Need Health Advice Please !! Urgent !

[Dazza]

So you want her sectioned then?

 

[PollyPhfiller]

i totally disagree with what youve found with nhs24, ive never had much help, so that i have to disagree

So why you disagree?? DRUGS,Drink,depression,desperation???............am just asking your opinion.

When my wife was ill nhs24 done us as a family a good turn,It turns out my beloved had a major infection.....

 

[digicol]

Erm, the first port of call, why have you not asked to see a different doc at your local surgery?

Get a second opinion or even a thrid opinion if you think the second doc is wrong.

 

[CAROLANN]

So you want her sectioned then?

yes in a way i was hoping she was, but at same time i know shes not nutz, so thats not right either.

 

[CAROLANN]

So why you disagree?? DRUGS,Drink,depression,desperation???............am just asking your opinion.

When my wife was ill nhs24 done us as a family a good turn,It turns out my beloved had a major infection.....

all i can say is your one of the few lucky ones then ma man.

 

[CAROLANN]

Erm, the first port of call, why have you not asked to see a different doc at your local surgery?

Get a second opinion or even a thrid opinion if you think the second doc is wrong.

second, third, lol, i think this is about the 10th, lol, like i say, the docs seem not to care, its like they say, well heres some tablets, go away and die.

(ive seen it happen before, like 8 emergency docs failed to do anything, the person died)

 

[Rs2k_Rider]

im training in a medical field now

Vallium will of been given to calm her and get her in a fit state of mind to start working on her physical state. There is no point feeding her up if she is so stressed/depressed that shes going to fret it off or be sick or force herself to be sick.
It will just cause more harm than good mate, The body is a very big machine basiclly that absorbs things it needs and gets rid of what it does not need in the form of waste.

It seems to me your friend has a number of medical problems, not just depression.
I would say there is a eating disorder and/or personal neglect to deal with, A self discipline issue and possibley confidence issue.

I would say in her best intrest's would be to have her section'd under the mental health act (The Mental Health Act 1983) for her own wellfare and others.
This can be done a few ways, if you look at this site it gives some information mate. Its not a case of she will be stuck in a padded cell, but offered the help she so clearly needs. http://www.thesite.org/healthandwellbeing/mentalhealth/treatments/beingsectioned

your friend will likly hate you for doing this in the short term, but hopefuly come to realise that if you didnt she prob would not be with us when she's better.

You can also go to A+E mate where they will have a doctor/nurse that specilises in mental health issues that can section her also.

Hope that helps.

 

[PollyPhfiller]

all i can say is your one of the few lucky ones then ma man.

Not at all my good man,you know your female mates history and care,so stop banging your head against the system and except the help given. If the helps there take it slasher


You and your mate would be tools to dismiss it................no offence m8


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[digicol]

I would say in her best intrest's would be to have her section'd under the mental health act (The Mental Health Act 1983) for her own wellfare and others.
This can be done a few ways, if you look at this site it gives some information mate. Its not a case of she will be stuck in a padded cell, but offered the help she so clearly needs. http://www.thesite.org/healthandwellbeing/mentalhealth/treatments/beingsectioned

your friend will likly hate you for doing this in the short term, but hopefuly come to realise that if you didnt she prob would not be with us when she's better.

You can also go to A+E mate where they will have a doctor/nurse that specilises in mental health issues that can section her also.

Hope that helps.

That is great advice and spot on, mental health and being sectioned is not a be all and end all.

My own mother was sectioned and she was one of the nicest people you could meet. it took her a few years to pull around, she was in a hospital twice in about a 3 year period (but only a couple of months at a time in hospital), eventually with the care and attention she needed from both us and the mental health service she pulled herself back and she is again my MUM.

The way she became ill was strange, she suddenly just became disillusioned with what was happening around her, that coupled with diabetes and stuff made her really ill. But calling medical help and getting her sectioned made her a normal person again.

 

[CAROLANN]

im training in a medical field now

Vallium will of been given to calm her and get her in a fit state of mind to start working on her physical state. There is no point feeding her up if she is so stressed/depressed that shes going to fret it off or be sick or force herself to be sick.
It will just cause more harm than good mate, The body is a very big machine basiclly that absorbs things it needs and gets rid of what it does not need in the form of waste.

