ntlworld mail rant

[Ian Cox]

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:25:21 +0100, Graham wrote:

> Last night I sent 2 emails from one of my freeserve accounts, one with
> 'test' in the subject and the other with 'test' in the body. The subject one
> was deliverd, I am still waiting for the body one.

<counts repeated posts>

Well, you certainly have no problems posting to newsgroups! ;O)

--
Ian Cox
Sutton-in-Ashfield
icq 116510696

 

[Graham]

Wooos, Sorry.

 

[AngelHosts.com]

"Graham" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> "Ant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "Graham" wrote in alt.spam ...
> >
> > > Freeserve recently started to mark my mail from gisajob.com as ***
SPAM
> ***
> > > in the subject field. Does anyone know if this method is a replacement
> for,
> > > or an addition to Freeserves failure to deliver mail with certain
> single
> > > line message bodies, as a crude way of filtering w32Netsky variants.
> >
> > "In addition to", I believe. The only other crude filtering I'm aware
> > of, is the rejection or dropping of emails with certain subject lines
> > used by viruses. "Test" and "Hello" are examples. I don't think they
> > look at message bodies.
> >
> >
>
> Last night I sent 2 emails from one of my freeserve accounts, one with
> 'test' in the subject and the other with 'test' in the body. The subject
one
> was deliverd, I am still waiting for the body one.
>
>
They seem to have changed there spam/virus filters then! When i emailed a
friend on her Freeserve a/c with Hi, Hello, and Test in the subject line
they never arrived and nor were they returned.

I assumed this was due to the recent viruses with the above in the subject
line.

--

Regards

Krystian

 

[Graham]

Wooos, Sorry.

 

[AngelHosts.com]

"Graham" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> "Ant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "Graham" wrote in alt.spam ...
> >
> > > Freeserve recently started to mark my mail from gisajob.com as ***
SPAM
> ***
> > > in the subject field. Does anyone know if this method is a replacement
> for,
> > > or an addition to Freeserves failure to deliver mail with certain
> single
> > > line message bodies, as a crude way of filtering w32Netsky variants.
> >
> > "In addition to", I believe. The only other crude filtering I'm aware
> > of, is the rejection or dropping of emails with certain subject lines
> > used by viruses. "Test" and "Hello" are examples. I don't think they
> > look at message bodies.
> >
> >
>
> Last night I sent 2 emails from one of my freeserve accounts, one with
> 'test' in the subject and the other with 'test' in the body. The subject
one
> was deliverd, I am still waiting for the body one.
>
>
They seem to have changed there spam/virus filters then! When i emailed a
friend on her Freeserve a/c with Hi, Hello, and Test in the subject line
they never arrived and nor were they returned.

I assumed this was due to the recent viruses with the above in the subject
line.

--

Regards

Krystian

 

[Graham]

Wooos, Sorry.

 

[AngelHosts.com]

"Graham" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> "Ant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "Graham" wrote in alt.spam ...
> >
> > > Freeserve recently started to mark my mail from gisajob.com as ***
SPAM
> ***
> > > in the subject field. Does anyone know if this method is a replacement
> for,
> > > or an addition to Freeserves failure to deliver mail with certain
> single
> > > line message bodies, as a crude way of filtering w32Netsky variants.
> >
> > "In addition to", I believe. The only other crude filtering I'm aware
> > of, is the rejection or dropping of emails with certain subject lines
> > used by viruses. "Test" and "Hello" are examples. I don't think they
> > look at message bodies.
> >
> >
>
> Last night I sent 2 emails from one of my freeserve accounts, one with
> 'test' in the subject and the other with 'test' in the body. The subject
one
> was deliverd, I am still waiting for the body one.
>
>
They seem to have changed there spam/virus filters then! When i emailed a
friend on her Freeserve a/c with Hi, Hello, and Test in the subject line
they never arrived and nor were they returned.

I assumed this was due to the recent viruses with the above in the subject
line.

--

Regards

Krystian

 

[Graham]

Wooos, Sorry.

