hi i have a pace 4000 that originaly came from a telepest area but i"m ex-C&W and the box is stuck in update tryed all the tricks with no joy,basicly the box needs taking into a telepest area to update wich would be great if i new somebody in a telepest area,so if anybody has a box from EX-C&W/vm box and have got the same problem maybe we could exchange boxes nothing at all wrong with the box ya can enter engineers menu and no probs setting area id wich if ya wondering my area is 41060-bolton,or somebody who would be kind enough to allow me to let the box update wich i know is a bit much 2 ask so i"v asked anyway,so if eather ov mi reqests is fine please pm me and i will forward a contact number,many thanks