It seems to me your friend has a number of medical problems, not just depression.
I would say there is a eating disorder and/or personal neglect to deal with, A self discipline issue and possibley confidence issue.

I would say in her best intrest's would be to have her section'd under the mental health act (The Mental Health Act 1983) for her own wellfare and others.
This can be done a few ways, if you look at this site it gives some information mate. Its not a case of she will be stuck in a padded cell, but offered the help she so clearly needs. http://www.thesite.org/healthandwellbeing/mentalhealth/treatments/beingsectioned

your friend will likly hate you for doing this in the short term, but hopefuly come to realise that if you didnt she prob would not be with us when she's better.

You can also go to A+E mate where they will have a doctor/nurse that specilises in mental health issues that can section her also.

Hope that helps.

yea well going by what your saying and that article then section seems sensible, but thats so so hard when the person thinks they are fully fit mentally and physically, but they arent which is obvious, its a tricky situation now,, hmmmmmmmmmm , fuerkkkkkkk

 

[Rs2k_Rider]

yea well going by what your saying and that article then section seems sensible, but thats so so hard when the person thinks they are fully fit mentally and physically, but they arent which is obvious, its a tricky situation now,, hmmmmmmmmmm , fuerkkkkkkk

Thats the exact reason people need to be section'd mate, They cant and dont see that there is a problem which is why it spirals out of control.

My mum was also section'd when I was a kid, Shes fine now ... if not a little potty lol.

Do NOT mention to her that your considering this path at all, you will have to be tactful mate. If you explain the situation to the right hospital docs then she will get help. I assume you see a GP ?

GP's as I understand it are doctors that were training to be hospital specialists but didnt make the grade, Some GP's choose to be a GP so are good doctors. But keep in mind some are not.

 

[skybabe]

hmm i think your friend is extremely underweight her bmi is a worry the valium may help her from stressing out over little things but you could also try and get her to drink some of the build up drinks you can get them from ur corner shop its like a meal in a shake packed with calories

often when people are under weight there tired and depreesed often with no energy to do anything eating may not be possible for her at this stage so encourage her to try the shakes i cant think of the name of them off the top of my head but im sure if you nip into a chemist they'll be able to advise you on what shakes are best

 

[CAROLANN]

hmm i think your friend is extremely underweight her bmi is a worry the valium may help her from stressing out over little things but you could also try and get her to drink some of the build up drinks you can get them from ur corner shop its like a meal in a shake packed with calories

often when people are under weight there tired and depreesed often with no energy to do anything eating may not be possible for her at this stage so encourage her to try the shakes i cant think of the name of them off the top of my head but im sure if you nip into a chemist they'll be able to advise you on what shakes are best

yea i was thinking of them things, one of the people that i knew when they were so weak etc the docs put them on them high energy/protein things, they were on prescription, i can remember that, and i think expensive too to buy, but the doc didnt even offer her those, you see , shes the type of person that wont even ask if not offered or maybe "told" more to the point, hmmm, i will need to sit down and think of whats best thing to do here, iam not saying its life and death yet, but you all know as well as me that anything can happen that anytime, thats the scary part , anyways, i appreciate all you guys help and i will let you know the outcome of this, cheers.

 

[skybabe]

The ones from the corner shop are bout a pound a tin give her 3 a day and she'll soon start to gain a little weight then she'll be stronger to deal with the other issues she have problems with

 

[MikeS]

i am afraid doctors cannot do anything if it is down to a mental disorder

i was in a similiar position a few years back

doctors have the power to issue you with medication, they have not got the time to spend hours with a patient to diagnose the problem

the doctor will issue her with medication and book her into the local mental health unit for evaluation, this could take up to 13 weeks, then after the evaluation she will then need to wait get help on a waiting list

either she shows some stability and improvement whilst on the waiting list or she will deteriorate end up in a mental health unit of a hospital whilst under close supervision and be further evaluated

being sectioned could seriously scar her for a long time and leave her further traumatized, the doctor believes that her condition could improve dramatically and that any further trauma could make her worse, patience is the key and the woman can only her make herself better imo, it might sound trivial but if you actually research and look into the mental health problems in this country then i would say about 25% of the population are on anti depressants and others living with mental health problems - the prognosis is very good if the patient is wanting to get better, it just takes time

