MS conducting fresh bans on modified Xbox 360 units from Live
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thommohawk
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might be just a dream, looks like it would have to be a server to connect to because of ping limits connecting to each other like xkia, really needs someone with good knowledge of sever workings and if it could be worked to go through sytem link on the 360.
im not up on this stuff so someone with knowledge would have to say yeah it could work or no it wouldnt work, it was just a thought. costs would need to be know for setting up ect.....
just a thought i had when i was tired, they usually come when im tired, would be nice to know yeah or nay either way though but from someone who knows the crack with this stuff. im sure theres probably a good reason why it cant be done as surely others have tried before.
im not up on this stuff so someone with knowledge would have to say yeah it could work or no it wouldnt work, it was just a thought. costs would need to be know for setting up ect.....
just a thought i had when i was tired, they usually come when im tired, would be nice to know yeah or nay either way though but from someone who knows the crack with this stuff. im sure theres probably a good reason why it cant be done as surely others have tried before.
andyfuk
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Sorry for the late reply.He has several copied games but only went on live with Halo 3.
The firmware is ixtreme if that helps,Andy.
andyfuk: unfortunally its not just going online with games that you get banned for.
there are ppl that NEVER go online with copied games that have been banned also.
but they do play copied games on the console. so seems ms is logging somethin about
the games played.
thommohawk:
your idea unfotunally aint an easy task to accompish.
you would need to setup 2 360s with a game playing on system link first.
and then install a packet sniffer to monitor how they talk.
would need to find the broadcast address the xbox's use.
find out the challange / responce to be able to tell the host xbox that there is a game played and what game etc.
then write a program to emulate this and act as an xbox on a server somewhere but running 1000's of games as such. this aint as size intesntive as you may think. dont need to store the game. just the info that the game uses for system link
and after all that. you would need to set the xbox to recieve a ping of less then 50ms. this is harder as the ping command is inbedded into basic networking tools. so would need to alter the packets on the fly to decrease the repsone time sent. I aint sure on this but I think this would need to be done on the local pc side. maybe ping the pc rather then the server. so would be a lan...
I'm willing to help where I can. but I'm no programer on this side of things. and not finished my ccna quite yet so still a lot to learn on the networking side of things.
there are ppl that NEVER go online with copied games that have been banned also.
but they do play copied games on the console. so seems ms is logging somethin about
the games played.
thommohawk:
your idea unfotunally aint an easy task to accompish.
you would need to setup 2 360s with a game playing on system link first.
and then install a packet sniffer to monitor how they talk.
would need to find the broadcast address the xbox's use.
find out the challange / responce to be able to tell the host xbox that there is a game played and what game etc.
then write a program to emulate this and act as an xbox on a server somewhere but running 1000's of games as such. this aint as size intesntive as you may think. dont need to store the game. just the info that the game uses for system link
and after all that. you would need to set the xbox to recieve a ping of less then 50ms. this is harder as the ping command is inbedded into basic networking tools. so would need to alter the packets on the fly to decrease the repsone time sent. I aint sure on this but I think this would need to be done on the local pc side. maybe ping the pc rather then the server. so would be a lan...
I'm willing to help where I can. but I'm no programer on this side of things. and not finished my ccna quite yet so still a lot to learn on the networking side of things.
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thommohawk
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well you know more than me on it, as far as server and the like ive never looked into or been interested in them, i had the idea and hoped someone with knowledge could jump on board and feed the possibilities, hell we can hack 360,s modems and tv so i was sure there could be a way or someone who could have a good look into it, start off small and if it worked and the legalities where ok try to expand it a little for all the banned consoles, the new idea about changing the serial seems to be a way round the bans but i cant see m$ taking this laying down as there could be duplicate consoles online and m$ would have hell if they banned the wrong console. i,ll let the idea ponder and see if it goes anywhere.
dont get me wrong. I dont mean to shoot the idea down before it starts. just outlineing what would be needed.
by what I've seen from other ppl on this board too. the knowledge and workmanship is available. as well as ppl willing to test and stuff.
and never know. somebody may just read this that has already started on the project.
the prob MS has with the console serial is that they ban you. you change. they ban you change to a already used console. they ban. get a phone call from banned console as you change serial. etc.
either way you just keep changing serials. it would resort them to ban on another static value.
