thanx for the help , i have no option to download mgcamd in the blue panal,this is a clone running gemeni, is there a way to find out what version i have ,i may need to update ...... i,m on bootloader 82 sim 2.01,, also could you reccomend an image thats stable and user friendly i am not interested in cs just want the same stuff as my hummy 5400 opens but also the hd channels........ thanx