 

[AngelHosts.com]

"Graham" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> "Ant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "Graham" wrote in alt.spam ...
> >
> > > Freeserve recently started to mark my mail from gisajob.com as ***
SPAM
> ***
> > > in the subject field. Does anyone know if this method is a replacement
> for,
> > > or an addition to Freeserves failure to deliver mail with certain
> single
> > > line message bodies, as a crude way of filtering w32Netsky variants.
> >
> > "In addition to", I believe. The only other crude filtering I'm aware
> > of, is the rejection or dropping of emails with certain subject lines
> > used by viruses. "Test" and "Hello" are examples. I don't think they
> > look at message bodies.
> >
> >
>
> Last night I sent 2 emails from one of my freeserve accounts, one with
> 'test' in the subject and the other with 'test' in the body. The subject
one
> was deliverd, I am still waiting for the body one.
>
>
They seem to have changed there spam/virus filters then! When i emailed a
friend on her Freeserve a/c with Hi, Hello, and Test in the subject line
they never arrived and nor were they returned.

I assumed this was due to the recent viruses with the above in the subject
line.

--

Regards

Krystian

 

[Graham]

Wooos, Sorry.

 

[AngelHosts.com]

"Graham" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> "Ant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "Graham" wrote in alt.spam ...
> >
> > > Freeserve recently started to mark my mail from gisajob.com as ***
SPAM
> ***
> > > in the subject field. Does anyone know if this method is a replacement
> for,
> > > or an addition to Freeserves failure to deliver mail with certain
> single
> > > line message bodies, as a crude way of filtering w32Netsky variants.
> >
> > "In addition to", I believe. The only other crude filtering I'm aware
> > of, is the rejection or dropping of emails with certain subject lines
> > used by viruses. "Test" and "Hello" are examples. I don't think they
> > look at message bodies.
> >
> >
>
> Last night I sent 2 emails from one of my freeserve accounts, one with
> 'test' in the subject and the other with 'test' in the body. The subject
one
> was deliverd, I am still waiting for the body one.
>
>
They seem to have changed there spam/virus filters then! When i emailed a
friend on her Freeserve a/c with Hi, Hello, and Test in the subject line
they never arrived and nor were they returned.

I assumed this was due to the recent viruses with the above in the subject
line.

--

Regards

Krystian

 

[Graham]

Wooos, Sorry.

 

[AngelHosts.com]

"Graham" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> "Ant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "Graham" wrote in alt.spam ...
> >
> > > Freeserve recently started to mark my mail from gisajob.com as ***
SPAM
> ***
> > > in the subject field. Does anyone know if this method is a replacement
> for,
> > > or an addition to Freeserves failure to deliver mail with certain
> single
> > > line message bodies, as a crude way of filtering w32Netsky variants.
> >
> > "In addition to", I believe. The only other crude filtering I'm aware
> > of, is the rejection or dropping of emails with certain subject lines
> > used by viruses. "Test" and "Hello" are examples. I don't think they
> > look at message bodies.
> >
> >
>
> Last night I sent 2 emails from one of my freeserve accounts, one with
> 'test' in the subject and the other with 'test' in the body. The subject
one
> was deliverd, I am still waiting for the body one.
>
>
They seem to have changed there spam/virus filters then! When i emailed a
friend on her Freeserve a/c with Hi, Hello, and Test in the subject line
they never arrived and nor were they returned.

I assumed this was due to the recent viruses with the above in the subject
line.

--

Regards

Krystian

 

[David Derrick]

Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>chopsmcp wrote:
>
>> [cross-posted: hope people feel it's legitimate]
>> Well, after all those outages to upgrade the mailservers, it's back
>> to being as bad as it ever was. Some observations:
>> My ntlworld addy gets 100+ spam messages a day. It's not that hard
>>to
>> cope with; I use spampal & OE's filters and most of it doesn't make
>> it past the server. But here's the point: all the spam I get is
>> To/CC:'d exclusively to ntlworld addresses. A few months ago, I set
>> up a "delete-on-server" rule for anything CCd to ntlworld addies with
>> the same first letter as mine. It rapidly collected about 300 addies.
>>
>I was with NTLWorld. I used to get spams that were specifically
>addressed to NTLWorld users, in the sense that the marketing puff spoke
>to NTLWorld users - like "To all NTL World users: EXCLUSIVE OFFER!".
>
>It's not beyond the bounds of possibility, to my mind, that NTL have an
>"arrangement" with some murketer or other. Based on my experience, I'd
>be inclined to trust them about as far as I could throw their
>head-office building.