remember all hacking is just a varible of time over skill. lots of ppl with the skill and we (the hackers as such) have far more time then the corporations. and now with the nand chip being read / decoded and other values. I'd put money that there will be a fully working mod chip on the scene in the new year. (if not before)
then what
Iso loaders / riped games / dvd5 support / region free / multi game isos and XBMC..
but this would make it VERY easy for ms to detect so wouldnt be able to use on live for long. same as XBOX 1. but for banned conosles or ppl that just dont care. or even better if your idea gets of the ground. this could be a major step for the 360 underworld.
by what I've seen from other ppl on this board too. the knowledge and workmanship is available. as well as ppl willing to test and stuff.
and never know. somebody may just read this that has already started on the project.
the prob MS has with the console serial is that they ban you. you change. they ban you change to a already used console. they ban. get a phone call from banned console as you change serial. etc.
either way you just keep changing serials. it would resort them to ban on another static value.
remember all hacking is just a varible of time over skill. lots of ppl with the skill and we (the hackers as such) have far more time then the corporations. and now with the nand chip being read / decoded and other values. I'd put money that there will be a fully working mod chip on the scene in the new year. (if not before)
then what
Iso loaders / riped games / dvd5 support / region free / multi game isos and XBMC..
but this would make it VERY easy for ms to detect so wouldnt be able to use on live for long. same as XBOX 1. but for banned conosles or ppl that just dont care. or even better if your idea gets of the ground. this could be a major step for the 360 underworld.
clive58
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Yeah why should we let MS keep control? if we can go it alone we wont need em and we wont be paying them subs for them to keep resetting the goal posts etc to ban us for other reasons in the future.
I say the best option would be get this independent server sorted and f*ck MS out of it.
Clive.
I say the best option would be get this independent server sorted and f*ck MS out of it.
Clive.
Sounds a great idea, there are of course some limitations with system link as apose to live.
I've often thought it would be nice if you could set up a VPN with ya mates and play system link avoiding live. I tried xlink with mixed results.
A smaller local comunity would probably work best.
This disscision probably desrves it's own thread it's lost in here!
I've often thought it would be nice if you could set up a VPN with ya mates and play system link avoiding live. I tried xlink with mixed results.
A smaller local comunity would probably work best.
This disscision probably desrves it's own thread it's lost in here!
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thommohawk
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probably does deserve its own thread, EA are actually on there own servers, live i think isnt even a proper server its like p2p, really could do with someone as i said who knows the ins and outs of the 360 and servers.
english
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tbh m8 that sounds like the beginnings of the hack. i know for sure there's ppl here abouts that can figure that out
now ur just showing off lol j/k
i aint heard of 1 getting banned & 2 b honest ive read loads of threads im hoping they are immune ill run out & get 1
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just thought of somethin else.
ppl that have been banned. HOW did you flash your xbox.
did you use a connectivity kit? or usb bascally not using the 360 as a power device?
or did you use the 360 as a power?
prolly barking up the wrong tree. but if ms can somehow log if the console has been powerd up without a dvd drive attached (but power is going). it could be what they are looking for on live. or at least. what triggers somethin to say they using live.
mine got banned in the first wave. and I used the 360 to power the drive..
I did my next door neighbours. using a connectivity kit. and hes still ok.
ppl that have been banned. HOW did you flash your xbox.
did you use a connectivity kit? or usb bascally not using the 360 as a power device?
or did you use the 360 as a power?
prolly barking up the wrong tree. but if ms can somehow log if the console has been powerd up without a dvd drive attached (but power is going). it could be what they are looking for on live. or at least. what triggers somethin to say they using live.
mine got banned in the first wave. and I used the 360 to power the drive..
I did my next door neighbours. using a connectivity kit. and hes still ok.
used the 360 here & im still ok
This is just a thought but what about where save games are stored? I suppose MS could look at a memory card the same as a harddrive
all my save games are on the harddive transferred from a banned console
to be honest imo its something toi do with games im having a hell of a time checking them all for stealth & thier either not passing the test or no record online to check the games crc's to
e.g Kane.and.Lynch.Dead.Men.PAL.XBOX360-DNL abgx database says its safe yet xdvdmulleter says its not who the hell do we trust ? lol
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mine is fine i have not put it on a disk but i passes.but i had to repair mine with quick par is that bad or nothing to worry about thanks.
english
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it's good m8 it means the file is not corrupted and will burn and work
i get this
Think I have the protocol version as mine is fine
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