MS conducting fresh bans on modified Xbox 360 units from Live

[Purity]

so how do the peeps with xtreme 5.3 and so one still get away without gettin banned ? any ideas lol

They check the games for stealth validity or they create stealth backups themselves or they only play a handful of games that are stealthed

 

[smirnoff_rules]

They check the games for stealth validity or they create stealth backups themselves or they only play a handful of games that are stealthed

so if l play games online that r stealth patched using xtreme and not ixtreme they should ( and l say should ) be safe ..

l say this because l put xtreme on my mates sons xbox and he only plays the disc's l give him and there patched and he pays online even when l said he shouldnt

 

[Colin]

still doing fine with extreme 5.3 played cod4 only newish games i didnt play were halo3 and bioshock

 

[Purity]

There have been some games released recently that pass validity checks in XDVDmeulleter but have not been classed as safe online and have had patches to rectify these issues.

I believe that the banning is down to bad stealth patched games as previously suggested.

 

[martsmall]

There have been some games released recently that pass validity checks in XDVDmulleter but have not been classed as safe online and have had patches to rectify these issues.
I believe that the banning is down to bad stealth patched games as previously suggested.

so if they pass in xdvdmeulleter how else can we tell ????????
ive got lego star wars complete saga iso i checked with xdvdmulleter it passes all stealth tests but then i check game data with crc checker & it says
your game data has a invalid checksum ! perhaps a bad rip ?
then says stealth files are invalid according to database
is this what i need to worry about ?

 

[smirnoff_rules]

There have been some games released recently that pass validity checks in XDVDmeulleter but have not been classed as safe online and have had patches to rectify these issues.
I believe that the banning is down to bad stealth patched games as previously suggested.

ok . so playing stealth patch games on xtreme is the same as playing on ixtreme ? l mean the same level of safety

 

[woodchin]

Would playing retail only on live with ixtreme, and copies only off line be safe or would that still result in a ban?

Woody.

 

[phil1974]

Just checked mine and it looks like its banned,flashed with iextream only played gears of war on live last time about 2 weeks ago.but been playin orange box but not on live and not tuck the update.wonder if they can still ban you if its still hooked up to the modem and you are not on live?
Correction it looks like my live account has expired.The post near the start of the thread saying if you have the z code8015-190d you are banned may not be correct.i have that code but just checked my emails and it says it expired yesterday.

 

[Texbox]

Just checked mine and it looks like its banned,flashed with iextream only played gears of war on live last time about 2 weeks ago.but been playin orange box but not on live and not tuck the update.wonder if they can still ban you if its still hooked up to the modem and you are not on live?
Correction it looks like my live account has expired.The post near the start of the thread saying if you have the z code8015-190d you are banned may not be correct.i have that code but just checked my emails and it says it expired yesterday.

You would still be able to go online with a silver account, if you can your not banned if not your banned, do you have that Z error code?

 

[Texbox]

the firmware modders really need to concentrate on being able to swap serials to get consoles back online, that would fook m$ up. dont say it cant be done, minds and effort should be able to find a way, hell the modders find ways with other consoles.

Agree 100% mate, that would fcuk them up big time, get banned LOL get un-banned the next day.

 

[will65mcmanus]

what i do if i get a game thats not released in uk i pull wireless out of the back before trying it.

 

[phil1974]

just got a screen up sayin this console has been banned for violations of the terms of use blar blar blar.
So my conclusion is they can still ban you if your playin non live but with a modem connected.

 

[andyfuk]

Mine sons has just got banned.He was trying to play Halo 3 and dosent own Call of Duty 4 so it looks like Halo 3 or as others have said a bad copy.
I take it there isnt an answer out there at the moment.