This has definitely happened at some point. I signed up to NTLworld as a
backup dialup. The email address was *never* used but within a week junk
started coming into the inbox. Presumably it's still arriving and
clogging up their servers. I haven't checked for a very long time.

Dave
--
There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary,
and those who don't.

 

[David Derrick]

Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>chopsmcp wrote:
>
>> [cross-posted: hope people feel it's legitimate]
>> Well, after all those outages to upgrade the mailservers, it's back
>> to being as bad as it ever was. Some observations:
>> My ntlworld addy gets 100+ spam messages a day. It's not that hard
>>to
>> cope with; I use spampal & OE's filters and most of it doesn't make
>> it past the server. But here's the point: all the spam I get is
>> To/CC:'d exclusively to ntlworld addresses. A few months ago, I set
>> up a "delete-on-server" rule for anything CCd to ntlworld addies with
>> the same first letter as mine. It rapidly collected about 300 addies.
>>
>I was with NTLWorld. I used to get spams that were specifically
>addressed to NTLWorld users, in the sense that the marketing puff spoke
>to NTLWorld users - like "To all NTL World users: EXCLUSIVE OFFER!".
>
>It's not beyond the bounds of possibility, to my mind, that NTL have an
>"arrangement" with some murketer or other. Based on my experience, I'd
>be inclined to trust them about as far as I could throw their
>head-office building.

This has definitely happened at some point. I signed up to NTLworld as a
backup dialup. The email address was *never* used but within a week junk
started coming into the inbox. Presumably it's still arriving and
clogging up their servers. I haven't checked for a very long time.

Dave
--
There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary,
and those who don't.

 

[David Derrick]

Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>chopsmcp wrote:
>
>> [cross-posted: hope people feel it's legitimate]
>> Well, after all those outages to upgrade the mailservers, it's back
>> to being as bad as it ever was. Some observations:
>> My ntlworld addy gets 100+ spam messages a day. It's not that hard
>>to
>> cope with; I use spampal & OE's filters and most of it doesn't make
>> it past the server. But here's the point: all the spam I get is
>> To/CC:'d exclusively to ntlworld addresses. A few months ago, I set
>> up a "delete-on-server" rule for anything CCd to ntlworld addies with
>> the same first letter as mine. It rapidly collected about 300 addies.
>>
>I was with NTLWorld. I used to get spams that were specifically
>addressed to NTLWorld users, in the sense that the marketing puff spoke
>to NTLWorld users - like "To all NTL World users: EXCLUSIVE OFFER!".
>
>It's not beyond the bounds of possibility, to my mind, that NTL have an
>"arrangement" with some murketer or other. Based on my experience, I'd
>be inclined to trust them about as far as I could throw their
>head-office building.

This has definitely happened at some point. I signed up to NTLworld as a
backup dialup. The email address was *never* used but within a week junk
started coming into the inbox. Presumably it's still arriving and
clogging up their servers. I haven't checked for a very long time.

Dave
--
There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary,
and those who don't.

 

[David Derrick]

Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>chopsmcp wrote:
>
>> [cross-posted: hope people feel it's legitimate]
>> Well, after all those outages to upgrade the mailservers, it's back
>> to being as bad as it ever was. Some observations:
>> My ntlworld addy gets 100+ spam messages a day. It's not that hard
>>to
>> cope with; I use spampal & OE's filters and most of it doesn't make
>> it past the server. But here's the point: all the spam I get is
>> To/CC:'d exclusively to ntlworld addresses. A few months ago, I set
>> up a "delete-on-server" rule for anything CCd to ntlworld addies with
>> the same first letter as mine. It rapidly collected about 300 addies.
>>
>I was with NTLWorld. I used to get spams that were specifically
>addressed to NTLWorld users, in the sense that the marketing puff spoke
>to NTLWorld users - like "To all NTL World users: EXCLUSIVE OFFER!".
>
>It's not beyond the bounds of possibility, to my mind, that NTL have an
>"arrangement" with some murketer or other. Based on my experience, I'd
>be inclined to trust them about as far as I could throw their
>head-office building.