I suggest she finds the local support groups and talks about her problems or start forking out for private treatment

1 in 4 people in this country suffer from a mental disroder and the NHS is woefully overbooked and has massive waiting lists

I found peace with myself by going to my free support groups and being patient whilst doing exercise, I did not take medication for my problem as it was not the answer merely a short term solution to a bigger problem

everyone is difference and people can live a normal life on medication

she sounds like she has lost the will to live and look after herself and she needs to talk about her anxieties and the problems as to why she is feeling like this


the doctor has given her valium as they have made an initial diagnosis and believe she is that stressed she is unable to function, eat or sleep, valium is an addictive substance and is only to be used in short term measures whilst waiting for a full evaluation, sounds like she is suffering from an anxiety disorder

if you want to talk to me then pm if you want more information

 

[CAROLANN]

i am afraid doctors cannot do anything if it is down to a mental disorder

i was in a similiar position a few years back

doctors have the power to issue you with medication, they have not got the time to spend hours with a patient to diagnose the problem

the doctor will issue her with medication and book her into the local mental health unit for evaluation, this could take up to 13 weeks, then after the evaluation she will then need to wait get help on a waiting list

either she shows some stability and improvement whilst on the waiting list or she will deteriorate end up in a mental health unit of a hospital whilst under close supervision and be further evaluated

being sectioned could seriously scar her for a long time and leave her further traumatized, the doctor believes that her condition could improve dramatically and that any further trauma could make her worse, patience is the key and the woman can only her make herself better imo, it might sound trivial but if you actually research and look into the mental health problems in this country then i would say about 25% of the population are on anti depressants and others living with mental health problems - the prognosis is very good if the patient is wanting to get better, it just takes time

I suggest she finds the local support groups and talks about her problems or start forking out for private treatment

1 in 4 people in this country suffer from a mental disroder and the NHS is woefully overbooked and has massive waiting lists

I found peace with myself by going to my free support groups and being patient whilst doing exercise, I did not take medication for my problem as it was not the answer merely a short term solution to a bigger problem

everyone is difference and people can live a normal life on medication

she sounds like she has lost the will to live and look after herself and she needs to talk about her anxieties and the problems as to why she is feeling like this


the doctor has given her valium as they have made an initial diagnosis and believe she is that stressed she is unable to function, eat or sleep, valium is an addictive substance and is only to be used in short term measures whilst waiting for a full evaluation, sounds like she is suffering from an anxiety disorder

if you want to talk to me then pm if you want more information

That sounds pretty spot on mate.

 

[MikeS]

if u want my advice

get her out of the house

keep her away from busy crowds

take her for walks around the park and try get her mind off what she is obsessing

force her to try and get some sort of life and routine that doesnt involve sitting in her house by herself obsessing over her problems

i found things like feeding the ducks, going to airports and watching planes take off, mountain bike rides, socialising without alcohol, eating healthy etc

 

[Jackel]

The drinks can be prescribed by your doctor, i think they are called build up and come in cartons like milkshake. Also a wide variety of flavours, strawberry, chocolate, vanilla, toffee, banana etc etc. Just ask for them cant do any harm.

 

[Teeny]

the thing is aswell, some of these docs, and i stress some... keep writing out the prescripiton after prescription after prescripiton........without finding the underlying cause of it........these are very addictive and then after being on them for years, it then takes years to come of them, even when the probs are sorted out they then feel they can't live without them. Root of it all is too sort out excatly wot it is she's depressed about and deal with that.

 

[K]

We got our gran sectioned, she wouldnt accept that she had a mental problem.. Very repetative, roaming the streets at night, going to shops to buy the same things every 10 minutes..

The doctor told us she was perfectly fine, he did however advise that she should not stop smoking as shes 80 and fit as a fiddle.. we got a secton oppinion who said there was nothing wrong...

So we got her sectioned under the mental health act through the social services as she attacked a child.. turns out she has MS.. obviously she will never be released from the care shes in now but it was a god send as we was able to diagnose what was wrong with her..