N3 hack soon on Zebra 2???
N3 hack soon on Zebra 2???
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It uses Nagravision as well as NDS and Betacrypt.
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Its N3 until the contract runs out but its also using videoguard along side it.
Edit: saki beat me to it
Edit: saki beat me to it
The Nagra contract with Premiere/Sky was orginally for 5 years I think.
It may not be renewed after that.
It may not be renewed after that.
Or may be N3 was already hacked and hackers were probably waiting till Digi TV switched over before we see any type of hack. With christmas not too far away its a good time for any hacks to emerge.
I guess we will have to wait and see what happens on November 10th.
I guess we will have to wait and see what happens on November 10th.
just to add to this
it will support
- Sky Germany sat + cable
- HD+
- UnityMedia (cable)
all ROM142 (N3) so if you buy one at beginning of sale you will be lucky like i was with zebra one/Didem it lasted over 1 year and for EURO 100 it was just ok for me - so maybe this one will last also over 1 year wait+see...
found this elswhere
it will support
- Sky Germany sat + cable
- HD+
- UnityMedia (cable)
all ROM142 (N3) so if you buy one at beginning of sale you will be lucky like i was with zebra one/Didem it lasted over 1 year and for EURO 100 it was just ok for me - so maybe this one will last also over 1 year wait+see...
found this elswhere
a copy and paste from glen_911 abit of intresting reading
Some rumors are bouncing around since weeks.
Today we got confirmation from some guys in the scene that one of this cards is on the newcamd servers with PPV from Sky Deutschland.
There are two options on this:
1. It's the ND$ MOSCing which is running since a year now on some servers but never went public.
2. The Atmel based cards from Nagra have been hacked so far.
This second possibility is the one claimed by Zebra 2 but... there is a but... there are some mismatching technical issues.
Nagra has 2 kind of cards. ST MCU based (ROM 142 etc...) is use for TV Cabo, Polsat etc. Those cards are in place on native Nagra countries. Then there is the ATMEL based cards like Sky Deustchland, Digital + known as ROM 180. Atmel cards are used in tunneled systems like Seca or Irdeto.
Both cards ST and Atmel used an embedded ASIC which cannot be dumped as Flash/ROM + EEProm can be on a normal card. This is a kind of PKI or Crypto Processor and the functions inside cannot be discovered so easily if the hacker cannot reverse the logic inside the silicon.
The consideration on the above senteces are quite simple:
1. The Hacker must have knowledge of the ASIC functions to make sure this system is long term hacked.
2. ST and ATMEL cards have different ASICs for different card distribution. Dish Network and Bell Vu both are based on ST but using different ASICS. This can also be for ATMEL based cards.
3. What is weird is that they claim they have Sky Deutschland and TVCabo which is in contrast with the general concept that hacking ST card is equal to hacking Atmel cards. This sounds very very strange. Both cards cannot have the same software bugs (maybe at Nagra they have dummies but I doubt).
4. Some blogs claims that a software bug has found on both cards (very tough) and those bugs have found from ROM 141 and ROM 181 (never existed in Nagra).
What I take for granted is that someone put PPV in sharing this is quite sure all the rest will be on November 10th when they will release such Zeta 2.
I think about a better name for this card Köol card
For those how have ears to hear will have a nice road to follow
Let's wait and see....
Some rumors are bouncing around since weeks.
Today we got confirmation from some guys in the scene that one of this cards is on the newcamd servers with PPV from Sky Deutschland.
There are two options on this:
1. It's the ND$ MOSCing which is running since a year now on some servers but never went public.
2. The Atmel based cards from Nagra have been hacked so far.
This second possibility is the one claimed by Zebra 2 but... there is a but... there are some mismatching technical issues.
Nagra has 2 kind of cards. ST MCU based (ROM 142 etc...) is use for TV Cabo, Polsat etc. Those cards are in place on native Nagra countries. Then there is the ATMEL based cards like Sky Deustchland, Digital + known as ROM 180. Atmel cards are used in tunneled systems like Seca or Irdeto.
