Credit Crunch

Hope you don't mind me askin but why have ya got "Soar Alba" in your sig if you are Irish ?...


Just nosy lol


where did you get im irish m8

ive lived in ireland for going on 20 years an class myself as a nationalist but i am scottish and am a snottish nationalist . just to clear that up lol . if it dont make sense thats ok most of my life dosent lol
 
So you new gorden was going to be in from the time of the genral election then !! i wish i could see the future too.
 
where did you get im irish m8

ive lived in ireland for going on 20 years an class myself as a nationalist but i am scottish and am a snottish nationalist . just to clear that up lol . if it dont make sense thats ok most of my life dosent lol


Classic !! :roflmao:


Cool no hassle, did not know you could be a nationalist for more than one country but hey if it works dont fix it lol.
 
No matter who you vote for, it won't make any difference. The recession is worldwide. There are food and fuel protests and riots happening everywhere from Europe to Asia at the moment.

I am concerned enough about rising food prices that I am thinking about growing my own veg at home.
 
Classic !! :roflmao:


Cool no hassle, did not know you could be a nationalist for more than one country but hey if it works dont fix it lol.

lol classic typo lol ... i can m8 i believe in freedom of every country to self rule . then things like this wouldnt happen as much look at the irish ecomany its still growing while us in the north are having to put up with bad investments falling house prices higher fuel prices because of mistakes made by a forgine goverment .
 
So you new gorden was going to be in from the time of the genral election then !! i wish i could see the future too.

You're not getting the point pacman m8. We don't vote for a PM in this country. We vote for a political party. It's up to that party to choose their leader, and yes, anybody with any political knowledge knew that Brown was taking over during this parliament. Many Prime Ministers, both Labour and Tory have come to power in exactly the same way.
 
I am concerned enough about rising food prices that I am thinking about growing my own veg at home.

im concerned enough about rising food prices that I am thinking about becoming a shoplifter
 
lol classic typo lol ... i can m8 i believe in freedom of every country to self rule . then things like this wouldnt happen as much look at the irish ecomany its still growing while us in the north are having to put up with bad investments falling house prices higher fuel prices because of mistakes made by a forgine goverment .
The credit crunch would still have happened though, its due to foreign investments by banks.

Anyway, how does a foreign government affect the price of housing in the UK at all?
 
I cant get a bloody apprenticeship cause of this recession

men getting laid off so companies cant hire, its getting so much harder to get a job in the construction trades now :(

Cheers
MFCGAVMFC
 
yes, ok. How does the US government have anything to do with the credit crunch?

Or is this another conspiracy?
 
m8 they are the most powerull goverment in the world everything they do affects us . thier ecomany is in a bad state so this is due to over spending in iraq . near 700 billion so far . this cost a lot of loans to be called in our banks heavily invested in the us mortage markets and their housing market has cloasped . jobs being lost . houses with moratages worth more than the homes people going bankrupt its all has a massive domino affect . the dollar at the moment is near 2 dollars to a pound thats crazy .
 
m8 they are the most powerull goverment in the world everything they do affects us . thier ecomany is in a bad state so this is due to over spending in iraq . near 700 billion so far . this cost a lot of loans to be called in our banks heavily invested in the us mortage markets and their housing market has cloasped . jobs being lost . houses with moratages worth more than the homes people going bankrupt its all has a massive domino affect . the dollar at the moment is near 2 dollars to a pound thats crazy .
so you plainly dont understand what the credit crunch is, or how it could occur with or without the US then.

It works like this: Bank A loans billions to Bank B, Bank B loans millions to Bank C, Bank C loans hundreds of thousands to whoever, people, businesses etc. Some of the people Bank C loan to are known to be high risk, but Bank C doesnt mind as it likes loaning to high risk areas, higer interest.

Now, these high risk customers of Bank C start to default on their loans to Bank C, which is a shame but was always going to happen. Bank C cant keep up its repayments to Bank B, as it had too much cash out on loan in high risk areas, so is a bit screwed. As a result Bank B isnt able to pay of its loan of billions to Bank A.

The result, well everyone holds their breath for a bit and tries not to panic, they have seen this before and know that the national banks will try to sort it. However, all those Bank C's out there have been loaning to too many high risk customers and the national banks can see this, so they cant alter the economy too much without sending the global markets into panic. So we all end up with smaller banks going bust (Norther Rock for instance, who just loved those high risk customers) and some of the larger banks merging with even bigger banks (Bear & Stearns is a good example of this).

Now, you will notice that the geogrpahical locations of these banks and their customer bases are irrelevant - it wouldnt have mattered if they were in Australia or Russia or the US, the same thing will have happend.

Also, the cost of the war in Iraq has nothing to do with this at all, it is a completely seperate matter. If you would like to know, the US econmy was more or less static well before the Iraq war, and as all avid conspiracy theorists know - countries love wars as it makes them money, not the government, but the business man. Most countries in Europe are now operating outside of a war or arms economy, but making the shift from one is a very dicey matter. Wars and armed conflict make money for businesses, they keep people in jobs and keep money flowing due to the large amount of goods flowing through factories, warehouses and showrooms.

So, to sum up, you have the idea right, it is a domino effect, but you are slightly incorrect as to why it has happend.
 
Very true I agree with you there' That does not excuse bad government decisions made by people like our lovly (not voted in) priminister..
just a slant on this when do u vote in a priminister u vote in a party
and the leader of that party then becomes the pm


but back on subject i have felt it with fuel petrol i used to put £20 in my tank and get 23 ltr now i get 17ltr but its ok i have gone down from a 2ltr mondeo to a 1.3ltr escort
and am saving :)
but as for energy prices
had the gas bill come in this week
gas bill shows we are £115 in credit
and in same post had a letter saying this is the yearly review u was paying £16 per mth now we want £39 per mth
wtf??? increase of 140%
i phoned up and had murder with them they have now put it back down to £16
the cheeck bastards

my rant over
 
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