Spiky I think Andy's trying to program a pic chip 12c508a not a goldie.<br />Andy I've already posted some help don't know whats happened to it,so I'll try again.<br />First off m8 and no offence but using capitals on your post is classed as shouting.<br />Now if you connect up your Elvis and open your Mp6,"Iuse Mp7 myself" I hope it's the same.<br />1) Click on" Add new project.<br />2)Once you are in "Select device" box, double click on the"Micro chip" tab.<br />3)You will see a list of devices appear.<br />4)Double click on pic of your choice212C508 in your case.<br />5)This will revert you back to the opening box but with the 12c508 illuminated in blue.<br />6)Show it the way to your Hex file,by using the "Open" box.<br />7)Click on the "Program" button and that should be it.<br />Cheers for now. <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <img src="smile.gif" border="0">