 

[smirnoff_rules]

ok . so playing stealth patch games on xtreme is the same as playing on ixtreme ? l mean the same level of safety

sorry to bump this lads , but the kids on the phone and doing my head in lol .. cheers

 

[Fuas]

Hmm wasnt the first lot of banning about a week or 2 after the 78fk could be flashed via software?
and now 2-3 weeks after benq another load of ppl banned.
makes me wonder if this is MS answer to combating f/ware modders.
if consoles being baned. then it makes those who play xbl all the time. even more reluctant to flash there consoles.
the post earler that mentiond some games passing mulleter stelth checks but still being nuked. was because the ISO size was too small. so dont make it a 100% copy. could be that..
or they found another way to tell. like the C/R timeings or the media codes on the disks.
who knows for now. but sure we will find out in time.
my xbox was banned in the first lot of bannings. and I still check it from time 2 time just to see if ms will unban them..
for all those who have been banned. headover to http:// www. teamxlink. co. uk/ (remove spaces). it CAN be used on 360 stuff. even know the main page says its down. so your online gameing aint totally over.


smirnoff_rules: Yes until we know differnt. playing stealthed patched games on xtream is same level of protection as on iextream atm.

Iextream also striped some of the code out of the f/ware to make it look more like the MS one. like ability to play single layer xbox1 backups (which you could in extream v5.0 but not iextream).

but this dont seem to make much of a differnce given todays happenings.

 

[Purity]

Just logged into Live using Iextreme 1.3 and not banned yet. I have played both Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4 offline. but with ethernet connected to network

 

[Purity]

so if they pass in xdvdmeulleter how else can we tell ????????
ive got lego star wars complete saga iso i checked with xdvdmulleter it passes all stealth tests but then i check game data with crc checker & it says
your game data has a invalid checksum ! perhaps a bad rip ?
then says stealth files are invalid according to database
is this what i need to worry about ?

Exactly! I think there are some games out there that have stealth patch issues, but we think they are safe because xdvdmulleter passes all the tests.

Another example is F.E.A.R. Files 360. This passes all stealth checks on xdvdmulleter, yet the group that released the game posted a patch several hours later:

This PPF patch is for F.E.A.R.Files_USA_XBOX360-PROTOCOL
This patch fixes hundreds of missing sectors in the game partition from offset
0x10CA64800 to 0x10D378000.
There are 2 files in this area:
Game/Worlds/ReleaseXP2/W10_Subway.texCat and Game/Worlds/ReleaseXP/Subway_01a.texCat
Applying this patch will fix these 2 files to keep your game from crashing and also
keep you as safe as possible on XBL.

I hope Lego starwars isn't like that cos I played that online

 

[leedsleeds]

hi i have not been on xbox live for 3 days.i put the earthnet cable in i am not loged into my xbl gamertag i do a test at it all passes z codes all 0.what i want to know if i was going to get band can i get band by doing the test or do i have to sign in to maybe get band thanks.

 

[martsmall]

Exactly! I think there are some games out there that have stealth patch issues, but we think they are safe because xdvdmulleter passes all the tests.
Another example is F.E.A.R. Files 360. This passes all stealth checks on xdvdmulleter, yet the group that released the game posted a patch several hours later:
This PPF patch is for F.E.A.R.Files_USA_XBOX360-PROTOCOL
This patch fixes hundreds of missing sectors in the game partition from offset
0x10CA64800 to 0x10D378000.
There are 2 files in this area:
Game/Worlds/ReleaseXP2/W10_Subway.texCat and Game/Worlds/ReleaseXP/Subway_01a.texCat
Applying this patch will fix these 2 files to keep your game from crashing and also
keep you as safe as possible on XBL.
I hope Lego starwars isn't like that cos I played that online

filename is ptc-swcs,
ive also played online with it so all them games i thought passed cause i got all the ticks could b screwed ?

 

[AK__47]

Update from http://www.xbox-scene.com/

*UPDATE*
It appears that modified fw is NOT being detected, and is instead once again due to 'bad' discs. Keep in mind that the only full proof way to make a 1:1 backup is to do it yourself. iXtreme is as fullproof as it can be, in that it validates everything it possibly can from a firmware point of view, but a game can have slight data change somewhere, most commonly in DMI. Or it can be due to early copies being watermarked so to speak.

This is why you run the risk of being banned on xbox live if you pirate games. Always remember that you run a risk doing such actions.

In regards to game data being properly validated, xdvdmulleter is a tool that has a constantly maintained database to validate backups against retail copies to ensure full stealth. If you have a samsung SH-D16x and would like to contribute to the project to prevent future Live bans, please join #stealth360 on Efnet, IRC.

Source http://www.xbox-scene.com/