

It is set annually by the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport with the BBC responsible for collecting payment. As it is classified in law as a tax,[46] evasion is a criminal offence.

The current annual cost for is £145.50 (approximately €164) for a colour licence and £49.00 (approximately €55) for monochrome.[47] Discounted, free or government-paid licences are available to viewers over 75, blind people and those in residential care.

The licence covers multiple receivers in a 'household', with separately rented or leased rooms and apartments being considered as individual households.[48]

The licence is almost entirely used to fund the BBC's domestic radio, television and internet services, including its Welsh language programming aired on S4C — a public service broadcaster which serves welsh speakers, run independently from the BBC. The money received from the fee represents approximately 75% of the cost of these services with most of the remainder coming from the profits of BBC Worldwide — a commercial wing of the corporation which sells programmes and runs stations overseas (such as BBC World News), as well as other business allied to broadcasting such as publishing.[49] The BBC also receives some funding from the Scottish Government via MG Alba to finance the BBC Alba television service in Scotland.

The BBC also receives a direct government grant from the Foreign and Commonwealth Office to fund television and radio services broadcast to other countries such as the BBC World Service radio and BBC Arabic Television. These services run on a non-profit, non-commercial basis distinct from other BBC 'branded' overseas services provided by the commercial BBC Worldwide (see above). Hence, neither the World Service nor the commercial BBC services receive any UK licence money.

Other public service broadcasters not directly funded by the fee include Channel 4; funded through advertising, and S4C; funded through a combination of direct grant from the Department for Culture, Media and Sport, advertising and programming provided free of charge by the BBC (see above). These broadcasters are much smaller in terms of services provided or levels of spending than the BBC.

A small portion of the licence fee is used by the BBC to enforce payment, as well as funding Digital UK, a body established to assist in the process of Digital Switchover and a direct payment to Channel 4, to assist in its digital switchover.[50]

A similar licence, mandated by the 1904 Wireless Telegraphy Act, existed for radio, but was abolished in 1971.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licence

Operation of the licensing system

The licence fee is set annually by the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport by the use of Statutory Instruments.

The BBC is authorised by the Communications Act 2003 to collect the licence fees. The money received is first paid into the Government's Consolidated Fund. It is subsequently included in the 'vote' for the Department of Culture, Media and Sport in that year's Appropriation Act, and passed on to the BBC for the running of the BBC's own services (free from commercial advertisements), and for the BBC to produce programming for S4C.

The licence fee is classified as a tax,[3] and evasion is a criminal offence. Since 1991, collection and enforcement of the licence fee is the responsibility of the BBC in its role as TV Licensing Authority.[4] The BBC pursues its licence fee collection and enforcement under the trading name "TV Licensing", but subcontracts much of the task to commercial organisations.[4][5] A major subcontractor is Capita[6] which specialises in outsourcing for government projects.

The licence fee can be paid annually, monthly or quarterly by Direct Debit, or monthly or weekly with a cash payment plan, which was introduced for those with limited means or no bank account, and replaced a previous scheme using trading stamps.[7] The payment plan was designed not to discriminate against those who don't receive government benefits.[citation needed]

Payments made using Direct Debit carry an additional cost of £5.00 per year, or £1.25 a quarter, which is included in the licence fee total. This addition is describes as "a small charge" in the generic letter issued by TV Licensing to those paying by Direct Debit, and on the TV Licensing website it is justified with: "Since the majority of the licence is paid for in arrears, your quarterly payments will include a premium of £1.25".[8]

In the United Kingdom, and also the Bailiwick of Guernsey and the Isle of Man, free TV licences are available for households with a member aged over 75. This is funded in the UK by the Department for Work and Pensions, and in the Crown dependencies by their respective governments. The States of Jersey did not initially opt to extend this concession to their island;[9] but free licences were later introduced for over 75s if they received an income under £13,000 for single people, or £21,000 for couples.[10] On the Isle of Man, pensioners under 75 who receive income support can also get free licences. The funding is provided by the Manx Department of Health and Social Security.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licensing_in_the_United_Kingdom
 
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UK = £145.50 (~€175) colour / £49.00 (~€55) monochrome
lmfao

i thought monochrome (black and white) stopped yrs ago

but thinking about it how many broadcasts are in anoluge now??

or how many black and white sets are digital???
lol
 
anyway the license fee is not for the BBC - it is for the retired employees on fat pensions getting 30 - 50k a year
 
Really makes you laugh. you can choose to have Sky and Vermin but to be able to watch them you have to have a tv licence.

Has anyone taken them to court over the fact that there is no choice. I mean all the bloody scum bags head off to the EU courts when they get convicted, can't imagine this hasn't already been there.
 
personally i dont care what anyone says, its all about choice, i dont watch hardly anything on the bbc, i dont listen to the radio, i dont even go on there website, i`m an amputee and i can count on what fingers i have left as to how many times ive watched iplayer.

simple as that.

i would much prefer to watch the tiny bit of bbc telly i do watch with adverts and get it free.

and i think if we ever get to the see the full breakdown of how much money the bbc make from selling what they do make as to how much they charge for the license, i`m sure they would do very well without the license fee and start using the money they have better. The licensing fee is a crook for them to lean on and justify the ridiculus amount they pay there `top celebs` and fat cat chiefs.

i`m mean lets face it, would it of been such a bit loss to loose johnathan woss from the bbc and see him go over to itv? we still get to watch the cnut!


but instead they raise his pay even more to keep the tw@t.......
 