Both cards ST and Atmel used an embedded ASIC which cannot be dumped as Flash/ROM + EEProm can be on a normal card. This is a kind of PKI or Crypto Processor and the functions inside cannot be discovered so easily if the hacker cannot reverse the logic inside the silicon.
The consideration on the above senteces are quite simple:
1. The Hacker must have knowledge of the ASIC functions to make sure this system is long term hacked.
2. ST and ATMEL cards have different ASICs for different card distribution. Dish Network and Bell Vu both are based on ST but using different ASICS. This can also be for ATMEL based cards.
3. What is weird is that they claim they have Sky Deutschland and TVCabo which is in contrast with the general concept that hacking ST card is equal to hacking Atmel cards. This sounds very very strange. Both cards cannot have the same software bugs (maybe at Nagra they have dummies but I doubt).
4. Some blogs claims that a software bug has found on both cards (very tough) and those bugs have found from ROM 141 and ROM 181 (never existed in Nagra).
What I take for granted is that someone put PPV in sharing this is quite sure all the rest will be on November 10th when they will release such Zeta 2.
I think about a better name for this card Köol card
For those how have ears to hear will have a nice road to follow
Let's wait and see....
Found this post elsewhere confirming the card exists.
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Glenn_911
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Found this post elsewhere confirming the card exists.
Let me guess where ?
Be patient M8 about two weeks for sale price will be between €110 <-> €149 this will be a real Christmas > gift < for everyone.
Regards Glenn_911
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UPC in Ireland uses Rom142 on cable ,might be a possibility it will work on that perhaps.
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Read my topic about this. Feel free to leave comment !
https://www.digitalworldz.co.uk/index.php?threads/252879/
https://www.digitalworldz.co.uk/index.php?threads/252879/
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Well it's been almost a year since I've posted and I take it nothing new on N3!
Big thing here in the states is CW servers! You go to your channel of choice, go to the off shore serve,r get the necessary CW(control word), and TEST your desired channel!
That being said, this is what I think!
I think N3 HAS been compromised!
But this time those with the electron microscope(s) ain't givin' up the code to every Tom, DICK and Ninny who cries for FREE TV NOW!
I have a friend who bought into a CW supply site F**HTV!
TEST, EVERY PPV ALL the time! as well as the normal tier and premium movie channels and PPV Sport!
Now you can go the "bought for and retain the CW" route of most public servers, which flies up until you offer ALL of the PPV's.
EVERY PPV, EVERY day can get expensive!
I think they're into the N3 and hiding the results as a CW domain server!
EVEN Tarnovsky said . . .
"So here's a Thompson brand new K7 this is the exact same chip Nagra 3 uses. So I don't understand why it hasn't been broken, except the hackers are lazy maybe. I don't know umm or the Canadians are - are ahh I don't know, maybe the laws changed in Canada."
They're in,they just aren't going to p!$$ away all of the time, money and R&D invested and give to some jerk(s) and have DUSH got to N4!
IMHO Chris
Big thing here in the states is CW servers! You go to your channel of choice, go to the off shore serve,r get the necessary CW(control word), and TEST your desired channel!
That being said, this is what I think!
I think N3 HAS been compromised!
But this time those with the electron microscope(s) ain't givin' up the code to every Tom, DICK and Ninny who cries for FREE TV NOW!
I have a friend who bought into a CW supply site F**HTV!
TEST, EVERY PPV ALL the time! as well as the normal tier and premium movie channels and PPV Sport!
Now you can go the "bought for and retain the CW" route of most public servers, which flies up until you offer ALL of the PPV's.
EVERY PPV, EVERY day can get expensive!
I think they're into the N3 and hiding the results as a CW domain server!
EVEN Tarnovsky said . . .
"So here's a Thompson brand new K7 this is the exact same chip Nagra 3 uses. So I don't understand why it hasn't been broken, except the hackers are lazy maybe. I don't know umm or the Canadians are - are ahh I don't know, maybe the laws changed in Canada."
They're in,they just aren't going to p!$$ away all of the time, money and R&D invested and give to some jerk(s) and have DUSH got to N4!
IMHO Chris
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