ok wizz or anyone that can help ive tryed to telnet the ipk the pick will show the error im getting now as i said doing anything with the 800 is new to me but when you say to put it in the tmp folder i thoght it would be on the root if you no what i mean but with this image it looks like a symlink that takes you to the tmp is that why it says no file and i need to change something in the comand if i cant get this to work i might look for your image againg cheers tony