US Caused More Deaths in Iraq Than Saddam, Says Anti-War Tribunal

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US Caused More Deaths in Iraq Than Saddam, Says Anti-War Tribunal
ISTANBUL - The World Tribunal on Iraq (WTI), a grouping of NGOs, intellectuals and writers opposed to the war in Iraq, on Friday accused the United States of causing more deaths in Iraq than ousted president Saddam Hussein.

“With two wars and 13 years of criminal sanctions, the United States have been responsible for more deaths in Iraq than Saddam Hussein,” Larry Everest, a journalist, told hundreds of anti-war activists gathered in Istanbul.

Founded in 2003, the WTI is modelled on the 1960s Russell Tribunal, created by the British philosopher Bertrand Russell to denounce the war in Vietnam. It has held about 20 sessions so far in different locations around the world.

A symbolic verdict was to be handed down on Monday by the 14 “jurors of conscience” — including the militant Indian novelist Arundhati Roy, winner of the 1997 Booker Prize for “The God of Small Things.”

The tribunal has for the past two years been gathering what it says is evidence that the war launched in March 2003 to oust Saddam was illegal, and it has also been gathering evidence of exactions allegedly committed by coalition troops.

Its verdict on Monday after its final session is expected to condemn both the United States and Britain.

Roy told the gathering here: “”The evidence collated in this tribunal should … be used by the International Criminal Court — whose jurisdiction the United States does not recognize — to try as war criminals George Bush, Tony Blair, John Howard, Silvio Berlusconi, and all those government officials, army generals, and corporate CEOs who participated in this war and now benefit from it.”

She added that the tribunal was “an act of resistance,” “a defense mounted against one of the most cowardly wars ever fought in history.”

Hans von Sponeck, former director of the UN’s so-called oil-for-food programme for Iraq, told the Istanbul gathering that the humanitarian programme “was totally irrelevant.”

Von Sponeck ran the programme until 2000 when he resigned because he said it failed to meet the humanitarian needs of the Iraqi people.

The oil-for-food programme ran from 1996 to 2003. It allowed Baghdad to sell oil in exchange for humanitarian goods the country lacked due to international sanctions imposed in 1990 after Iraq invaded Kuwait.

Critics said the sanctions led to the deaths of tens of thousands of children and a drastic decline in living standards for almost the entire Iraqi population.

The Iraqi government under Saddam swindled millions of dollars from the 64-billion-dollar scheme, and the scandal has become a huge embarrassment for the United Nations.

“The UN handling of Iraq will be listed as a massive failure,” von Sponeck said. “We didn’t speak out despite knowing what the economic sanctions had created as a human disaster.”

He singled out the United States and British governments for allegedly blocking projects that would, he said, have allowed more people to survive.

Some 200 non-governmental organsiations — including the environmentalist group Greenpeace, the anti-globalization ATTAC and Vietnam Veterans Against the War — as well as a number of prominent intellectuals such as US linguist Noam Chomsky and Egyptian sociologist Samir Amin are involved in the WTI.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/09/19/3938/
 
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No shit.............for saddam to have killed this many people, he would have had to kill 1 person in 10 and bought a lot more chemical weapons from the US, UK and France.
 
Think your find its them killing each other, but i will not be losing any sleep over it
 
not only the iraqis but our soldiers too who are fighting a fake war on terrorism! bring our troops back, tell the americans to f*** off! if only! It appears that Gordon brown is bushes Bitch! even bigger than tony blair!

watch more innocent people die in Iran, more of our soldiers die in Iran! for what exactly?
 
Because Iran is trying to gain the nuclear bomb, they also have strong links with terrorist organisations

We have more to fear from the Iranians than we ever did from Iraq, Iran does or very shortly will have WMD's.
 
they invaded Iraq for oil! simple as. there was no WMD's from the start.

now that they've invaded Iraq and sucking the oil out of it, they've now discovered Irans got even more oil! so that makes them obvious targets! and the oil in Iraqs not going to last forever!

we can go on about this all day looong! the people have that got WMDs are the US, UK and other big developed european countries!

its all about power, money and oil!
 
mate....am I missing something where in the bbc.co.uk articles does it say Iran is making nuclear weapons or WMD......it says they are enriching uranium for dometic use......they have a population of over 70 million, why cant these people have energy in there home, just like you and me.

In a hot country, everyone needs air conditioning the electrical load is greater than if your in the cooler parts of Europe.

