It seems as of today he's not the only tax cheat?.....:Laugh:
Sensible Topic George Osbourne tax cheat
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The point was it is a technicality; avoidance or evasion, they are basically the same and HMRC are gradually realising this with such schemes as DOTAS (Disclosure of Tax Avoidance Schemes)and tackling Off Shore Tax Evasion by offering incentives for Self Disclosure and introducing Accelerated Payment Notices.
The technical difference is that avoidance is legal whereas evasion is not.
1. DOTAS accepts that the taxpayer is doing something (probably highly artificial) which could be legal, but alerts HMRC to give them the chance to challenge it if they do not agree. If the challenge is successful, then the scheme becomes evasion and was never legal.
2. The disclosure schemes are for people who have been failing to declare income, which is plainly illegal.
Having said that,the OP referred to a company doing something which is explicitly allowed by the law and encouraged by government over the last 40 years, so is neither avoidance (as defined by DOTAS) nor evasion.
Precisely! I'm glad you're beginning to see the light. :excited:
A strange comment, as I'm not the one who has been confusing avoidance and evasion. It has been some of the other posters who have been suggesting that avoidance, though legal, is unacceptable or immoral.
What are you saying is a typical tory policy?
You obviously don't do irony. :whistle:
Ignore it. He's a clocker who obviously hasn't read the thread. His post doesn't make any sense in the context of the thread.
That wasn't irony.
Yes it was. I should know when I'm being ironic.
(..or was it sarcasm? You've got me thinking now).
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As Nara has suggested, this comment is irrelevant to the thread. I'd be interested to know how you turn ends into meat, though.
kopernikus
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Ok you guys, lighten up and calm down. Bamber is building a reputation as the DW rottwieler in his endeavour to correct any minor errors you may make in your posts. If you visit my post on "transferable personal allowances" you will note that once he has his teeth locked onto your leg, he won't let go easily. Whilst I don't doubt the validity of what he is saying in his posts, he is always determined to have the last word, regardless of what you post.
When you talk about tax, the technicalities can make the difference between jail time and no jail time. I have noticed on your other thread that you have made generalisations regarding tax which I understand that you are trying to say that this applies to the 'man in the street' (maybe somebody working and PAYE with no other income ?) but it often is not that simple.
kopernikus
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If I am accused of generalising then I plead guilty to publishing an official HMRC document, verbatim, in my first post. The idea being to bring it to that attention of DW members who could then determine themselves whether they were eligible or not.
So, why did you then direct so much criticism at me for trying to give DW members some of the information which would help them determine whether they were eligible or not?
kopernikus
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You have a short memory Bamber. No further comment !
OK, your refusal to answer says everything. No further reply needed.
