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SCOTLAND is the most violent place in Britain, according to a top TV investigator.

And the raw brutality of Glasgow's knife culture has stunned seasoned presenter Donal MacIntyre.

MacIntyre has gone undercover with football hooligans, shared a drink with murderers and roughed it with ancient tribes.

But he says the most frightening city he has ever visited is Glasgow.

MacIntyre said last night: "Glasgow is one of the scariest places I have ever worked because the violence is so naked and raw.

"It's only when people come outside of Scotland and particularly Glasgow that they realise the knife culture there is really so predictable and using a knife is second nature to many of the kids."

On the country's blade obsession, he added: "They think nothing of taking a stab wound or inflicting it and they sew themselves up.

"They don't go to hospital. If you talk to anybody in Glasgow or Edinburgh Royal Infirmary, they see twice as many stabbing victims as are reported to the police. So the crime statistics, bad as they are, aren't very accurate."

In 2004, he investigated the now dead Tam "The Licensee" McGraw and his clan, Paul Ferris and Mark Clinton - said to be one of the most dangerous men in Scotland - and the legacy of Arthur "The Godfather" Thompson.

MacIntyre said: "I've spent a lot of time in Glasgow. I did a portrait with Paul Ferris, got some access to his world. His is probably the one film I've done where other gangsters say, 'There's a proper gangster'."

But Scotland's cities are not alone in becoming more violent.

Shootings are increasing across the UK and ASBOs seem in effective in dealing with youth crime.

"The streets are becoming more dangerous," said MacIntyre.

"There have always been gangs but now they are carrying more dangerous weapons and teenage gangs are growing up so quickly. What we would regard as teenage behaviour now starts at about eight.

"The information overload from porn to drugs to rap music and peer pressure is more acute than it ever has been, over a much shorter period at a much younger age.

"Kids are growing up so quickly without tools like common sense, so you have 12 and 13-year-old boys smoking crack cocaine, whereas 15 years ago they might have been smoking cigarettes."

MacIntyre, 41, began his career in newspapers before moving to the BBC in 1993. Since then, he's racked up awards and moved from World In Action to front his own BBC series, MacIntyre Undercover.

The award-winning investigative journalist has now turned his hand to directing and his debut documentary, A Very British Gangster.

The film follows a Manchester crime family over three years - with their co-operation.

His film provides a close-up view of a world embroiled in kidnapping, torture, drugs and murder. But behind the bravado, a poignant world is revealed, where a community struggle with poverty, violence and drugs.

MacIntyre said: "It's an intimate portrait of a Sopranos-style family, albeit with Manchester accents and a bit of a Salford swagger.

"We follow Dominic Noonan, who is a kind of pillar of the community. He runs security firms and is a very dangerous gangster." Dominic heads the Noonan crime dynasty, a second generation family of Irish stock, and legally changed his name to Lattlay Fottfoy, an acronym for the familymotto - Look after those that look after you, f*** off those that f*** off you.

MacIntyre went on: "Noonan is a sort of underworld social worker. He solves crimes and petty disputes between neighbours and there's also a lot of peacekeeping between various factions in the city.

"It's a one-man alternative justice system, similar to the justice system that people talk about with the paramilitaries in Northern Ireland, or in prison.

"There are unofficial trials and investigations and we capture part of this alternative system on camera and reveal Noonan's extraordinary world.

"He's a very dangerous but charismatic character. He's been implicated in many murders and convicted of numerous bank robberies, violence, intimidation, fraud and gun charges and is in prison presently."

Although his work has been driven by a social conscience, MacIntyre's changed circumstances have heightened this.

He married Ameera De La Rosa last year and adopted her daughter, Allegra, from a previous relationship. The couple also have a six-month old daughter, Tiger Willow.

Being a husband and dad has made him more cautious.

He said: "Yes, I have a protective arm around my family and it's no longer the case that it doesn't matter what happens tome because I have responsibilities.

"In many ways, this new film represents a suitable departure for me in terms of family life because I do this as a director, rather than a reporter.

"Going behind the camera gives me an alternative profession for when the heat of investigative journalism and the underworld get too hot."

With so many experiences behind him, you'd think he would have no fears but MacIntyre admits to being scared of something most of us grow out of.

He said: "I've always been scared of the dark. I've always had a light somewhere entering my room. I'm never happier than in ahotel room overlooked by a streetlamp."

A Very British Gangster is released in cinemas on Friday.

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Ach bollocks m8...Scotland aint half as bad as it was years ago m8 and to think in England theres stabbing/murders/slashing etc etc everyday there too....IMO Scotland,ya canne beat it:banana:
The thing is out of all the documentaires he done,there was only 1 or 2 about Scotland/Glasgow the rest were mainly England....And anyway,we dont want yeh here anyway:nerner:
 
its all bollox m8, the scotts are the best ppl ever, sure on rugby tours ive seen a few scuffles, nothing youd get in your own town or any where else.

about time this myth about scotland was put to sleep.
 
