thanks m8. the box was origanly in someones house and the company knocked it off. it wont open in nagra. would tierinfolite open it or is it a case of it being history.If the box is brand new then the card will not be paired and will contain a false boxkey. In this case there is nothing you can do !
If the box has previously been used as a contract box then the card should contain the real boxkey as long as it was disconnected before the cable co un-paired by deleting tiers and writing a fake boxkey.
You can often tell by checking the tiers on the card using a program called TierInfoLite. If it retrieves Tier08 channel enabling tiers then chances are the card has been paired and still contains the necessary information. If there are no Tier08's then the card is likely un-paired !
wrong box key i think.humm after realising that i unlocked the card i just programmed the origionla card and tried it i seemed to get all the free channels but all the others were unsubscribed ? card status was ok in the menu but still only free channels could anyone help pleas as its been a long time since i did any of this