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It pays for quality programming with no adverts [spooks for one example] the apprentice another [wait for the boooos] and holby city.
Well I am over fifty I have an excuse
I think they should sell off local radio stations they are so patronising sitting in their ivory towers transmitting aload of dribble

both of those programs i dont watch or care to, so in effect i`m paying for your quality tv with no adverts.


choice.......
 
I am going to take them to court for sending radio waves through my property without my permission. Wonder if it would work lol
 
both of those programs i dont watch or care to, so in effect i`m paying for your quality tv with no adverts.


choice.......

Don't pay the license then.

I don't, I never watch live channels any way, my cable box isn't even wired up.

All the shows we watch I download, we watch more US shows than anything so we get them before they are broadast in the UK and in HD too.

The only UK shows we watch are things like Spooks, Sherlock & Getting On, and we download those too.
 
I personally find the License fee money well spent.

The BBC produces some very high quality original shows, something that I can't say for any of the other channels. It also keeps the benchmark high for all other channels to aim for. The moment the license fee is withdrawn and the BBc has to rely on commercials will be the moment that every other channel resorts to sticking on adverts every 5 minutes.

Anyone who has been to the states and watched TV over there will understand.
 
I personally find the License fee money well spent.

The BBC produces some very high quality original shows, something that I can't say for any of the other channels. It also keeps the benchmark high for all other channels to aim for. The moment the license fee is withdrawn and the BBc has to rely on commercials will be the moment that every other channel resorts to sticking on adverts every 5 minutes.

Anyone who has been to the states and watched TV over there will understand.

I would rather the BBC show adverts than be forced into pay a fee.

I think it's unfair that all the other channels have to compete for funding by advertising, and fighting to keep viewers, when the BBC can sit back on the license fee without giving worrying about it's viewing figures.

Some of the "high quality" shows that the BBC screen are not actually made by the BBC, they are bought by them and if they didn't buy them some other channel would. Other shows are made in conjunction with other station, like the series Rome which was made in conjunction with HBO and Merlin is made by Shine on commission from the BBC.

If they scrapped the fee the people would soon see how much the BBC depended on it and how crap they are without it.

Or instead of scrapping the fee, maybe go pay-per-view and then they will soon see how many people actually want to pay for it.
I've been to the states a few times and I don't find their tv bad at all. They have way more choice than we do.
 
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I would rather the BBC show adverts than be forced into pay a fee.

I think it's unfair that all the other channels have to compete for funding by advertising, and fighting to keep viewers, when the BBC can sit back on the license fee without giving worrying about it's viewing figures.

But not all other tv channels are public service broadcasters and dont come under the public service broadcast remit, so not entitled to funding from the license fee.
 
I personally find the License fee money well spent.

The BBC produces some very high quality original shows, something that I can't say for any of the other channels. It also keeps the benchmark high for all other channels to aim for. The moment the license fee is withdrawn and the BBc has to rely on commercials will be the moment that every other channel resorts to sticking on adverts every 5 minutes.

Anyone who has been to the states and watched TV over there will understand.

Totally Agree, The BBC are well known for quality programming and if you look at the sky and cable companies,most of their programmes are repeated and over 6 years old

How many times have you seen mythbusters repeated to name but a few

The missus and me never watch cable coz sick of the adverts on every 5 mins and like i said repeated more times than i care to remember and then lose interest in what i was watching, we only have the cable for the kids and they seem to not watch it much these days so i got a feeling the cable will be going.

I have never understood how people complain when they are quite happy to hand out £50.00 a month on sky and yet complain over £140 a year which being around about £12 a month
 
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I have no problem with the BBC being paid for it's service, I just have a problem being forced to pay to watch all the other FREE channels.

They should find a way to charge for the BBC where you can opt out if you want to watch the others.

But they will never do that because they know the if the BBC had to compete with other channels in a fair fight they would lose. Or perhaps if the license fee was shared out to the other 3 major channels they too would be able to afford some decent programs.

The Broadcasting Receiving Licence of 10 shillings was introduced in November 1922 to cover existing BBC radio broadcasts, as well as the BBC's 405-line television service between November 1936 and September 1939. The Television Licence was introduced in June 1946 to coincide with the post-war resumption of the BBC service the same month. The Colour Television Licence (actually a "colour supplementary fee" of £5 on top of the existing Monochrome Licence) was introduced in 1968, following the commencement of BBC2 colour transmissions the previous July.

It's always been about the BBC, so why charge for ITV and such.
 
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you don't pay for itv,The BBC is paid for through license and we pay for its TV, radio and online services
 
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I think that BBC are a terrible service to be honest alrite i know CH4 and ITV arnt that much better but at least they offer other services.Like for sky and i think virgin customers get a plus one from ITV and CH4 and just look at 4OD prob one of the best services on the net as it offers alot of good archived stuff from around a good 20 years ago.All the BBCI player has to offer is prgrammes from around 1-2 weeks max.I would love to see BBCI offer older programmes.
 
you don't pay for itv,The BBC is paid for through license and we pay for its TV, radio and online services

Whilst the money doesn't go to ITV you still are paying to watch it because if you don't pay the license fee you can't watch any channel. So in order to watch ITV or C4 or any channel you are forced to pay the fee.

It should be about choice. If you want cable then you have to pay, you don't pay you don't get. If you want sky then you have to pay, you don't pay you don't get.

But if you don't want the BBC you still have to pay.

Make the BBC subscription based, same as cable & sky. Then those that don't want it don't pay it.
 
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