This has definitely happened at some point. I signed up to NTLworld as a
backup dialup. The email address was *never* used but within a week junk
started coming into the inbox. Presumably it's still arriving and
clogging up their servers. I haven't checked for a very long time.

Dave
--
There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary,
and those who don't.

 

[David Derrick]

Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>chopsmcp wrote:
>
>> [cross-posted: hope people feel it's legitimate]
>> Well, after all those outages to upgrade the mailservers, it's back
>> to being as bad as it ever was. Some observations:
>> My ntlworld addy gets 100+ spam messages a day. It's not that hard
>>to
>> cope with; I use spampal & OE's filters and most of it doesn't make
>> it past the server. But here's the point: all the spam I get is
>> To/CC:'d exclusively to ntlworld addresses. A few months ago, I set
>> up a "delete-on-server" rule for anything CCd to ntlworld addies with
>> the same first letter as mine. It rapidly collected about 300 addies.
>>
>I was with NTLWorld. I used to get spams that were specifically
>addressed to NTLWorld users, in the sense that the marketing puff spoke
>to NTLWorld users - like "To all NTL World users: EXCLUSIVE OFFER!".
>
>It's not beyond the bounds of possibility, to my mind, that NTL have an
>"arrangement" with some murketer or other. Based on my experience, I'd
>be inclined to trust them about as far as I could throw their
>head-office building.

This has definitely happened at some point. I signed up to NTLworld as a
backup dialup. The email address was *never* used but within a week junk
started coming into the inbox. Presumably it's still arriving and
clogging up their servers. I haven't checked for a very long time.

Dave
--
There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary,
and those who don't.

 

[David Derrick]

Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>chopsmcp wrote:
>
>> [cross-posted: hope people feel it's legitimate]
>> Well, after all those outages to upgrade the mailservers, it's back
>> to being as bad as it ever was. Some observations:
>> My ntlworld addy gets 100+ spam messages a day. It's not that hard
>>to
>> cope with; I use spampal & OE's filters and most of it doesn't make
>> it past the server. But here's the point: all the spam I get is
>> To/CC:'d exclusively to ntlworld addresses. A few months ago, I set
>> up a "delete-on-server" rule for anything CCd to ntlworld addies with
>> the same first letter as mine. It rapidly collected about 300 addies.
>>
>I was with NTLWorld. I used to get spams that were specifically
>addressed to NTLWorld users, in the sense that the marketing puff spoke
>to NTLWorld users - like "To all NTL World users: EXCLUSIVE OFFER!".
>
>It's not beyond the bounds of possibility, to my mind, that NTL have an
>"arrangement" with some murketer or other. Based on my experience, I'd
>be inclined to trust them about as far as I could throw their
>head-office building.

This has definitely happened at some point. I signed up to NTLworld as a
backup dialup. The email address was *never* used but within a week junk
started coming into the inbox. Presumably it's still arriving and
clogging up their servers. I haven't checked for a very long time.

Dave
--
There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary,
and those who don't.

 

[kat]

David Derrick said

>> It's not beyond the bounds of possibility, to my mind, that NTL have
>> an "arrangement" with some murketer or other. Based on my
>> experience, I'd be inclined to trust them about as far as I could
>> throw their head-office building.
>
> This has definitely happened at some point. I signed up to NTLworld
> as a backup dialup. The email address was *never* used but within a
> week junk started coming into the inbox. Presumably it's still
> arriving and clogging up their servers. I haven't checked for a very
> long time.
>

Funny thing, I never get any spam at all on my never-used primary
address. Or anything else for that matter.


--
kat
>^..^<