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its all bollox m8, the scotts are the best ppl ever, sure on rugby tours ive seen a few scuffles, nothing youd get in your own town or any where else.

about time this myth about scotland was put to sleep.
Well said that man:Cheers:
 
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you stay there m8 and just remember your other post.

I was watching inside of a gun victim, and I was horrified at the damage a single bullet did to someone, im not saying that would soften your hardened criminal, but if in areas where gun crime is high, Mosside, Brixton, Birmingham ect...we show the children at school this is not cool, show them the damage it can do ect...like the tactics of smoking. I think that will stop alot of kids getting involved with guns.
 
there is shootings every day in england i doubt scotland is anywhere near as bad as some of the places we have

PS brixton has turned itself around its now a very nice place and not half what it used to be of course it has problems like most boroughs in london but it should get allot of priase for the way its handled and looks now.

you dont want to goto hackney if anywhere!!!!!, manchester is a shooters playground like liverpool.

the bigger cities have allot of problems!

never been to scotland just know its not my cup of tea lol no offence fellas, but i can sfely say its not as bad as places i england without being there!
 
Donal MacIntyre is a complete knob.

"MacIntyre Investigates, has been variously called "an absolute fiasco" (Daily Mirror), "ludicrous" (The Times) and "lame" (Daily Mail). To The Independent's Thomas Sutcliffe, the 36-year-old Dubliner has "all the journalistic impulses of a soft-shelled crab"; to the Daily Mirror's Jim Shelley, he is simply "the worst undercover reporter in England". That's not bad going.

A senior BBC current affairs figure dismisses Mac-Intyre's investigation into street crime in south London as "utterly predictable and trivial". "It's dreadful self-aggrandisement and a terrible waste of licence-payers' money. Some serious auditing is needed. There are people in other parts of the BBC with better honed skills."

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some parts of Glasgow are really tough areas but It's the same in most big cities. think it gets tough image from the fact that some so called gangsters or hardmen would rather walk up to you and use a knife so you know who did it rather than shoot you with a gun from a speeding car. but if they were really tough why do they not face you in a square go(no weapon fight).

then there is the story that we are mean feckers like when the polis asked the guy why did you stab the victim, and he said I would not waste the price of a bullet on him.

stayed in Glasgow all my life had my share of fights and battles but you just have to get on with things and don't let the bast*rds grind you down think there are a lot more good guys than bad..

just hope it stays that way
 
Donal MacIntyre is always a credible source of factual information :grayno:.
hes right up there with Joseph Goebbels and Jeremy Kyle.

im just wondering why mcron is so anti scottish
 
Glasgow isnt that bad imo - a lot of documentaries nearly only ever concentrate on Glasgow/Edinburgh and say they are about Scotland as a whole.

I dont think there is really a problem with violence in Scotland - but there is one hell of an attitude problem here. One thing that bothers me is that mental period when the pubs and clubs kick out on a friday night. For some reason (drunk) guys think the best way to steal that taxi/jump the queue in the chippy/act a complete knob/bother you for a ciggy is to pretend they are carrying a knife. This basically means that they try to start an argument with you whilsy clutching at an imaginary knife under the back of their shirts.

Now I am not saying England doesnt have its fair share of knobs - it does (and predictably there will be some Scots here who will pick up on this comment). But if you carried on like that in England you probably would get arrested pdq or find yourself on the end of a stabbing/beating.

The only other place I have seen attitude after the night like this is in Cardiff.
 
Glasgow isnt that bad imo - a lot of documentaries nearly only ever concentrate on Glasgow/Edinburgh and say they are about Scotland as a whole.

I dont think there is really a problem with violence in Scotland - but there is one hell of an attitude problem here. One thing that bothers me is that mental period when the pubs and clubs kick out on a friday night. For some reason (drunk) guys think the best way to steal that taxi/jump the queue in the chippy/act a complete knob/bother you for a ciggy is to pretend they are carrying a knife. This basically means that they try to start an argument with you whilsy clutching at an imaginary knife under the back of their shirts.

Now I am not saying England doesnt have its fair share of knobs - it does (and predictably there will be some Scots here who will pick up on this comment). But if you carried on like that in England you probably would get arrested pdq or find yourself on the end of a stabbing/beating.

The only other place I have seen attitude after the night like this is in Cardiff.


cardiff ? we pop down cardiff when we fancy a nice trouble free night,
otherwise we stay in newport.

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its all the same everywhere.....yes some places have more trouble than others but its all about being in the wrong place at the wrong time
 
you stay there m8 and just remember your other post.

I will, don't worry, Birmingham, Mosside, Brixton non of the places where I live so whats your point?

To add, this is mainly knife crime they are talking about, where its an everyday thing, the areas In the gun crime thread where I mentioned if thats you trying to compare areas or IDK.
 
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