a friend has got a 4010 off a friend of a friend but when fired up the stb had some ch. missing so i said i would have a look it is a rom11 with a bod image on it the problem is i cannot get into it i have a unlimited infinity programmer tried nagra 4.1 no joy tried xncs get error iso tried using back door passwords no luck just cannot get in it i need the ird and bk off it as i don't have these numbers any help i'm stuck coz now i put the card in there are no ch. at all only 1234 :Cheers: