thanks all for the help,i can ftp one of my lines ok and it working,the problem is i can't paste anymore into the cccam file,the cccam.cfg file has a load of info allready in it,i don't have anything like this (###############CCcam.cfg#######),it looks like this = (###linuxsat-support.com###), can i download a new folder for this and put my lines into it,