ntl quality on lcd tv

[magicalbeef]

ive just bought a 37" lcd tv, and while im impressed with hd pic on xbox and ps3, the ntl cable is very very average. ive been looking around, and if i buy a upscaling dvd recorder with freeview, can i connect this to the ntl to somehow increase the picture quality? thanks in advance

 

[AlanFAT]

nah, the dvd players will upscale only the dvd info normally.

You'd need an av amp with upscaling to get that.
The TV has its own upscaling built in but the more u spend, u guessed it the better it is.

As the old saying goes 'you can;t polish a turd' and the upscaling will help but u aint gona get wonders out of it.

 

[genie99]

dvd player

well i have a 32"lcd tv with virgin media tv and a samsung (DVD_HR735) dvd player/160gb hd recorder with hdmi output the cable box is connected to the tv with a scart and same to the dvd player but connected to my tv by hdmi.
the picture on the hdmi channel is alot clearer than the scart channel even see the difference when i look at picture in picture. it does do upscaling but only to 576p
as i have already checked it out just google it

 

[magicalbeef]

the pic isnt really bad, just looks a bit blocky on some channels. so what do you guys recon i get? dvd player or av amp? and can you reccomend any not too expensive ones? ( im a student )

 

[Dazmeister]

the pic isnt really bad, just looks a bit blocky on some channels. so what do you guys recon i get? dvd player or av amp? and can you reccomend any not too expensive ones? ( im a student )

As mentioned before, doubt you will be able to improve much on the image from cable (with any tv), what you see is what you get. Could try a seperate scaler (e.g. dvdo, lumagen) but your talking big bucks (even 2nd hand)

If you look in this area (AV & Home Cinema), there was a thread for a cheap upscaling DVD player which didn't seem too bad for the money.

 

[AlanFAT]

well i have a 32"lcd tv with virgin media tv and a samsung (DVD_HR735) dvd player/160gb hd recorder with hdmi output the cable box is connected to the tv with a scart and same to the dvd player but connected to my tv by hdmi.
the picture on the hdmi channel is alot clearer than the scart channel even see the difference when i look at picture in picture. it does do upscaling but only to 576p
as i have already checked it out just google it

HDMI itself is a better standard for transfering the video data.
Scart can come in many forms, all the same cable but down different formats.

You can have Composite scart (the worst video format for us) and s-video scart (slightly better) and then RGB Scart in all its forms and glory (the best unless you can get it to output Component thru scart like on a dreambox)...

But really, video quality from cables aside, u really cant clean up the blockyness - actually called 'digital artifacts' caused due to a low bitrate compression by the service provider to keep the cost of running the channel down by using less of the available bandwith.

So unless we manage to get everything on a decent bitrate we're gona be stuck, if it happens on the premium channels though, then its worth checking out as I've not really seen it on the sly movies or bbc1 etc.

 

[Mick]

very nice post alanfat

i was reading as well about the differences of the scart leads a year or so ago and ever since i always bought RGB scarts they are great one thing i have to say and i know everyone is cable geeks lol because of the nature but i have SKY (and pay for it lol) the new HD box (via HDMI) is great all channels are excellent quality really fresh.... but the HD channels are just incredible!!!!

Regards
Mickie D

Regards
Mickie D

 

[MFCGMFC]

Mickie is a SKY man

thought u would be cable

Cheers
MFCGAVMFC

 

[AlanFAT]

very nice post alanfat

i was reading as well about the differences of the scart leads a year or so ago and ever since i always bought RGB scarts they are great one thing i have to say and i know everyone is cable geeks lol because of the nature but i have SKY (and pay for it lol) the new HD box (via HDMI) is great all channels are excellent quality really fresh.... but the HD channels are just incredible!!!!

Regards
Mickie D

Cheers!
I'm an ubergeek with that type of stuff, I used to work for a specialist cable company telling ppl what they needed to make things work!

For the record, I'd have sky too if I was allowed to put a dish up on this house!

 

[KhuramG]

Cheers!
I'm an ubergeek with that type of stuff, I used to work for a specialist cable company telling ppl what they needed to make things work!
For the record, I'd have sky too if I was allowed to put a dish up on this house!

Hi Mate,

I think you'll be the best person to answer this question.

I just bought a 10m long HDMI and 10m long RGB Scart cable. My AV equipment will be roughly 6-7M away from the TV, most shops only sell cables upto 3M, max 5M.

I was having difficulty finding a 6.5M long cable so I opted for 10M. I have read somewhere longer cables suffer and signal loss. Apparently the signal becomes weak when it reaches the equipment on the other end?

What are your thoughts?

 

[AlanFAT]

if its a good quality scart cable it should b e fine but most likely it'll be a standard machine-made one.
It might be a little worse but to be honest I'd just try it and see if you can tell.

The HDMI should just work, if it works there's no problems if it doesn't it will not be watchable.

I've seen long hdmi's at 10m fine and rgb scart up to about 35m on decent cable (normal rg179 type coax).