Even after all that..........why can some countries have WMD and not other........a recent thread in this forum pointed out that the UK has enough processed matter to make 7500 nuclear weapons - who should then be scared??? UK or Iran.

In article h**p://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4617398.stm


QUOTE 1:"The apparent existence of a heavy water facility near the town of Arak first emerged with the publication of satellite images by the US-based Institute for Science and International Security in December 2002."


h**p://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4381436.stm

Now Iran has the capability to launch its own satellite - what do you think the US would do if the Iranian's kept there satellite in geo-sync orbit on the US and mapped all the strategic/military sites in the US.

The US government would blow up the Iran satellite and retaliate. So why is the US government free to have there satellites over Iran mapping there sites??????


QUOTE 2:"Iran's nuclear programme began in 1974 with plans to build a nuclear power station at Bushehr with German assistance."

Why isnt the US threatening Germany with War, from this article it is clear than the German government exported nuclear technology and experise to Iran in the first place.
 
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They say so themselves!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6974903.stm

There has been no independent verification of Iran's claim.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4617398.stm

In 2003, a leaked International Atomic Energy Agency report said that weapons-grade uranium had been found in samples taken from the site, although Iran blamed contaminated imported equipment, and an independent report later confirmed this

its all US pictures and statistics they always build a false case! make something more than it appears!
 
they invaded Iraq for oil! simple as. there was no WMD's from the start.

now that they've invaded Iraq and sucking the oil out of it, they've now discovered Irans got even more oil! so that makes them obvious targets! and the oil in Iraqs not going to last forever!

we can go on about this all day looong! the people have that got WMDs are the US, UK and other big developed european countries!

its all about power, money and oil!

Oil will never finish in Iraq, the land is so fertile that oil can be reproduced again. Also due to constant wars in Iraq most areas haven't been explored for oil and if explored they would have the worlds largest oil reserves competing directly with Saudi Arabia.
 
mate...........oil needs thousands of year to replenish from vegetation............like most sales....when its gone it gone
 
Because Iran is trying to gain the nuclear bomb, they also have strong links with terrorist organisations

We have more to fear from the Iranians than we ever did from Iraq, Iran does or very shortly will have WMD's.

i'm getting sick of this shit, prove both.

and btw, america is supporting MEK terrorists in iran, and britain is shielding the head of the chechnien terrorists that probably trashed that russian school.

british FRU assholes are setting bombs in street markets in iraq too.
 
i'm getting sick of this shit, prove both.

and btw, america is supporting MEK terrorists in iran, and britain is shielding the head of the chechnien terrorists that probably trashed that russian school.

british FRU assholes are setting bombs in street markets in iraq too.

Ok mask m8, how about you proving some of these daft fantasies that you've been spouting throughout this thread. It should prove interesting since you seem to have lost all touch with reality.
 
i think what mask means is UK and US operatives are working in Iran in an effort to frame Iran!

a good example of this 9/11!

government orchestrated! why? ask yourself if 9/11 didnt happen what excuse would they have had to bomb the shit out of afghanistan?

then using afghanistan as a platform to destroy Iraq! now its Irans turn? then syria? then who else? its all for US gains!

If you look through the 'real' history you will find there is a link between all these wars! they are preplanned! fake puppet governments are put it place its all strategic moves!

oh yeh, how many of you believe in GHOSTS? for all of you who believe in Al-Qaeda believe in a GHOST! it doesnt exist its the weapon/tool the US & UK use to justify everything they do!

if you want to invade a country without raising eyebrow what do you do? in order to gain public support and justify war you need a reason, weather its real or not it doesnt matter!

all presidents are prime ministers are puppets! they represent and work for the people behind the scenes!

back to Iraq! its just 1 peice of the puzzle!
 
no, i mean it like i said it.

it's that stupid old "our enemy's enemy is our friend" proxy war crap.
http://www.mathaba.net/data/sis/mi6-terrorism.html

nato suported the kurds because they hated sadam husain even though the same assholes kept bombing our aly turkey - and still are.

the MEK are an iranian group who hate the government and keep blowing stuff like shopping centers & pipelines up - so america supports them with money because they think atacking iran is good.
http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=333

britain has always hated russia and i dont need to tell you how many wanted people from russia are holed up here.

as for the FRU assholes,
memorise these sorry faces,
they got caught near basra dressed as arabs & driving a car packed with explosives.
these foto's are from the iraqi police station in basra - you probably saw it being trashed on the news to get these monsters out.

btw, who are the iranians supposed to be sponsering then?
 
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